Getting Palestinian civilians to safety

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Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


What a bunch of loony leftist drivel


Oh here we go with the leftist. Everyone is a leftist. Does that include all the Kibbutz in Israel?
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Anonymous wrote:75,000 are in shelters. Egypt is free to open the border and let them in.


Didn’t Israel take the Gaza Strip from Egypt way back when?


Israel did as a result of Egypt’s invasion. They withdrew from Gaza in 2005 permanently in a land for peace deal (ha!) and it has been self governed ever since. The people elected Hamas and the rest is history. Egypt doesn’t want it. And yes, Egypt, if you care, open your borders and let these people in. They won’t though- they don’t actually care.



Please just stop the propaganda. Israel never gave Gaza autonomy. Israel still controls its trade, borders, electricity, and water.


Maybe they should stop attacking Israel and writing manifestos about how all Jews should die, then.

If they lived in Appalachia or Louisiana and had names like Trevor and Cody, you'd be all about starving them out. The anti-semitism PR machine has everyone convinced that when it's Hamas, it's all good and progressive.
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No. Jordan can take them. Algeria can take them. All the Arab nations can take them. Those are their brethren.


This is the problem. Israelis and the pro-apartheid crowd have always demanded that Palestinians be forcibly removed and that other countries cover the tracks of Israel's war crimes. Other countries cannot just take in 2 million people. The US has endless debates about taking in millions of refugees. Why do white Israelis always demand that native POC be taken care of by other countries? In most of the ME, governments are struggling to provide for their own populations. Adding millions drains services and resources, and it also teaches countries like Israel that you can commit genocide with impunity.

When Israel first forced millions from their homes in the 40s (and again in the 60s) Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon shouldered the burden with each country taking in millions. In the case of Lebanon, the Palestinian issue caused a civil war between the Muslim and Christian population which lasted 20 years. All because Israel wanted to kill or displace an entire population. And you wonder why their neighbors don't like them?


Stop it with the white Israelis and native POC crap.

Israelis and Palestinians are both indigenous to the region.


Um, except Palestinians are living there now. Lived there 20 years ago, 60 years ago, and 200 years ago. The Israeli claim is two millennia old and they are so far removed from the land its ridiculous. There should be a statute of limitations here but the Brits sold the land fair and square to get them out of Europe. Since that time, Israelis have appropriated food and culture and trying to claim it as their own, while murdering the people who've been making it for centuries. And yes, the vast majority of Israelis today are white, European.


500,000 Jews lived in what is now Israel in 1945, before Israel was established.

Israelis are Sephardic and Ashkenazi — not ethnically European.


Dude, please. There were over 3M Arabs in Palestine at the time the UK transferred to Israel. And 85% of Israelis came from Europe. The idea that they are not mainly white European is false - particularly when it is that privilege, that whiteness that garners so much more media attention over the thousands of dead and displaced Palestinians.


Jews were expelled from Israel and its surrounding areas and had to flee to Europe. That’s where the numerical imbalance comes from.

But our ethnicity never became European. I am Ashkenazi, not Ukrainian, where my family lived. Ashkenazim are ethnically Middle Eastern.


This is too much. Are you trying to tell me that you are not white? that you do not benefit from whiteness? You go outside and people assume that you are Middle Eastern woman of color? Is that how the media portrays you? No, they do not. And it precisely that privilege that has allowed Israel to be a terrorist state for 75 years. They can murder with impunity because their victims are Arabs. If they were killing Swedes, eg, media would not have given their blessing.

FYI all middle eastern people are considered white. There are plenty of blonde and blue eyed middle eastern people.


Ugh. This is untrue. There are not "plenty" of blondes in the ME. There may be blue eyes but definitely not the norm. Israelis cannot deny their inherent preferred status based on perceived whiteness. The vast majority are white - and significantly whiter than the Palestinian population.
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Anonymous wrote:Btw, Hamas could start bringing them down to the tunnels. That’s where the militants are safely staying. And the billionaires are sleeping in Qatar. Do you think they will start to save them? I’ll be watching for this.


You want to move tens or hundreds of thousands of Gazan families into tunnels? Is this a serious idea?
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Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."


