is volleyball really a "mean girl" sport??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can all agree that men’s lacrosse breeds trash men who abuse and assault woman.

+1

The biggest d-bags on earth play lacrosse

Especially the private school teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can all agree that men’s lacrosse breeds trash men who abuse and assault woman.

Yes but why? It’s literally been like this since at least 1989 (based on my personal experience). I’ve lived all over the country and been involved in lacrosse as a volunteer or player for every decade in inner-city programs, west coast backwaters, and private school powerhouses since then and men’s lacrosse has never changed.

I don’t get how its culture is perpetuated across time, geography and income.

Back to volleyball: other girl’s sports are meaner and the players are not playing a “finesse sport” or “hardly breaking a sweat”. Go to a Big 10 game at Maryland before the season ends- it is so intense and fun to watch. And college teams have a great mix of body types and personalities.

I’ve always wondered this too. Is there some bro pledge every lacrosse player in the country is required to sign? On the flip side, I’ve never heard of a cross-country team anywhere populated by mean kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can all agree that men’s lacrosse breeds trash men who abuse and assault woman.

Yes but why? It’s literally been like this since at least 1989 (based on my personal experience). I’ve lived all over the country and been involved in lacrosse as a volunteer or player for every decade in inner-city programs, west coast backwaters, and private school powerhouses since then and men’s lacrosse has never changed.

I don’t get how its culture is perpetuated across time, geography and income.

Back to volleyball: other girl’s sports are meaner and the players are not playing a “finesse sport” or “hardly breaking a sweat”. Go to a Big 10 game at Maryland before the season ends- it is so intense and fun to watch. And college teams have a great mix of body types and personalities.

I’ve always wondered this too. Is there some bro pledge every lacrosse player in the country is required to sign? On the flip side, I’ve never heard of a cross-country team anywhere populated by mean kids.

It probably attracts the type and repels those who aren't the type now. I think you take a physical full contact sport like hockey or football and then add a massive dose of privilege and you get lacrosse. It's a terrible combination

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can all agree that men’s lacrosse breeds trash men who abuse and assault woman.

Yes but why? It’s literally been like this since at least 1989 (based on my personal experience). I’ve lived all over the country and been involved in lacrosse as a volunteer or player for every decade in inner-city programs, west coast backwaters, and private school powerhouses since then and men’s lacrosse has never changed.

I don’t get how its culture is perpetuated across time, geography and income.

Back to volleyball: other girl’s sports are meaner and the players are not playing a “finesse sport” or “hardly breaking a sweat”. Go to a Big 10 game at Maryland before the season ends- it is so intense and fun to watch. And college teams have a great mix of body types and personalities.

I’ve always wondered this too. Is there some bro pledge every lacrosse player in the country is required to sign? On the flip side, I’ve never heard of a cross-country team anywhere populated by mean kids.

Lacrosse is a brutal sport. Even more so than football IMO. They literally run around beating on each other with sticks nonstop. The bruises my nephew has on his arms are unbelievable.

My kid runs cross country. They do tend to be the chill kids, at her school anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can all agree that men’s lacrosse breeds trash men who abuse and assault woman.

Yes but why? It’s literally been like this since at least 1989 (based on my personal experience). I’ve lived all over the country and been involved in lacrosse as a volunteer or player for every decade in inner-city programs, west coast backwaters, and private school powerhouses since then and men’s lacrosse has never changed.

I don’t get how its culture is perpetuated across time, geography and income.

Back to volleyball: other girl’s sports are meaner and the players are not playing a “finesse sport” or “hardly breaking a sweat”. Go to a Big 10 game at Maryland before the season ends- it is so intense and fun to watch. And college teams have a great mix of body types and personalities.

Going to a Maryland game to see a mix of body types is an interesting choice. There are more girls on the roster above 6' than below and 6'0 seems to be the average height

https://umterps.com/sports/womens-volleyball/roster

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t you ask your daughter who made the comment what she meant? What was the point of rolling your eyes when you are actually curious about the comment?

+1, and my interpretation is that she is not talking about a general stereotype of volleyball players but the reputations of the girls who play volleyball at the school your kids attend.

It really does suck if your younger daughter is great at volleyball and likes it, but the team has a toxic culture. I'd definitely want more information to find out if there is any truth to it. Maybe it was just one cohort who was around at the same time as your older DD, and now it's better. Or maybe the culture sucks, but there are things you can do to insulate your younger DD from it if she continues to play.

We did talk about it. And my kids are young teens, so, at the risk of being hypocritical, they are prone to generalizations and "facts" in ways that adults often aren't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you are seriously considering steering your child away from volleyball because you’ve heard that all volleyball teams attract mean girls, you are hopelessly lacking in analytical skills. I also find it extremely hard to believe anyone who played D1 sports would be asking this question. Every school team is different, and most kids with good parental guidance can navigate most of them just fine. If you come to find a team your DD is on has a toxic culture, you can make a switch then.

Okay. Well, you can doubt it but it's true.
I had a conversation with a couple adults who raised this, which is even more making me wonder

[Anonymous]

Volleyball girls are certainly the “Popular mean girls” although not all of them are mean there is always that group of 4-7 girls that are jsut brats. Rolling their eyes and just yelling at their teammates and not telling them what they can do instead. Even in 5th grade girls were already mean during volleyball. If you don’t want to become a mean girl or have to interact with them then definitely don’t play volleyball.

[Anonymous]

This thread makes me sad. I played varsity volleyball in MCPS in the 1990s and the culture was so friendly and inclusive.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s a sport that tends to attract the popular girls, which will tend to be a little more mean girl than the nerds for sure.

I think this is because it’s a sport that doesn’t start young unlike almost all others. Most girls I know started in 4/5th or middle school. They join at that age bc their friends are doing it, so it tends to be a kid who is socially motivated.

[Anonymous]

I don’t even think too many students could name who plays volleyball at their school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a sport that tends to attract the popular girls, which will tend to be a little more mean girl than the nerds for sure.

I think this is because it’s a sport that doesn’t start young unlike almost all others. Most girls I know started in 4/5th or middle school. They join at that age bc their friends are doing it, so it tends to be a kid who is socially motivated.

+1 It’s also a non-contact sport, and prissy girls are often the mean girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a sport that tends to attract the popular girls, which will tend to be a little more mean girl than the nerds for sure.

I think this is because it’s a sport that doesn’t start young unlike almost all others. Most girls I know started in 4/5th or middle school. They join at that age bc their friends are doing it, so it tends to be a kid who is socially motivated.

+1 It’s also a non-contact sport, and prissy girls are often the mean girls.

Same poster. *STEREOTYPICAL non-contact sport. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s a sport that tends to attract the popular girls, which will tend to be a little more mean girl than the nerds for sure.

I think this is because it’s a sport that doesn’t start young unlike almost all others. Most girls I know started in 4/5th or middle school. They join at that age bc their friends are doing it, so it tends to be a kid who is socially motivated.

+1 It’s also a non-contact sport, and prissy girls are often the mean girls.

What an ignorant comment. When you’re playing travel it’s very intense. Have you seen how the girls dive and run into each other? Never mind. I bet your kid does band/theater.

[Anonymous]

I think the mean girls are in lacrosse. The mean moms included.