FBI HQ in PG!

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

Nobody has worse roads than VA.

Try driving the "top side" of the beltway. Or the merge of 270 and 495. It sucks. At least VA does something to address the traffic. MD does nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:There will still be a smaller contingent in DC and Redstone Arsenal. In fact most of the functions moved in 10-15 years, if this actually happens will be more admin type, finance, IT. This will affect hiring.

No everyone won’t metro to Greenbelt. That’s wishful thinking. Even if everyone did people will just stay inside the building and then clog traffic in all directions. Infrastructure should have been part of the discussion.

Wait till DC gets into the fight about losing all these workers that were supposed to save the economy.

Yes Greenbelt will get an FBI building but it’s not going to be the entire FBI. Yes there will be a slight bump in housing values but the idea this is going to save Greenbelt. Ha that’s funny.

That’s what I’ve been hearing too. It’s interesting because right now the FBI has little random offices scattered here and there in suburban office parks across the region. Not to mention the WFO, not to mention any employees who may be staying in DC even if/when a new HQ does open in the suburbs, AND all the people who moved to Huntsville.

Originally I had thought that the random other offices across the region would close with the opening of a new HQ that has more capacity - but now it’s unclear if that will be the case.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is an agent and said there’s a lot of unhappy people today. He said no one wanted MD. Landover is a dump and Greenbelt, while perhaps slightly better than Landover, is a PITA to get to relative to where most of the workforce lives. Truth be told, people wanted to stay in DC. However, given that wasn’t an option, Springfield was the clear preference.

I’m guessing over time that there will be some people relocating closer to the new HQ, particularly Anne Arundel and Howard counties.

It will be interesting if there is an influence on local politics. 5,000 FBI families could certainly tip the balance of local elections.

Most people will continue living where they currently live and drive to Greenbelt.

New hires or people relocating from field offices to HQ probably not.

FBI agents w/ FBI cars will want to live close by

If you think the gazillion SAs in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax will now up and move to .... PG, then you just might be the most out of touch person I've ever met.

Commute from Arlington and Alexandria is actually not that bad.

It's one hour and 5 minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is an agent and said there’s a lot of unhappy people today. He said no one wanted MD. Landover is a dump and Greenbelt, while perhaps slightly better than Landover, is a PITA to get to relative to where most of the workforce lives. Truth be told, people wanted to stay in DC. However, given that wasn’t an option, Springfield was the clear preference.

There's a secret CIA building near the Springfield, VA site that would create a nightmare for security if construction broke ground. That was a deciding factor.

-I work for the Public Buildings Service

Great! Why don't you post about it on a mom board! Dumbass.

Again. This was discussed when plans were first being made for a new HQ ~10 years ago and it was an issue then but is no longer an issue. It’s not a huge secret.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is an agent and said there’s a lot of unhappy people today. He said no one wanted MD. Landover is a dump and Greenbelt, while perhaps slightly better than Landover, is a PITA to get to relative to where most of the workforce lives. Truth be told, people wanted to stay in DC. However, given that wasn’t an option, Springfield was the clear preference.

I’m guessing over time that there will be some people relocating closer to the new HQ, particularly Anne Arundel and Howard counties.

It will be interesting if there is an influence on local politics. 5,000 FBI families could certainly tip the balance of local elections.

Most people will continue living where they currently live and drive to Greenbelt.

New hires or people relocating from field offices to HQ probably not.

FBI agents w/ FBI cars will want to live close by

If you think the gazillion SAs in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax will now up and move to .... PG, then you just might be the most out of touch person I've ever met.

Commute from Arlington and Alexandria is actually not that bad.

You’re as clueless as the PP who thinks HQ personnel are going to flock to AA or Howard Counties. Or, maybe you’re the same person.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

Nobody has worse roads than VA.

Try driving the "top side" of the beltway. Or the merge of 270 and 495. It sucks. At least VA does something to address the traffic. MD does nothing.

+1

Plus, VDOT just blew a ton of taxpayer money redoing roads, even those which did not need it at all.

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Humorous to me that the gripe is that the location is too far from where the VA residents live. Welcome to our world. PG residents constantly have to go out to VA for work because of persistent corporate redlining.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

Nobody has worse roads than VA.

Try driving the "top side" of the beltway. Or the merge of 270 and 495. It sucks. At least VA does something to address the traffic. MD does nothing.

I don't have to because MD has so many other roads I can take to avoid those.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

Nobody has worse roads than VA.

