FBI HQ in PG!

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

Nobody has worse roads than VA.

Try driving the "top side" of the beltway. Or the merge of 270 and 495. It sucks. At least VA does something to address the traffic. MD does nothing.

I don't have to because MD has so many other roads I can take to avoid those.

+1 This is the problem with Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:wonder if this will increase property values in pg

nothing will increase property values in pg - it's pg.

And you are a racist. Many parts of PG are actually very nice places to live, but most of DCUM will continue holding their noses and being racist, while telling themselves that it isn't racism. No, PG isn't perfect, but no place is and there is no reason for all the vitriol.

i think you are projecting here... it has nothing to do with race - and i agree with you, although there are some really awful pockets in pg, there are also some nice places to live. but, there is a long and well documented history of mismanagement and dysfunction in govt. at the local level in pg; things have gotten a little better but it still lags. so, i stand by my statement - nothing will increase property values in pg, mostly because it's pg.

It’s got entrenched corruption. Race doesn’t matter https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/pg-county-executive-wife-charged-with-tampering/

Oh damn.

This decade+ old story is news to you?

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Originally I had thought that the random other offices across the region would close with the opening of a new HQ that has more capacity - but now it’s unclear if that will be the case.

Really? That and security are the entire point.

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Anonymous wrote:Humorous to me that the gripe is that the location is too far from where the VA residents live. Welcome to our world. PG residents constantly have to go out to VA for work because of persistent corporate redlining.

And you log up the beltway every afternoon. If only VA could put a toll on the Wilson bridge

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I work at an Agency that moved from downtown to the Rt 1 corridor 20 years ago. The bulk of the employees did not move but as new hires came onboard, they chose PG, AA, MoCo and Howard counties over VA.
I do wonder how the Greenbelt hippies are going to cope with all the trees that need to come down. It that respect, the Landover site made more sense since it is a waste land at the moment.

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Anonymous wrote:Humorous to me that the gripe is that the location is too far from where the VA residents live. Welcome to our world. PG residents constantly have to go out to VA for work because of persistent corporate redlining.

Maryland having an unfriendly tax and business environment doesn’t equal “redlining”.

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Anonymous wrote:Humorous to me that the gripe is that the location is too far from where the VA residents live. Welcome to our world. PG residents constantly have to go out to VA for work because of persistent corporate redlining.

And you log up the beltway every afternoon. If only VA could put a toll on the Wilson bridge

dp.. so, isn't it good that they put the HQ in PG? Less traffic going down to VA, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Humorous to me that the gripe is that the location is too far from where the VA residents live. Welcome to our world. PG residents constantly have to go out to VA for work because of persistent corporate redlining.

And you log up the beltway every afternoon. If only VA could put a toll on the Wilson bridge

dp.. so, isn't it good that they put the HQ in PG? Less traffic going down to VA, right?

As a Virginia resident, I don't really want the traffic (although I don't think it will be that bad since so many already drive through the area) but I respect the FBI and want what's best for them. Unlike politicians who dislike the FBI and so many other government institutions.

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Anonymous wrote:There will still be a smaller contingent in DC and Redstone Arsenal. In fact most of the functions moved in 10-15 years, if this actually happens will be more admin type, finance, IT. This will affect hiring.

No everyone won’t metro to Greenbelt. That’s wishful thinking. Even if everyone did people will just stay inside the building and then clog traffic in all directions. Infrastructure should have been part of the discussion.

Wait till DC gets into the fight about losing all these workers that were supposed to save the economy.

Yes Greenbelt will get an FBI building but it’s not going to be the entire FBI. Yes there will be a slight bump in housing values but the idea this is going to save Greenbelt. Ha that’s funny.

DC has the universities to employ the DC residents, for better or for worse.

But I do agree that Maryland needs a bridge or two, because I do not foresee current FBI employees moving to Maryland. The lack of bridges should tell you something about the mismanagement in Maryland.

Also, other PP - don't worry about interaction with Langley. Not an issue.

My suspicion is that MD will use the FBI site selection as a rationale to request federal transportation funds to cover the additional infrastructure costs. They did the same for the consolidation of Walter Reed at NAV Bethesda, but this is going to be significantly larger scale. A lot of articles coming out lately about budget shortfalls, including in the transportation trust fund because MD has decided to siphon those funds off to pay for the Purple Line.

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a facility that large needs to be metro accessible. Greenbelt the area is kind of bleak but next to a metro really is the best location

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Anonymous wrote:a facility that large needs to be metro accessible. Greenbelt the area is kind of bleak but next to a metro really is the best location

Right? Springfield is a metro station.

