Charles Allen faces recall effort

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What about Ward 3? Is there a Frumin recall?

Feel free to take up the significant work of trying to mount one.

TBH, a Frumin recall effort probably has a better chance of success than an Allen recall effort. Just about everyone in Ward 3 thinks they were sold a bill of goods with him and want him out. He really does seem incompetent. Allen at least has some conviction behind his hilariously bad viewpoints. Frumin just seems like a bumbler.

You may well be right about Frumin. We need a strong candidate and a less fragmented field when he is up again. I don't think he will be recalled.

We need Silverman not to put her thumb on the scales.

Hopefully Silverman is done. Between her questionably legal “poll” which crucially helped Frumin and her support of a plan that gerrymandered a number of Ward 3 ANC seats and split neighborhoods, Silverman really screwed up things for us in the last DC election.

If Racine runs for mayor, I've been wondering if she will run again. Hope not, but DC does have a history with "resurrection" stories.

Racine has no business running for mayor. He’s the reason for the crime in DC, because he didn’t go after the juveniles.

Well that's kind of a winning platform in DC. Remember, there's nowhere to go after mayor in DC since there's no governor or serious seat in Congress so you're not going to get serious candidates.

These are excuses. Tony Williams and Adrian Fenty were both "serious candidates" who did a lot of good for this city during their mayoral terms. And while neither went on to higher office, they've both done pretty well in the private sector (this is the primary exit strategy for DC mayors -- go into political consulting and get paid bank to lobby on behalf of groups and issues to your former colleagues in government).

Not everyone wants to be governor or senator, and in some ways it's GOOD that DC mayor is as high as you can go because it means we should get candidates who view DC as the goal, not a stepping stone.

Since Fenty, we've really been struggling with an identity crisis in DC though. He got pushed out in favor of Gray in large part because "old school" DC (read: black DC) felt he was too interested in catering to businesses and white people. It's true that investment and development during his term was really heavily concentrated in NW, though we did also see investment in H Street and Navy Yard. But little or nothing across the river and that was his downfall. But then Gray was a bust -- scandal ridden and accomplished so little. Just a wasted administration.

I think some voters (myself among them) thought Bowser might be a return to a more growth and development minded mayoral office. Ugh, such a disappointment. Bowser only cares about Bowser. She's inept at driving investment. Her main strategy is to announce new projects, but her name and face on them, and then make no effort to maintain or repair anything so everything looks freaking derelict. I also suspect her office is absolutely riddled with grift. Her staff is a mess and she often has absolute incompetents in important roles. That this woman has been re-elected twice is a huge embarrassment.

Yet I couldn't bring myself to vote for White. He suggested closing schools for Covid in the spring of 2022. Absolutely not.

There's no reason we can't have good people in the mayor's office. We need to find them and support them. It sucks how thin the talent is right now. I have high hopes for Christina Henderson but can't think of a single other local politician I am enthusiastic about.

How about the councilmember from Georgetown? She was condemning crime before "the un-ignorable wave"...shows she actually noticed the indicators and was ahead , not behind, the problem

The same person who passed a crime bill in the summer that has led to a further increase in crime?

I don't think so..she has a recent bill addressing crime - I don't think she was behind the nonsensical one this summer

Both the emergency bill and the new bill were sponsored by Brooke Pinto, the CM from Georgetown who succeeded Allen as chair of the Safety Committee. Previously she worked for Racine. The Council voted to extend the provisions of the Emergency bill, while it was not as far reaching as may have been ideal, not sure anyone is claiming it was "nonsensical."

Crime is driven at this point not by lack of laws but by lack of prosecution by AG and USAO and by lax judges who never gave up their former ideology from public defender days.

So we agree then, that the decision to scapegoat and blame one CM for all of the crime issues in the city is a silly one and the recall is a waste of time and money.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with DC politics is that it is a one party game.

We need strong, conservative voices leading this city, tackling the crime problems with evidence based solutions that prioritize strong, consistent punishment, rather then the current far-left council that has succumbed to the far left insanity that prioritizes criminals over victims.

We need compassionate centrist-conservatives. Paging Mitt Romney. He’ll be available next year.

No, we need a tough on crime democrat.

Basically you need the Blue Dog type Democrats to form a separate party, and hope no court objects to the obvious shenanigans.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with DC politics is that it is a one party game.

We need strong, conservative voices leading this city, tackling the crime problems with evidence based solutions that prioritize strong, consistent punishment, rather then the current far-left council that has succumbed to the far left insanity that prioritizes criminals over victims.