The implicit is now explicit. It has always been heavily implied that Israeli civilians are more important than Palestinian civilians, but it seems that the Israelis are now willing to say it out loud.


I read this quote and it was clear he was talking to IDF troops about fighting Hamas militants. I agree we need a specific word for humans who make the behavioral choices we saw this weekend. We needed one for Isis, we need one now. Do you have a better suggestion than "human animal"?


His actions are now being considered a war crime by Human Rights Watch.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/09/israel-hamas-war-gaza-violence/#link-ZY5JY3JP4NCXXAK3JYNMMSRUEE


You mean his words. On the scale of war crimes...


Has Human Rights Watch made a statement about Hamas and their war crimes?
I went to their website, and frankly, it is mostly anti-Israel propaganda. And, pleas for donations all over the place.
Couldn't find anything condemning Hamas.


Human Rights Watch is one of the few US outlets reporting on IDF murders of Palestinian children. No wonder you hate them.
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Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


No. Jordan can take them. Algeria can take them. All the Arab nations can take them. Those are their brethren.


This is the problem. Israelis and the pro-apartheid crowd have always demanded that Palestinians be forcibly removed and that other countries cover the tracks of Israel's war crimes. Other countries cannot just take in 2 million people. The US has endless debates about taking in millions of refugees. Why do white Israelis always demand that native POC be taken care of by other countries? In most of the ME, governments are struggling to provide for their own populations. Adding millions drains services and resources, and it also teaches countries like Israel that you can commit genocide with impunity.

When Israel first forced millions from their homes in the 40s (and again in the 60s) Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon shouldered the burden with each country taking in millions. In the case of Lebanon, the Palestinian issue caused a civil war between the Muslim and Christian population which lasted 20 years. All because Israel wanted to kill or displace an entire population. And you wonder why their neighbors don't like them?


Stop it with the white Israelis and native POC crap.

Israelis and Palestinians are both indigenous to the region.


Um, except Palestinians are living there now. Lived there 20 years ago, 60 years ago, and 200 years ago. The Israeli claim is two millennia old and they are so far removed from the land its ridiculous. There should be a statute of limitations here but the Brits sold the land fair and square to get them out of Europe. Since that time, Israelis have appropriated food and culture and trying to claim it as their own, while murdering the people who've been making it for centuries. And yes, the vast majority of Israelis today are white, European.


500,000 Jews lived in what is now Israel in 1945, before Israel was established.

Israelis are Sephardic and Ashkenazi — not ethnically European.


Dude, please. There were over 3M Arabs in Palestine at the time the UK transferred to Israel. And 85% of Israelis came from Europe. The idea that they are not mainly white European is false - particularly when it is that privilege, that whiteness that garners so much more media attention over the thousands of dead and displaced Palestinians.


Jews were expelled from Israel and its surrounding areas and had to flee to Europe. That’s where the numerical imbalance comes from.

But our ethnicity never became European. I am Ashkenazi, not Ukrainian, where my family lived. Ashkenazim are ethnically Middle Eastern.


This is too much. Are you trying to tell me that you are not white? that you do not benefit from whiteness? You go outside and people assume that you are Middle Eastern woman of color? Is that how the media portrays you? No, they do not. And it precisely that privilege that has allowed Israel to be a terrorist state for 75 years. They can murder with impunity because their victims are Arabs. If they were killing Swedes, eg, media would not have given their blessing.

FYI all middle eastern people are considered white. There are plenty of blonde and blue eyed middle eastern people.


Ugh. This is untrue. There are not "plenty" of blondes in the ME. There may be blue eyes but definitely not the norm. Israelis cannot deny their inherent preferred status based on perceived whiteness. The vast majority are white - and significantly whiter than the Palestinian population.


You’re seriously splitting hairs here. Put a Palestinian and an Israeli next to each other. You’d barely be able to tell the difference.
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Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


No. Jordan can take them. Algeria can take them. All the Arab nations can take them. Those are their brethren.