Try driving the "top side" of the beltway. Or the merge of 270 and 495. It sucks. At least VA does something to address the traffic. MD does nothing.

+1

Plus, VDOT just blew a ton of taxpayer money redoing roads, even those which did not need it at all.

is it still $33 one way on some of these roads?

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Anonymous wrote:DH is an agent and said there’s a lot of unhappy people today. He said no one wanted MD. Landover is a dump and Greenbelt, while perhaps slightly better than Landover, is a PITA to get to relative to where most of the workforce lives. Truth be told, people wanted to stay in DC. However, given that wasn’t an option, Springfield was the clear preference.

I’m guessing over time that there will be some people relocating closer to the new HQ, particularly Anne Arundel and Howard counties.

It will be interesting if there is an influence on local politics. 5,000 FBI families could certainly tip the balance of local elections.

Most people will continue living where they currently live and drive to Greenbelt.

New hires or people relocating from field offices to HQ probably not.

FBI agents w/ FBI cars will want to live close by

If you think the gazillion SAs in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax will now up and move to .... PG, then you just might be the most out of touch person I've ever met.

Commute from Arlington and Alexandria is actually not that bad.

It's one hour and 5 minutes.

On a good day — thanks to DC, which has the most obsolete and ass-backwards freeway network in the country, and MD, where the Beltway (especially between Bethesda and Greenbelt) is so functionally obsolete that it’s comically depressing.

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Anonymous wrote:wonder if this will increase property values in pg

nothing will increase property values in pg - it's pg.

And you are a racist. Many parts of PG are actually very nice places to live, but most of DCUM will continue holding their noses and being racist, while telling themselves that it isn't racism. No, PG isn't perfect, but no place is and there is no reason for all the vitriol.

i think you are projecting here... it has nothing to do with race - and i agree with you, although there are some really awful pockets in pg, there are also some nice places to live. but, there is a long and well documented history of mismanagement and dysfunction in govt. at the local level in pg; things have gotten a little better but it still lags. so, i stand by my statement - nothing will increase property values in pg, mostly because it's pg.

It’s got entrenched corruption. Race doesn’t matter https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/pg-county-executive-wife-charged-with-tampering/

Oh damn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should have made the location contingent on infrastructure improvements by Maryland. A new American Legion bridge, a new river crossing at route 28, and the continuation of 495 express lanes to 95.

I do wish Maryland invested more in realistic transportation. I moved from Fairfax co to MD and I'm so envious of all the added lanes to 495, 66, and 95 in VA. I frequently drive with my kids with me, so personally I love the HOT lanes.

Nobody has worse roads than VA.

Try driving the "top side" of the beltway. Or the merge of 270 and 495. It sucks. At least VA does something to address the traffic. MD does nothing.

+1

Plus, VDOT just blew a ton of taxpayer money redoing roads, even those which did not need it at all.

is it still $33 one way on some of these roads?

Probably - if not more. Don't forget whomever put the new HOT lanes in gets that money for infinity, literally. Good times.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is an agent and said there’s a lot of unhappy people today. He said no one wanted MD. Landover is a dump and Greenbelt, while perhaps slightly better than Landover, is a PITA to get to relative to where most of the workforce lives. Truth be told, people wanted to stay in DC. However, given that wasn’t an option, Springfield was the clear preference.

I’m guessing over time that there will be some people relocating closer to the new HQ, particularly Anne Arundel and Howard counties.

It will be interesting if there is an influence on local politics. 5,000 FBI families could certainly tip the balance of local elections.

Most people will continue living where they currently live and drive to Greenbelt.

New hires or people relocating from field offices to HQ probably not.

FBI agents w/ FBI cars will want to live close by

If you think the gazillion SAs in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax will now up and move to .... PG, then you just might be the most out of touch person I've ever met.

Commute from Arlington and Alexandria is actually not that bad.

You’re as clueless as the PP who thinks HQ personnel are going to flock to AA or Howard Counties. Or, maybe you’re the same person.

Where do you expect them to live? You know they have to live somewhere

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I thought it was in Prince William County.

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Anonymous wrote:Humorous to me that the gripe is that the location is too far from where the VA residents live. Welcome to our world. PG residents constantly have to go out to VA for work because of persistent corporate redlining.

No, it’s because MD has a higher corporate tax rate, higher income tax rate, and more red tape than VA. Combine that with higher crime, lower performing schools, worsening road congestion and an overall lack of investment in infrastructure — it’s a no brainer why most of the jobs are in VA and why MD is relegated to preying on the federal government for job growth.