We need compassionate centrist-conservatives. Paging Mitt Romney. He’ll be available next year.

No, we need a tough on crime democrat.

Basically you need the Blue Dog type Democrats to form a separate party, and hope no court objects to the obvious shenanigans.

No need to run as a separate party.

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I'll be watching his vote on this nomination today.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be watching his vote on this nomination today.

I'm sure he's very concerned about you

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be watching his vote on this nomination today.

I'm sure he's very concerned about you

This vote is a litmus test for all council members. I’m glad people are paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be watching his vote on this nomination today.

I'm sure he's very concerned about you

This vote is a litmus test for all council members. I’m glad people are paying attention.

Mendo tabled the nomination, which means it's very likely dead.

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Anonymous wrote:And for the poster who asked if the article was DC Justice Lab propaganda, read the above.

Patrice Sulton's views are WELL outside the mainstream https://decarcerationnation.com/126-patrice-sulton-dc-justice-lab/ but have captured the Council to the extent that they largely drafted the defeated bill and the talking points for it.

I like how she explicitly says that when she helped write the criminal code revision they lowered sentences and that she’s proud of that. Yet we still have people here saying that it’s a right-wing conspiracy that the criminal code revision was soft on crime.

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Anyone know if they have started collecting signatures?

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What about Ward 3? Is there a Frumin recall?

Feel free to take up the significant work of trying to mount one.

TBH, a Frumin recall effort probably has a better chance of success than an Allen recall effort. Just about everyone in Ward 3 thinks they were sold a bill of goods with him and want him out. He really does seem incompetent. Allen at least has some conviction behind his hilariously bad viewpoints. Frumin just seems like a bumbler.

You may well be right about Frumin. We need a strong candidate and a less fragmented field when he is up again. I don't think he will be recalled.

We need Silverman not to put her thumb on the scales.

Hopefully Silverman is done. Between her questionably legal “poll” which crucially helped Frumin and her support of a plan that gerrymandered a number of Ward 3 ANC seats and split neighborhoods, Silverman really screwed up things for us in the last DC election.

If Racine runs for mayor, I've been wondering if she will run again. Hope not, but DC does have a history with "resurrection" stories.

Racine has no business running for mayor. He’s the reason for the crime in DC, because he didn’t go after the juveniles.

Well that's kind of a winning platform in DC. Remember, there's nowhere to go after mayor in DC since there's no governor or serious seat in Congress so you're not going to get serious candidates.

These are excuses. Tony Williams and Adrian Fenty were both "serious candidates" who did a lot of good for this city during their mayoral terms. And while neither went on to higher office, they've both done pretty well in the private sector (this is the primary exit strategy for DC mayors -- go into political consulting and get paid bank to lobby on behalf of groups and issues to your former colleagues in government).

Not everyone wants to be governor or senator, and in some ways it's GOOD that DC mayor is as high as you can go because it means we should get candidates who view DC as the goal, not a stepping stone.

Since Fenty, we've really been struggling with an identity crisis in DC though. He got pushed out in favor of Gray in large part because "old school" DC (read: black DC) felt he was too interested in catering to businesses and white people. It's true that investment and development during his term was really heavily concentrated in NW, though we did also see investment in H Street and Navy Yard. But little or nothing across the river and that was his downfall. But then Gray was a bust -- scandal ridden and accomplished so little. Just a wasted administration.

I think some voters (myself among them) thought Bowser might be a return to a more growth and development minded mayoral office. Ugh, such a disappointment. Bowser only cares about Bowser. She's inept at driving investment. Her main strategy is to announce new projects, but her name and face on them, and then make no effort to maintain or repair anything so everything looks freaking derelict. I also suspect her office is absolutely riddled with grift. Her staff is a mess and she often has absolute incompetents in important roles. That this woman has been re-elected twice is a huge embarrassment.

Yet I couldn't bring myself to vote for White. He suggested closing schools for Covid in the spring of 2022. Absolutely not.

There's no reason we can't have good people in the mayor's office. We need to find them and support them. It sucks how thin the talent is right now. I have high hopes for Christina Henderson but can't think of a single other local politician I am enthusiastic about.

How about the councilmember from Georgetown? She was condemning crime before "the un-ignorable wave"...shows she actually noticed the indicators and was ahead , not behind, the problem

The same person who passed a crime bill in the summer that has led to a further increase in crime?