This is the problem. Israelis and the pro-apartheid crowd have always demanded that Palestinians be forcibly removed and that other countries cover the tracks of Israel's war crimes. Other countries cannot just take in 2 million people. The US has endless debates about taking in millions of refugees. Why do white Israelis always demand that native POC be taken care of by other countries? In most of the ME, governments are struggling to provide for their own populations. Adding millions drains services and resources, and it also teaches countries like Israel that you can commit genocide with impunity.

When Israel first forced millions from their homes in the 40s (and again in the 60s) Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon shouldered the burden with each country taking in millions. In the case of Lebanon, the Palestinian issue caused a civil war between the Muslim and Christian population which lasted 20 years. All because Israel wanted to kill or displace an entire population. And you wonder why their neighbors don't like them?


Stop it with the white Israelis and native POC crap.

Israelis and Palestinians are both indigenous to the region.


Um, except Palestinians are living there now. Lived there 20 years ago, 60 years ago, and 200 years ago. The Israeli claim is two millennia old and they are so far removed from the land its ridiculous. There should be a statute of limitations here but the Brits sold the land fair and square to get them out of Europe. Since that time, Israelis have appropriated food and culture and trying to claim it as their own, while murdering the people who've been making it for centuries. And yes, the vast majority of Israelis today are white, European.


500,000 Jews lived in what is now Israel in 1945, before Israel was established.

Israelis are Sephardic and Ashkenazi — not ethnically European.


Dude, please. There were over 3M Arabs in Palestine at the time the UK transferred to Israel. And 85% of Israelis came from Europe. The idea that they are not mainly white European is false - particularly when it is that privilege, that whiteness that garners so much more media attention over the thousands of dead and displaced Palestinians.


Jews were expelled from Israel and its surrounding areas and had to flee to Europe. That’s where the numerical imbalance comes from.

But our ethnicity never became European. I am Ashkenazi, not Ukrainian, where my family lived. Ashkenazim are ethnically Middle Eastern.


This is too much. Are you trying to tell me that you are not white? that you do not benefit from whiteness? You go outside and people assume that you are Middle Eastern woman of color? Is that how the media portrays you? No, they do not. And it precisely that privilege that has allowed Israel to be a terrorist state for 75 years. They can murder with impunity because their victims are Arabs. If they were killing Swedes, eg, media would not have given their blessing.

FYI all middle eastern people are considered white. There are plenty of blonde and blue eyed middle eastern people.


Ugh. This is untrue. There are not "plenty" of blondes in the ME. There may be blue eyes but definitely not the norm. Israelis cannot deny their inherent preferred status based on perceived whiteness. The vast majority are white - and significantly whiter than the Palestinian population.


The desire to reduce everything to race is so juvenile.
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Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.


They could do more good here vs in Gaza. They would control 6 senators(from held by republicans) and 3 congressmen.


Of course the Palestinians' desire to remain in their own homelands, where their families have lived together for generations, is totally irrelevant to you.
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Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."


The implicit is now explicit. It has always been heavily implied that Israeli civilians are more important than Palestinian civilians, but it seems that the Israelis are now willing to say it out loud.


I read this quote and it was clear he was talking to IDF troops about fighting Hamas militants. I agree we need a specific word for humans who make the behavioral choices we saw this weekend. We needed one for Isis, we need one now. Do you have a better suggestion than "human animal"?


His actions are now being considered a war crime by Human Rights Watch.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/09/israel-hamas-war-gaza-violence/#link-ZY5JY3JP4NCXXAK3JYNMMSRUEE


You mean his words. On the scale of war crimes...


Has Human Rights Watch made a statement about Hamas and their war crimes?
I went to their website, and frankly, it is mostly anti-Israel propaganda. And, pleas for donations all over the place.
Couldn't find anything condemning Hamas.


Human Rights Watch is one of the few US outlets reporting on IDF murders of Palestinian children. No wonder you hate them.


HRW also reports on Hamas human rights violations. https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/30/palestine-impunity-arbitrary-arrests-torture
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Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


No. Jordan can take them. Algeria can take them. All the Arab nations can take them. Those are their brethren.


