Do you think American passengers would have evacuated as timely/orderly as JAL 516 passengers during fire emergency?

[Anonymous]

Third hand - but my friend just told me if an interview with an American who was on the flight and lives in Japan. He said it’s the first time he’d ever heard a Japanese person yell. When people/someone tried to grab their luggage they were yelled at to leave it. The social pressure to follow the exact directions of the crew was probably extreme in this situation. I think Americans would’ve done the same if the crew acted this way too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think so, but I happened to live in Hoboken when that plane landed in the Hudson, and I was just on a plane with a medical emergency (they said is there a doctor on board mid flight) and before landing they came on the announcement and said an ambulance is meeting us at the gate - everyone stay seated while the person with the medical emergency gets off first. And I seriously in my head thought, I wonder if everyone will stay seated - but literally every person on the flight stayed seated and silent while the person with the issue got off.

So now I have more faith!

Did anyone mumble about checking for an actual medical emergency?

It was a red eye flight and we were all woken up an hour in, with lights turned on and an announcement asking for a doctor on board. I guess we were all glad we did not have to divert. I didn't hear any mumbling or grumbling.

[Anonymous]

They should make it a crime to retrieve your carryon if there’s an evacuation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not an exact parallel - but the recent Portland plane incident shows what Americans would do in a plane emergency: remain calm, follow directions, help each other, and give hugs at the appropriate time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2024/01/08/boeing-alaska-airlines-flight-calm-passengers/

I was thinking the same thing. I was actually looking for this post to make a comparison with the Alaskan Airlines flight.

You can’t compare them. The Alaskan folks didn’t have to evacuate.

This is the negative thought that you had to post this morning?

I'm sorry that you perceive your countrymen to be so awful, despite any and all evidence to the contrary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Third hand - but my friend just told me if an interview with an American who was on the flight and lives in Japan. He said it’s the first time he’d ever heard a Japanese person yell. When people/someone tried to grab their luggage they were yelled at to leave it. The social pressure to follow the exact directions of the crew was probably extreme in this situation. I think Americans would’ve done the same if the crew acted this way too.

What if the luggage had extremely valuable government TPS reports?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should make it a crime to retrieve your carryon if there’s an evacuation.

The hall monitors from DCUM would be busy filming people getting their carryons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should make it a crime to retrieve your carryon if there’s an evacuation.

The hall monitors from DCUM would be busy filming people getting their carryons.

Yep. Karen, Amy, Barb, Karan and Karren would all be standing there shoulder to shoulder, blocking the aisles, phones in hand, shooting vertical video of anyone who tried to grab anything as they left the plane. Especially men. Because that’s how the patriarchy is perpetuated, don’tcha know! They’d keep everyone on the plane until most died of smoke inhalation. Then they’d flee to the ext door. Later, their H’s (who are all BigLaw) will sue the airline out of existence. Then they’d create a memorial foundation, and have events where they could serve pallets of boxed NZ Chardonnay, and complain about Trump and Israel.

[Anonymous]

The Japanese culture is one that is super into (more than any I can think of globally) following rules and traditions. It's ingrained into their culture. They do high-end everything! They just are a society that is very orderly and they have a certain way of being that's about the greater good.

During the World Cup, Japanese fans stayed after the game to CLEAN UP! I mean, who does that after a sports outing? As in they helped clean up the stadium. Not just their mess but the mess around them.

I am 10000% any other flight would have not gone as well as the JAL flight in this situation. It's not in them to be selfish on the mass scale that other cultures are - not suggesting everyone is selfish or not but as a society, more will follow direction than those who don't unlike in the US as evidenced by daily life even at a traffic stop.

[Anonymous]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/27/sports/soccer/japan-fans-clean-up-world-cup.html

I mean - seriously - The Japanese are an amazing culture. Have you been to Tokyo? I really encourage it. Even though I'm Chinese and feel like China is the ultimate when it comes to history and as a huge country, full of interesting places to see, I will tell you that hands down, Tokyo is one of the most fun, interesting, awesome, great, my favorite cities in the world. It is beautiful, easy to navigate, has like every animal cafe you can imagine along with 11 cat islands!!!!! Nice people is an understatement to describe the Japanese as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/27/sports/soccer/japan-fans-clean-up-world-cup.html

I mean - seriously - The Japanese are an amazing culture. Have you been to Tokyo? I really encourage it. Even though I'm Chinese and feel like China is the ultimate when it comes to history and as a huge country, full of interesting places to see, I will tell you that hands down, Tokyo is one of the most fun, interesting, awesome, great, my favorite cities in the world. It is beautiful, easy to navigate, has like every animal cafe you can imagine along with 11 cat islands!!!!! Nice people is an understatement to describe the Japanese as a whole.

Read up on Nanking about 90 years ago, and get back to us on the bolded part. We’re only 3-4 generations past that. Let’s give it a few hundred more years before we let bygones be bygones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This evacuation was amazing. But there’s a potential downsize to being too compliant. I think back to the ship that went down with the Korean high school students — maybe 10 years ago. The captain said wait in your cabins. The kids who died were mostly the ones who complied. The ones who went on deck and or grabbed life jackets were the ones who survived the most. Planes versus ships are different. Just saying you have to give some credit to common sense in any situation. In this jet crash with jet fuel burning, common sense says moving out in an orderly manner and NOt grabbing your carry-ins is the quickest way out.

Yeah, I had a similar line of thinking. I believe the nyt article on the plane fire said it took 18 minutes from touchdown for the crew to evacuate everyone. Honestly, it kind of sounds like they were just lucky. In that scenario I would seriously be considering my options regardless of the instructions. Honestly I think back to 9/11 when I think in one of the towers people were instructed to shelter in place when they should have been evacuating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Watch this only if you don't have high blood pressure. You can see people going down the evacuation slides with carry-ons.

Amazing that they're not running as fast as they can away from the plane!! Once they get down the slide, they seem to slow down. I'd be running so fast!!!

Me too!

[Anonymous]

Americans are the worst people on the planet. So self-centered, ignorant, and selfish!

‘MURICA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not an exact parallel - but the recent Portland plane incident shows what Americans would do in a plane emergency: remain calm, follow directions, help each other, and give hugs at the appropriate time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2024/01/08/boeing-alaska-airlines-flight-calm-passengers/

I was thinking the same thing. I was actually looking for this post to make a comparison with the Alaskan Airlines flight.

You can’t compare them. The Alaskan folks didn’t have to evacuate.

This is the negative thought that you had to post this morning?

I'm sorry that you perceive your countrymen to be so awful, despite any and all evidence to the contrary.

I’m not un-American and this isn’t negative, but I do this for a living and can tell you these two situations aren’t even remotely comparable.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely they would! I was on a Jet Blue flight that suddenly took evasive maneuvers while descending into DCA. Neither the pilot nor the crew told us anything. Everyone was dead silent except for some people vomiting and one kid asking his mother why she was scared. Pilot was so shook up he overshot the gate and ground crew had to push the plane back a few feet. We all got off the plane in an orderly fashion with the flight attendants too speechless for even a thank you.

A few days later I saw an article that said there were some near miss mid-air collisions at DCA.