I don't think so..she has a recent bill addressing crime - I don't think she was behind the nonsensical one this summer

Both her bills. The Council voted to extend the temporary emergency provisions from the June bill. Not sure why you think it was "nonsensical?" It was limited and temporary by nature. And following on some prior action by Council on crime, crafted to both get votes and be an improvement.

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https://www.mwcog.org/newsroom/2024/01/10/cog-board-elects-charles-allen-as-chair-advocates-for-action-on-metros-budget-cog-board-legislative-priorities-metro-initiatives/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll be watching his vote on this nomination today.

I'm sure he's very concerned about you

This vote is a litmus test for all council members. I’m glad people are paying attention.

Mendo tabled the nomination, which means it's very likely dead.

Mendo is such a slickster. I don’t think he likes Allen.

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What about Ward 3? Is there a Frumin recall?

Feel free to take up the significant work of trying to mount one.

TBH, a Frumin recall effort probably has a better chance of success than an Allen recall effort. Just about everyone in Ward 3 thinks they were sold a bill of goods with him and want him out. He really does seem incompetent. Allen at least has some conviction behind his hilariously bad viewpoints. Frumin just seems like a bumbler.

You may well be right about Frumin. We need a strong candidate and a less fragmented field when he is up again. I don't think he will be recalled.

We need Silverman not to put her thumb on the scales.

Hopefully Silverman is done. Between her questionably legal “poll” which crucially helped Frumin and her support of a plan that gerrymandered a number of Ward 3 ANC seats and split neighborhoods, Silverman really screwed up things for us in the last DC election.

If Racine runs for mayor, I've been wondering if she will run again. Hope not, but DC does have a history with "resurrection" stories.

Racine has no business running for mayor. He’s the reason for the crime in DC, because he didn’t go after the juveniles.

Well that's kind of a winning platform in DC. Remember, there's nowhere to go after mayor in DC since there's no governor or serious seat in Congress so you're not going to get serious candidates.

These are excuses. Tony Williams and Adrian Fenty were both "serious candidates" who did a lot of good for this city during their mayoral terms. And while neither went on to higher office, they've both done pretty well in the private sector (this is the primary exit strategy for DC mayors -- go into political consulting and get paid bank to lobby on behalf of groups and issues to your former colleagues in government).

Not everyone wants to be governor or senator, and in some ways it's GOOD that DC mayor is as high as you can go because it means we should get candidates who view DC as the goal, not a stepping stone.

Since Fenty, we've really been struggling with an identity crisis in DC though. He got pushed out in favor of Gray in large part because "old school" DC (read: black DC) felt he was too interested in catering to businesses and white people. It's true that investment and development during his term was really heavily concentrated in NW, though we did also see investment in H Street and Navy Yard. But little or nothing across the river and that was his downfall. But then Gray was a bust -- scandal ridden and accomplished so little. Just a wasted administration.

I think some voters (myself among them) thought Bowser might be a return to a more growth and development minded mayoral office. Ugh, such a disappointment. Bowser only cares about Bowser. She's inept at driving investment. Her main strategy is to announce new projects, but her name and face on them, and then make no effort to maintain or repair anything so everything looks freaking derelict. I also suspect her office is absolutely riddled with grift. Her staff is a mess and she often has absolute incompetents in important roles. That this woman has been re-elected twice is a huge embarrassment.

Yet I couldn't bring myself to vote for White. He suggested closing schools for Covid in the spring of 2022. Absolutely not.

There's no reason we can't have good people in the mayor's office. We need to find them and support them. It sucks how thin the talent is right now. I have high hopes for Christina Henderson but can't think of a single other local politician I am enthusiastic about.

How about the councilmember from Georgetown? She was condemning crime before "the un-ignorable wave"...shows she actually noticed the indicators and was ahead , not behind, the problem

The same person who passed a crime bill in the summer that has led to a further increase in crime?

I don't think so..she has a recent bill addressing crime - I don't think she was behind the nonsensical one this summer

Both her bills. The Council voted to extend the temporary emergency provisions from the June bill. Not sure why you think it was "nonsensical?" It was limited and temporary by nature. And following on some prior action by Council on crime, crafted to both get votes and be an improvement.

I am for the current bill. but not for this bill. It was nonsensical-- https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1161902691/d-c-crime-bill-biden-overturn

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Ah, now I understand which bill you mean. Yes, that one was sponsored by Allen, not Pinto.

[Anonymous]

Allen's ideas have spread to MoCo.