This is the problem. Israelis and the pro-apartheid crowd have always demanded that Palestinians be forcibly removed and that other countries cover the tracks of Israel's war crimes. Other countries cannot just take in 2 million people. The US has endless debates about taking in millions of refugees. Why do white Israelis always demand that native POC be taken care of by other countries? In most of the ME, governments are struggling to provide for their own populations. Adding millions drains services and resources, and it also teaches countries like Israel that you can commit genocide with impunity.

When Israel first forced millions from their homes in the 40s (and again in the 60s) Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon shouldered the burden with each country taking in millions. In the case of Lebanon, the Palestinian issue caused a civil war between the Muslim and Christian population which lasted 20 years. All because Israel wanted to kill or displace an entire population. And you wonder why their neighbors don't like them?


Stop it with the white Israelis and native POC crap.

Israelis and Palestinians are both indigenous to the region.


Um, except Palestinians are living there now. Lived there 20 years ago, 60 years ago, and 200 years ago. The Israeli claim is two millennia old and they are so far removed from the land its ridiculous. There should be a statute of limitations here but the Brits sold the land fair and square to get them out of Europe. Since that time, Israelis have appropriated food and culture and trying to claim it as their own, while murdering the people who've been making it for centuries. And yes, the vast majority of Israelis today are white, European.


500,000 Jews lived in what is now Israel in 1945, before Israel was established.

Israelis are Sephardic and Ashkenazi — not ethnically European.


Dude, please. There were over 3M Arabs in Palestine at the time the UK transferred to Israel. And 85% of Israelis came from Europe. The idea that they are not mainly white European is false - particularly when it is that privilege, that whiteness that garners so much more media attention over the thousands of dead and displaced Palestinians.


Jews were expelled from Israel and its surrounding areas and had to flee to Europe. That’s where the numerical imbalance comes from.

But our ethnicity never became European. I am Ashkenazi, not Ukrainian, where my family lived. Ashkenazim are ethnically Middle Eastern.


This is too much. Are you trying to tell me that you are not white? that you do not benefit from whiteness? You go outside and people assume that you are Middle Eastern woman of color? Is that how the media portrays you? No, they do not. And it precisely that privilege that has allowed Israel to be a terrorist state for 75 years. They can murder with impunity because their victims are Arabs. If they were killing Swedes, eg, media would not have given their blessing.

FYI all middle eastern people are considered white. There are plenty of blonde and blue eyed middle eastern people.


Ugh. This is untrue. There are not "plenty" of blondes in the ME. There may be blue eyes but definitely not the norm. Israelis cannot deny their inherent preferred status based on perceived whiteness. The vast majority are white - and significantly whiter than the Palestinian population.


The desire to reduce everything to race is so juvenile.


It’s what these people always do because it’s the only framework they know.
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Anonymous wrote:75,000 are in shelters. Egypt is free to open the border and let them in.


Didn’t Israel take the Gaza Strip from Egypt way back when?


Israel did as a result of Egypt’s invasion. They withdrew from Gaza in 2005 permanently in a land for peace deal (ha!) and it has been self governed ever since. The people elected Hamas and the rest is history. Egypt doesn’t want it. And yes, Egypt, if you care, open your borders and let these people in. They won’t though- they don’t actually care.



Please just stop the propaganda. Israel never gave Gaza autonomy. Israel still controls its trade, borders, electricity, and water.


Maybe they should stop attacking Israel and writing manifestos about how all Jews should die, then.

If they lived in Appalachia or Louisiana and had names like Trevor and Cody, you'd be all about starving them out. The anti-semitism PR machine has everyone convinced that when it's Hamas, it's all good and progressive.


Maybe Bibi shouldn't choose "proud racists" to represent him. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/haaretz-today/2023-04-20/ty-article/.premium/why-netanyahu-chose-a-proud-racist-to-represent-israel-in-new-york/00000187-9f21-d50b-a78f-ffb15af30000

Or choose avowed racists and pro-segregationists, like Ben-Gvir, who called Arabs "dogs," for his cabinet. https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/he-is-back-netanyahu-and-the-legitimization-of-the-far-right/
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Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


No. Jordan can take them. Algeria can take them. All the Arab nations can take them. Those are their brethren.


