FBI HQ in PG!

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Anonymous wrote:There will still be a smaller contingent in DC and Redstone Arsenal. In fact most of the functions moved in 10-15 years, if this actually happens will be more admin type, finance, IT. This will affect hiring.

No everyone won’t metro to Greenbelt. That’s wishful thinking. Even if everyone did people will just stay inside the building and then clog traffic in all directions. Infrastructure should have been part of the discussion.

Wait till DC gets into the fight about losing all these workers that were supposed to save the economy.

Yes Greenbelt will get an FBI building but it’s not going to be the entire FBI. Yes there will be a slight bump in housing values but the idea this is going to save Greenbelt. Ha that’s funny.


DC has the universities to employ the DC residents, for better or for worse.

But I do agree that Maryland needs a bridge or two, because I do not foresee current FBI employees moving to Maryland. The lack of bridges should tell you something about the mismanagement in Maryland.

Also, other PP - don't worry about interaction with Langley. Not an issue.

My suspicion is that MD will use the FBI site selection as a rationale to request federal transportation funds to cover the additional infrastructure costs. They did the same for the consolidation of Walter Reed at NAV Bethesda, but this is going to be significantly larger scale. A lot of articles coming out lately about budget shortfalls, including in the transportation trust fund because MD has decided to siphon those funds off to pay for the Purple Line.


Dear Washington,

We write to request your assistance in financing transportation improvements around the site in Greenbelt that we recently cajoled the General Services Administration into selecting as the next headquarters site for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

Your assistance is necessary because, as you know, we can't balance our budget, we overtax our residents, we overtax our remaining businesses, and we underinvest in our infrastructure. We also excel at wasting public resources to support boondoggle transportation projects like the Purple Line that benefit rich people while leaving other projects like Baltimore's Red Line extension that benefit poor people to wither on the vine.

We are so deserving of the new FBI headquarters. We know that our high corporate tax rates, high income tax rates, stifling business regulations, rising crime, declining public schools, obsolete highways, stagnant population growth, and lackluster economic growth make us an attractive and desirable location in the eyes of FBI employees and their families. Of course, our state flag is the cherry on the cake!

I'm sure you'll understand that despite our endless pushing, cajoling, and threatening to land this facility in the name of "equity" (we really had nothing else to offer as an incentive or justification), we'll need even more federal money to get our roads around Greenbelt updated. After all, we seemingly can't do anything by ourselves.

Sincerely,
Maryland
Anonymous
Stop your complaining and figure out how to make your commute work.....five years from now when it finally opens.

Le fin.
Anonymous
Somebody doesn't understand the role of federal funding in road construction. It's huge, for every state.

That same somebody is also out of date with respect to funding the Red Line in Baltimore, as well as apparently being aware of who initially killed the project and returned its federal funding to the federal government.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stop your complaining and figure out how to make your commute work.....five years from now when it finally opens.

Le fin.


It would be 5 years IF they picked a contractor to start on the project tomorrow. Realistically a lot longer than that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Somebody doesn't understand the role of federal funding in road construction. It's huge, for every state.

That same somebody is also out of date with respect to funding the Red Line in Baltimore, as well as apparently being aware of who initially killed the project and returned its federal funding to the federal government.


Not only federal funding - but developments are supposed to include planning for infrastructure, in well-managed cities/counties.
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Chris Wray says No.

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ITT whiny Virginians rely on old racist tropes about PGC bc they have to commute 2+ hours a day to the new FBI HQ and post decades old articles about political corruption in PG.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Chris Wray says No.



Chris Wray doesn’t have a say. Isn’t this the second time Greenbelt was selected under two different processes?
Anonymous
When people (apparently including the FBI director) say they have concerns about the PROCESS, what it really means is that they don't like the RESULT of the process.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:ITT whiny Virginians rely on old racist tropes about PGC bc they have to commute 2+ hours a day to the new FBI HQ and post decades old articles about political corruption in PG.


Why is anyone freaking out about their commute- this is going to take years and years and years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There will still be a smaller contingent in DC and Redstone Arsenal. In fact most of the functions moved in 10-15 years, if this actually happens will be more admin type, finance, IT. This will affect hiring.

No everyone won’t metro to Greenbelt. That’s wishful thinking. Even if everyone did people will just stay inside the building and then clog traffic in all directions. Infrastructure should have been part of the discussion.

Wait till DC gets into the fight about losing all these workers that were supposed to save the economy.

Yes Greenbelt will get an FBI building but it’s not going to be the entire FBI. Yes there will be a slight bump in housing values but the idea this is going to save Greenbelt. Ha that’s funny.


DC has the universities to employ the DC residents, for better or for worse.

But I do agree that Maryland needs a bridge or two, because I do not foresee current FBI employees moving to Maryland. The lack of bridges should tell you something about the mismanagement in Maryland.

Also, other PP - don't worry about interaction with Langley. Not an issue.

My suspicion is that MD will use the FBI site selection as a rationale to request federal transportation funds to cover the additional infrastructure costs. They did the same for the consolidation of Walter Reed at NAV Bethesda, but this is going to be significantly larger scale. A lot of articles coming out lately about budget shortfalls, including in the transportation trust fund because MD has decided to siphon those funds off to pay for the Purple Line.


Dear Washington,

We write to request your assistance in financing transportation improvements around the site in Greenbelt that we recently cajoled the General Services Administration into selecting as the next headquarters site for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

Your assistance is necessary because, as you know, we can't balance our budget, we overtax our residents, we overtax our remaining businesses, and we underinvest in our infrastructure. We also excel at wasting public resources to support boondoggle transportation projects like the Purple Line that benefit rich people while leaving other projects like Baltimore's Red Line extension that benefit poor people to wither on the vine.

We are so deserving of the new FBI headquarters. We know that our high corporate tax rates, high income tax rates, stifling business regulations, rising crime, declining public schools, obsolete highways, stagnant population growth, and lackluster economic growth make us an attractive and desirable location in the eyes of FBI employees and their families. Of course, our state flag is the cherry on the cake!

I'm sure you'll understand that despite our endless pushing, cajoling, and threatening to land this facility in the name of "equity" (we really had nothing else to offer as an incentive or justification), we'll need even more federal money to get our roads around Greenbelt updated. After all, we seemingly can't do anything by ourselves.

Sincerely,
Maryland

You’ve nailed it. This is basically the sum total of it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chris Wray says No.



Chris Wray doesn’t have a say. Isn’t this the second time Greenbelt was selected under two different processes?


Congress has the final say. We'll see who has more pull between MD and VA and just not spending the money and leaving it in DC. I wouldn't discount the third option
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Chris Wray says No.


L-O-L!

Compromise will obviously be 3 facilities:
- Smallish DC office for Director and big shots
- MD office for crime lab and admin
- VA office for agents/investigations
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chris Wray says No.



Chris Wray doesn’t have a say. Isn’t this the second time Greenbelt was selected under two different processes?


Congress has the final say. We'll see who has more pull between MD and VA and just not spending the money and leaving it in DC. I wouldn't discount the third option


A lot of people would like HQ to stay in DC but the FBI really wants a secure “campus” like CIA, NSA etc. already have and that almost necessitates a suburban location.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When people (apparently including the FBI director) say they have concerns about the PROCESS, what it really means is that they don't like the RESULT of the process.

There are multiple points of the process where there has been undue influence. First criteria heavily influenced by VA senators and FBI leadership. Then Trump intervention. Then revised criteria obviously put thumb on the scale for MD.

It was messy and ugly and political from the beginning.
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