Getting Palestinian civilians to safety

Anonymous
As a Jew I think this is an imperative. But they apparently can’t get out of the strike zone. What’s the answer? Hamas is awful but killing hundreds of regular people is not the solution.
Anonymous
75,000 are in shelters. Egypt is free to open the border and let them in.
Anonymous
I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.


Egypt can open the border at any time. It is horrible that innocent Palestinians will die as a result of Hamas's mass war crimes, but Israel has warned them to evacuate and allowed for safe passage to shelters. Our pressure should be on Egypt to lift their blockade and help find the Israeli hostages, including many children who saw their parents tortured in front of them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.


Egypt can open the border at any time. It is horrible that innocent Palestinians will die as a result of Hamas's mass war crimes, but Israel has warned them to evacuate and allowed for safe passage to shelters. Our pressure should be on Egypt to lift their blockade and help find the Israeli hostages, including many children who saw their parents tortured in front of them.


According to the UN the vast majority of Palestinians have not been able to freely move. Blaming a million+ people who need humanitarian aid for not getting out is repulsive. Do you know anything about Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs?

ALL innocent people should be saved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.


Egypt can open the border at any time. It is horrible that innocent Palestinians will die as a result of Hamas's mass war crimes, but Israel has warned them to evacuate and allowed for safe passage to shelters. Our pressure should be on Egypt to lift their blockade and help find the Israeli hostages, including many children who saw their parents tortured in front of them.


According to the UN the vast majority of Palestinians have not been able to freely move. Blaming a million+ people who need humanitarian aid for not getting out is repulsive. Do you know anything about Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs?

ALL innocent people should be saved.


Israel controls one border, and Egypt the other. You are calling the Egyptian embassy? it is unlkely that the Israelis are opening their side any time soon given the events of this weekend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."


The implicit is now explicit. It has always been heavily implied that Israeli civilians are more important than Palestinian civilians, but it seems that the Israelis are now willing to say it out loud.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."


The implicit is now explicit. It has always been heavily implied that Israeli civilians are more important than Palestinian civilians, but it seems that the Israelis are now willing to say it out loud.


I read this quote and it was clear he was talking to IDF troops about fighting Hamas militants. I agree we need a specific word for humans who make the behavioral choices we saw this weekend. We needed one for Isis, we need one now. Do you have a better suggestion than "human animal"?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.


For anyone else who doesn't understand the calculus:

IDF doesn't want to go on the ground in Gaza. They will lose in a house-to-house battle and they will certainly lose some hostages they very much want to recover.

So, their calculus is like this: I can't fight you for my hostages but I will starve you so you hand them over voluntarily.

We'll see who blinks first.
Anonymous
The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."


The implicit is now explicit. It has always been heavily implied that Israeli civilians are more important than Palestinian civilians, but it seems that the Israelis are now willing to say it out loud.


I read this quote and it was clear he was talking to IDF troops about fighting Hamas militants. I agree we need a specific word for humans who make the behavioral choices we saw this weekend. We needed one for Isis, we need one now. Do you have a better suggestion than "human animal"?


Maybe I am reading the statement differently. Who is punished by cutting off food, fuel, and electricity to 2 million people?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."


The implicit is now explicit. It has always been heavily implied that Israeli civilians are more important than Palestinian civilians, but it seems that the Israelis are now willing to say it out loud.


I read this quote and it was clear he was talking to IDF troops about fighting Hamas militants. I agree we need a specific word for humans who make the behavioral choices we saw this weekend. We needed one for Isis, we need one now. Do you have a better suggestion than "human animal"?


His actions are now being considered a war crime by Human Rights Watch.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/09/israel-hamas-war-gaza-violence/#link-ZY5JY3JP4NCXXAK3JYNMMSRUEE
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.


Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.


For anyone else who doesn't understand the calculus:

IDF doesn't want to go on the ground in Gaza. They will lose in a house-to-house battle and they will certainly lose some hostages they very much want to recover.

So, their calculus is like this: I can't fight you for my hostages but I will starve you so you hand them over voluntarily.

We'll see who blinks first.


That is stupid. The people with guns, support form the outside and organization do not starve. You are just creating the next wave of fighters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.


For anyone else who doesn't understand the calculus:

IDF doesn't want to go on the ground in Gaza. They will lose in a house-to-house battle and they will certainly lose some hostages they very much want to recover.

So, their calculus is like this: I can't fight you for my hostages but I will starve you so you hand them over voluntarily.

We'll see who blinks first.


I understand, but you're pitting nearly 2 million Palestinians at risk (who were already at risk) for 30-200 Israelis.
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