This is the problem. Israelis and the pro-apartheid crowd have always demanded that Palestinians be forcibly removed and that other countries cover the tracks of Israel's war crimes. Other countries cannot just take in 2 million people. The US has endless debates about taking in millions of refugees. Why do white Israelis always demand that native POC be taken care of by other countries? In most of the ME, governments are struggling to provide for their own populations. Adding millions drains services and resources, and it also teaches countries like Israel that you can commit genocide with impunity.

When Israel first forced millions from their homes in the 40s (and again in the 60s) Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon shouldered the burden with each country taking in millions. In the case of Lebanon, the Palestinian issue caused a civil war between the Muslim and Christian population which lasted 20 years. All because Israel wanted to kill or displace an entire population. And you wonder why their neighbors don't like them?


Stop it with the white Israelis and native POC crap.

Israelis and Palestinians are both indigenous to the region.


Um, except Palestinians are living there now. Lived there 20 years ago, 60 years ago, and 200 years ago. The Israeli claim is two millennia old and they are so far removed from the land its ridiculous. There should be a statute of limitations here but the Brits sold the land fair and square to get them out of Europe. Since that time, Israelis have appropriated food and culture and trying to claim it as their own, while murdering the people who've been making it for centuries. And yes, the vast majority of Israelis today are white, European.


500,000 Jews lived in what is now Israel in 1945, before Israel was established.

Israelis are Sephardic and Ashkenazi — not ethnically European.


Dude, please. There were over 3M Arabs in Palestine at the time the UK transferred to Israel. And 85% of Israelis came from Europe. The idea that they are not mainly white European is false - particularly when it is that privilege, that whiteness that garners so much more media attention over the thousands of dead and displaced Palestinians.


Jews were expelled from Israel and its surrounding areas and had to flee to Europe. That’s where the numerical imbalance comes from.

But our ethnicity never became European. I am Ashkenazi, not Ukrainian, where my family lived. Ashkenazim are ethnically Middle Eastern.


This is too much. Are you trying to tell me that you are not white? that you do not benefit from whiteness? You go outside and people assume that you are Middle Eastern woman of color? Is that how the media portrays you? No, they do not. And it precisely that privilege that has allowed Israel to be a terrorist state for 75 years. They can murder with impunity because their victims are Arabs. If they were killing Swedes, eg, media would not have given their blessing.

FYI all middle eastern people are considered white. There are plenty of blonde and blue eyed middle eastern people.


Ugh. This is untrue. There are not "plenty" of blondes in the ME. There may be blue eyes but definitely not the norm. Israelis cannot deny their inherent preferred status based on perceived whiteness. The vast majority are white - and significantly whiter than the Palestinian population.


The desire to reduce everything to race is so juvenile.


It’s what these people always do because it’s the only framework they know.


I mean, claiming that Israelis are somehow whiter and therefore have a preferred status-- wut? They live in the Middle East surrounded by people who want to kill them, and they are the same skin tone as all the Arabs. Wtf. Jordan's royal family is literally half American and Anglo.
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Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


No. Jordan can take them. Algeria can take them. All the Arab nations can take them. Those are their brethren.


This is the problem. Israelis and the pro-apartheid crowd have always demanded that Palestinians be forcibly removed and that other countries cover the tracks of Israel's war crimes. Other countries cannot just take in 2 million people. The US has endless debates about taking in millions of refugees. Why do white Israelis always demand that native POC be taken care of by other countries? In most of the ME, governments are struggling to provide for their own populations. Adding millions drains services and resources, and it also teaches countries like Israel that you can commit genocide with impunity.

When Israel first forced millions from their homes in the 40s (and again in the 60s) Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon shouldered the burden with each country taking in millions. In the case of Lebanon, the Palestinian issue caused a civil war between the Muslim and Christian population which lasted 20 years. All because Israel wanted to kill or displace an entire population. And you wonder why their neighbors don't like them?


Stop it with the white Israelis and native POC crap.

Israelis and Palestinians are both indigenous to the region.


