JHU - 18% white in class of 2027

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Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.


Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

Agree. And if they are adhering to the new SC ruling, there is absolutely no way the next incoming class can be only 18-19% white. It is racial discrimination.

This isn't the incoming class because the admissions cycle is not over. The numbers represent the class of 2027 that was admitted pre-Supreme Court decision. You have to wait until Fall 2024 to determine what they are doing.

Oops, responded to the wrong person!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.


Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

Agree. And if they are adhering to the new SC ruling, there is absolutely no way the next incoming class can be only 18-19% white. It is racial discrimination.

This isn't the incoming class because the admissions cycle is not over. The numbers represent the class of 2027 that was admitted pre-Supreme Court decision. You have to wait until Fall 2024 to determine what they are doing.

Yes. PP said if it hs still 18% white for next year’s incoming class (current seniors starting next Fall- post-ruling) then they did not adhere to the law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:20% Native American doesn’t seem right.

Think this stems from the generally poor Healthcare among indigenous people and on reservations. Big mission for Hopkins.

This says 2% Native American, not 20%

https://apply.jhu.edu/fast-facts/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.

Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

Actually you are wrong. That 75% you quoted includes white Hispanics.

The White, non-Hispanic population of the US is 58.9%…and this number includes people of middle eastern and North African origin. This means the actual white population is probably closer to 55%.

And that 55% is the entire population. I am having trouble putting my fingers on the number now but the percentage of white, non-Hispanic in the 18-24 year old range is lower then the percentage of the total population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The largest demographic group at JHU is Asian... why are is OP emphasizing hispanic and rather than what is actually the largest demographic group?

Because Asians were admitted despite the affirmative action which only ended recently and discrimination in admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.

Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

Actually you are wrong. That 75% you quoted includes white Hispanics.

The White, non-Hispanic population of the US is 58.9%…and this number includes people of middle eastern and North African origin. This means the actual white population is probably closer to 55%.

And that 55% is the entire population. I am having trouble putting my fingers on the number now but the percentage of white, non-Hispanic in the 18-24 year old range is lower then the percentage of the total population.

US Census: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045223

Percentage of white alone, not Hispanic or Latino is 58.9%

Percentage of white alone (which includes white Hispanic people) is 75.5%

I am always confused by the need to separate white Hispanics from other whites in the US. How are white Hispanics different from Italian Amerians or Irish Americans or Polish Americans? So stupid...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.

Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

Agree. And if they are adhering to the new SC ruling, there is absolutely no way the next incoming class can be only 18-19% white. It is racial discrimination.

Be careful what you wish for. Hopkins could very easily be 70% Asian next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The largest demographic group at JHU is Asian... why are is OP emphasizing hispanic and rather than what is actually the largest demographic group?

Because Asians were admitted despite the affirmative action which only ended recently and discrimination in admissions.

Bold statement.

Hispanic students are being admitted to Hopkins at a rate comparable to their percentage of the population. About 19% of the US population is Hispanic. About 20% of JHU's class is Hispanic. It's about 260-262 Hispanic students. Are you seriously implying that there aren't 261-262 qualified Hispanic kids in the JHU applicant pool?

Getouttahere with all that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The largest demographic group at JHU is Asian... why are is OP emphasizing hispanic and rather than what is actually the largest demographic group?

Because Asians were admitted despite the affirmative action which only ended recently and discrimination in admissions.

Bold statement.

Hispanic students are being admitted to Hopkins at a rate comparable to their percentage of the population. About 19% of the US population is Hispanic. About 20% of JHU's class is Hispanic. It's about 260-262 Hispanic students. Are you seriously implying that there aren't 261-262 qualified Hispanic kids in the JHU applicant pool?

Getouttahere with all that.

That's a strong evidence of racism in the admission process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.

Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

This right here. At the end of the day the presumption is Black/Brown isn't good enough. That's always been the notion that makes you all feel better. The idea that we may be better in various instances is unfathomable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.

Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

Agree. And if they are adhering to the new SC ruling, there is absolutely no way the next incoming class can be only 18-19% white. It is racial discrimination.

Be careful what you wish for. Hopkins could very easily be 70% Asian next year.

I know you Asians love to think whites aren’t as bright. Just untrue. Which big tech innovators are Asian? Gates or Jobs or Bezos or Musk? Which race invented Crisp-r technology? Who discovered DNA? The polio vaccine? Covid vaccine?

Personally, I’m glad you aren’t getting screwed at Hopkins like you do at most universities—but there’s no need to put down another race. My white kids are top in their classes in high school—and scored 36 on ACT; 5s on all APs (yes the Calc and science ones too).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Washington Adventist has 9 White Male students, not even enough for a hockey team!

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your stats are off.
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/washington-adventist-university/student-life/diversity/#ethnic_diversity.

College Factual says Washington Adventist has 29 white undergrads and is 31% male. My stats are not off because 31% of 29 is 9.

Washington Adventist also has one white graduate student. Even if he plays goalie, that is still not enough for a hockey team.

[Anonymous]

Forget the percentages, why would you want to go to school in Baltimore?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.

Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

This right here. At the end of the day the presumption is Black/Brown isn't good enough. That's always been the notion that makes you all feel better. The idea that we may be better in various instances is unfathomable.

My Hispanic son is at the top of his class in high school. He could easily attend and excel at JHU but won’t consider a school in Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what you want is a university without all the holistic admissions nonsense to cover up admissions corruption, Hopkins is the place. Grades, Standardized tests, Teacher recommendations. Daddy does not need to set up an NGO.

This.

1000 percent. Compared to its peer schools, Hopkins is much more about academic achievement when it comes to admissions. Period.

So, sure there are a few recruited athletes etc etc. But, nothing like other schools. This may not work for every student, like those who want school spirit to be built around the football team, for instance. But it does make admission more straightforward.

Which is all very well and good in principal.

But 18 percent white is ridiculous. 75 percent of the US is white.

Show me the numbers that Black and Hispanic students are doing so much better than the white students applying to places like Hopkins.

I'll wait.

I'm all for meritocracy. Academic achievement should be the metric. But this is just DEI racism.

Agree. And if they are adhering to the new SC ruling, there is absolutely no way the next incoming class can be only 18-19% white. It is racial discrimination.

Be careful what you wish for. Hopkins could very easily be 70% Asian next year.

I know you Asians love to think whites aren’t as bright. Just untrue. Which big tech innovators are Asian? Gates or Jobs or Bezos or Musk? Which race invented Crisp-r technology? Who discovered DNA? The polio vaccine? Covid vaccine?

Personally, I’m glad you aren’t getting screwed at Hopkins like you do at most universities—but there’s no need to put down another race. My white kids are top in their classes in high school—and scored 36 on ACT; 5s on all APs (yes the Calc and science ones too).

This exactly!