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Anonymous wrote:Humorous to me that the gripe is that the location is too far from where the VA residents live. Welcome to our world. PG residents constantly have to go out to VA for work because of persistent corporate redlining.

And you log up the beltway every afternoon. If only VA could put a toll on the Wilson bridge

dp.. so, isn't it good that they put the HQ in PG? Less traffic going down to VA, right?

DP. Right. Even if everyone drives, more jobs in Prince George's County means fewer people driving west from Prince George's County on the Beltway in the morning and driving east to Prince George's County on the Beltway in the afternoon or evening. Which is good.

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Anonymous wrote:There will still be a smaller contingent in DC and Redstone Arsenal. In fact most of the functions moved in 10-15 years, if this actually happens will be more admin type, finance, IT. This will affect hiring.

No everyone won’t metro to Greenbelt. That’s wishful thinking. Even if everyone did people will just stay inside the building and then clog traffic in all directions. Infrastructure should have been part of the discussion.

Wait till DC gets into the fight about losing all these workers that were supposed to save the economy.

Yes Greenbelt will get an FBI building but it’s not going to be the entire FBI. Yes there will be a slight bump in housing values but the idea this is going to save Greenbelt. Ha that’s funny.

DC has the universities to employ the DC residents, for better or for worse.

But I do agree that Maryland needs a bridge or two, because I do not foresee current FBI employees moving to Maryland. The lack of bridges should tell you something about the mismanagement in Maryland.

Also, other PP - don't worry about interaction with Langley. Not an issue.

My suspicion is that MD will use the FBI site selection as a rationale to request federal transportation funds to cover the additional infrastructure costs. They did the same for the consolidation of Walter Reed at NAV Bethesda, but this is going to be significantly larger scale. A lot of articles coming out lately about budget shortfalls, including in the transportation trust fund because MD has decided to siphon those funds off to pay for the Purple Line.

Metro has floated the idea of a connection across the Potomac at the Wilson Bridge area. But to handle the increase in traffic, the Wilson Bridge will need expanding. That will cost $1b+. There's no way that Greenbelt is better economically than the Springfield site.

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Anonymous wrote:Humorous to me that the gripe is that the location is too far from where the VA residents live. Welcome to our world. PG residents constantly have to go out to VA for work because of persistent corporate redlining.

And you log up the beltway every afternoon. If only VA could put a toll on the Wilson bridge

dp.. so, isn't it good that they put the HQ in PG? Less traffic going down to VA, right?

Huh? The majority of current FBI employees live in Virginia and drive into DC. Having them drive to PG won't make traffic better anywhere - except in DC proper.

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Anonymous wrote:There will still be a smaller contingent in DC and Redstone Arsenal. In fact most of the functions moved in 10-15 years, if this actually happens will be more admin type, finance, IT. This will affect hiring.

No everyone won’t metro to Greenbelt. That’s wishful thinking. Even if everyone did people will just stay inside the building and then clog traffic in all directions. Infrastructure should have been part of the discussion.

Wait till DC gets into the fight about losing all these workers that were supposed to save the economy.

Yes Greenbelt will get an FBI building but it’s not going to be the entire FBI. Yes there will be a slight bump in housing values but the idea this is going to save Greenbelt. Ha that’s funny.

DC has the universities to employ the DC residents, for better or for worse.

But I do agree that Maryland needs a bridge or two, because I do not foresee current FBI employees moving to Maryland. The lack of bridges should tell you something about the mismanagement in Maryland.

Also, other PP - don't worry about interaction with Langley. Not an issue.

My suspicion is that MD will use the FBI site selection as a rationale to request federal transportation funds to cover the additional infrastructure costs. They did the same for the consolidation of Walter Reed at NAV Bethesda, but this is going to be significantly larger scale. A lot of articles coming out lately about budget shortfalls, including in the transportation trust fund because MD has decided to siphon those funds off to pay for the Purple Line.

Metro has floated the idea of a connection across the Potomac at the Wilson Bridge area. But to handle the increase in traffic, the Wilson Bridge will need expanding. That will cost $1b+. There's no way that Greenbelt is better economically than the Springfield site.

Metro’s proposed “blue line loop” will never happen, so they can forget about that.

Currently there is a VDOT study underway to extend HOT lanes over the Wilson Bridge and into MD. MD could use VDOTs Federal approval to build tolled express lanes along 495.

One major objection MD has seems to be having a private toll operator. So if the Feds will pay a significant portion of the cost - because FBI blah, blah, blah - then MDOT would likely operate the tolls like they do the 95 express lanes north of Baltimore.

This also seems to be the plan for the American Legion Bridge. Toll lanes will stay but removing the PPP.

The problem is that MD is broke, so it’s a good thing that they can now have Congress pay for our transportation infrastructure needs.