Um, except Palestinians are living there now. Lived there 20 years ago, 60 years ago, and 200 years ago. The Israeli claim is two millennia old and they are so far removed from the land its ridiculous. There should be a statute of limitations here but the Brits sold the land fair and square to get them out of Europe. Since that time, Israelis have appropriated food and culture and trying to claim it as their own, while murdering the people who've been making it for centuries. And yes, the vast majority of Israelis today are white, European.


500,000 Jews lived in what is now Israel in 1945, before Israel was established.

Israelis are Sephardic and Ashkenazi — not ethnically European.


Dude, please. There were over 3M Arabs in Palestine at the time the UK transferred to Israel. And 85% of Israelis came from Europe. The idea that they are not mainly white European is false - particularly when it is that privilege, that whiteness that garners so much more media attention over the thousands of dead and displaced Palestinians.


Jews were expelled from Israel and its surrounding areas and had to flee to Europe. That’s where the numerical imbalance comes from.

But our ethnicity never became European. I am Ashkenazi, not Ukrainian, where my family lived. Ashkenazim are ethnically Middle Eastern.


This is too much. Are you trying to tell me that you are not white? that you do not benefit from whiteness? You go outside and people assume that you are Middle Eastern woman of color? Is that how the media portrays you? No, they do not. And it precisely that privilege that has allowed Israel to be a terrorist state for 75 years. They can murder with impunity because their victims are Arabs. If they were killing Swedes, eg, media would not have given their blessing.

FYI all middle eastern people are considered white. There are plenty of blonde and blue eyed middle eastern people.


Ugh. This is untrue. There are not "plenty" of blondes in the ME. There may be blue eyes but definitely not the norm. Israelis cannot deny their inherent preferred status based on perceived whiteness. The vast majority are white - and significantly whiter than the Palestinian population.


You’re seriously splitting hairs here. Put a Palestinian and an Israeli next to each other. You’d barely be able to tell the difference.


You clearly do not know any Palestinians nor spend much time with Arabs. Is your believe that Israel does not benefit from its European/whiteness?
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Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


No. Jordan can take them. Algeria can take them. All the Arab nations can take them. Those are their brethren.


This is the problem. Israelis and the pro-apartheid crowd have always demanded that Palestinians be forcibly removed and that other countries cover the tracks of Israel's war crimes. Other countries cannot just take in 2 million people. The US has endless debates about taking in millions of refugees. Why do white Israelis always demand that native POC be taken care of by other countries? In most of the ME, governments are struggling to provide for their own populations. Adding millions drains services and resources, and it also teaches countries like Israel that you can commit genocide with impunity.

When Israel first forced millions from their homes in the 40s (and again in the 60s) Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon shouldered the burden with each country taking in millions. In the case of Lebanon, the Palestinian issue caused a civil war between the Muslim and Christian population which lasted 20 years. All because Israel wanted to kill or displace an entire population. And you wonder why their neighbors don't like them?


Stop it with the white Israelis and native POC crap.

Israelis and Palestinians are both indigenous to the region.


Um, except Palestinians are living there now. Lived there 20 years ago, 60 years ago, and 200 years ago. The Israeli claim is two millennia old and they are so far removed from the land its ridiculous. There should be a statute of limitations here but the Brits sold the land fair and square to get them out of Europe. Since that time, Israelis have appropriated food and culture and trying to claim it as their own, while murdering the people who've been making it for centuries. And yes, the vast majority of Israelis today are white, European.


500,000 Jews lived in what is now Israel in 1945, before Israel was established.

Israelis are Sephardic and Ashkenazi — not ethnically European.


Dude, please. There were over 3M Arabs in Palestine at the time the UK transferred to Israel. And 85% of Israelis came from Europe. The idea that they are not mainly white European is false - particularly when it is that privilege, that whiteness that garners so much more media attention over the thousands of dead and displaced Palestinians.


Jews were expelled from Israel and its surrounding areas and had to flee to Europe. That’s where the numerical imbalance comes from.

But our ethnicity never became European. I am Ashkenazi, not Ukrainian, where my family lived. Ashkenazim are ethnically Middle Eastern.


This is too much. Are you trying to tell me that you are not white? that you do not benefit from whiteness? You go outside and people assume that you are Middle Eastern woman of color? Is that how the media portrays you? No, they do not. And it precisely that privilege that has allowed Israel to be a terrorist state for 75 years. They can murder with impunity because their victims are Arabs. If they were killing Swedes, eg, media would not have given their blessing.

FYI all middle eastern people are considered white. There are plenty of blonde and blue eyed middle eastern people.


Ugh. This is untrue. There are not "plenty" of blondes in the ME. There may be blue eyes but definitely not the norm. Israelis cannot deny their inherent preferred status based on perceived whiteness. The vast majority are white - and significantly whiter than the Palestinian population.


The desire to reduce everything to race is so juvenile.


No, it helps to explain why no one has cared for decades about Israel's war crimes. They don't care because the victims are non-white. The world does not care about Arab victims. In the same way that the US is only concerned with white schools being shot up and not POC majority schools. And Israel has rode the post WW2 pity wave for so long. 80+ years on, no one is alive to remember that and the generations mindset has shifted.
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Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


No. Jordan can take them. Algeria can take them. All the Arab nations can take them. Those are their brethren.


This is the problem. Israelis and the pro-apartheid crowd have always demanded that Palestinians be forcibly removed and that other countries cover the tracks of Israel's war crimes. Other countries cannot just take in 2 million people. The US has endless debates about taking in millions of refugees. Why do white Israelis always demand that native POC be taken care of by other countries? In most of the ME, governments are struggling to provide for their own populations. Adding millions drains services and resources, and it also teaches countries like Israel that you can commit genocide with impunity.

When Israel first forced millions from their homes in the 40s (and again in the 60s) Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon shouldered the burden with each country taking in millions. In the case of Lebanon, the Palestinian issue caused a civil war between the Muslim and Christian population which lasted 20 years. All because Israel wanted to kill or displace an entire population. And you wonder why their neighbors don't like them?


Stop it with the white Israelis and native POC crap.

Israelis and Palestinians are both indigenous to the region.


Um, except Palestinians are living there now. Lived there 20 years ago, 60 years ago, and 200 years ago. The Israeli claim is two millennia old and they are so far removed from the land its ridiculous. There should be a statute of limitations here but the Brits sold the land fair and square to get them out of Europe. Since that time, Israelis have appropriated food and culture and trying to claim it as their own, while murdering the people who've been making it for centuries. And yes, the vast majority of Israelis today are white, European.


500,000 Jews lived in what is now Israel in 1945, before Israel was established.

Israelis are Sephardic and Ashkenazi — not ethnically European.


Dude, please. There were over 3M Arabs in Palestine at the time the UK transferred to Israel. And 85% of Israelis came from Europe. The idea that they are not mainly white European is false - particularly when it is that privilege, that whiteness that garners so much more media attention over the thousands of dead and displaced Palestinians.


Jews were expelled from Israel and its surrounding areas and had to flee to Europe. That’s where the numerical imbalance comes from.

But our ethnicity never became European. I am Ashkenazi, not Ukrainian, where my family lived. Ashkenazim are ethnically Middle Eastern.


This is too much. Are you trying to tell me that you are not white? that you do not benefit from whiteness? You go outside and people assume that you are Middle Eastern woman of color? Is that how the media portrays you? No, they do not. And it precisely that privilege that has allowed Israel to be a terrorist state for 75 years. They can murder with impunity because their victims are Arabs. If they were killing Swedes, eg, media would not have given their blessing.

FYI all middle eastern people are considered white. There are plenty of blonde and blue eyed middle eastern people.


Ugh. This is untrue. There are not "plenty" of blondes in the ME. There may be blue eyes but definitely not the norm. Israelis cannot deny their inherent preferred status based on perceived whiteness. The vast majority are white - and significantly whiter than the Palestinian population.


You’re seriously splitting hairs here. Put a Palestinian and an Israeli next to each other. You’d barely be able to tell the difference.


You clearly do not know any Palestinians nor spend much time with Arabs. Is your believe that Israel does not benefit from its European/whiteness?

Have you ever met a Mizrahi Jew?
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