Getting Palestinian civilians to safety

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.

Egypt can open the border at any time. It is horrible that innocent Palestinians will die as a result of Hamas's mass war crimes, but Israel has warned them to evacuate and allowed for safe passage to shelters. Our pressure should be on Egypt to lift their blockade and help find the Israeli hostages, including many children who saw their parents tortured in front of them.

According to the UN the vast majority of Palestinians have not been able to freely move. Blaming a million+ people who need humanitarian aid for not getting out is repulsive. Do you know anything about Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs?

ALL innocent people should be saved.

How innocent are they? They are a small area and voted for this extremism. Not the US where New York voted for something and we are concerned about the people wanting something different living in Alaska. I'm sure many if not most of these families supported this approach. I saw them in the streets cheering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.

They’ve lived there for like 50 years. They are Egyptian, the West Bank residents are Jordanian. There is no Palestinian ancient homeland.

This is total and complete propaganda that people tell themselves to justify stealing land. This is like saying native Americans no longer have a homeland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.

Egypt can open the border at any time. It is horrible that innocent Palestinians will die as a result of Hamas's mass war crimes, but Israel has warned them to evacuate and allowed for safe passage to shelters. Our pressure should be on Egypt to lift their blockade and help find the Israeli hostages, including many children who saw their parents tortured in front of them.

According to the UN the vast majority of Palestinians have not been able to freely move. Blaming a million+ people who need humanitarian aid for not getting out is repulsive. Do you know anything about Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs?

ALL innocent people should be saved.

How innocent are they? They are a small area and voted for this extremism. Not the US where New York voted for something and we are concerned about the people wanting something different living in Alaska. I'm sure many if not most of these families supported this approach. I saw them in the streets cheering.

The majority weren’t even born when the last election took place

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.

Egypt can open the border at any time. It is horrible that innocent Palestinians will die as a result of Hamas's mass war crimes, but Israel has warned them to evacuate and allowed for safe passage to shelters. Our pressure should be on Egypt to lift their blockade and help find the Israeli hostages, including many children who saw their parents tortured in front of them.

According to the UN the vast majority of Palestinians have not been able to freely move. Blaming a million+ people who need humanitarian aid for not getting out is repulsive. Do you know anything about Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs?

ALL innocent people should be saved.

How innocent are they? They are a small area and voted for this extremism. Not the US where New York voted for something and we are concerned about the people wanting something different living in Alaska. I'm sure many if not most of these families supported this approach. I saw them in the streets cheering.

The majority weren’t even born when the last election took place

There is no way the people of that area are not supporting Hamas. Show me a poll that says they do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.

They’ve lived there for like 50 years. They are Egyptian, the West Bank residents are Jordanian. There is no Palestinian ancient homeland.

This is total and complete propaganda that people tell themselves to justify stealing land. This is like saying native Americans no longer have a homeland.

It is fact. Palestine is the name that the Romans gave to the land when it expelled THE JEWS after the destruction of the second temple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.

They’ve lived there for like 50 years. They are Egyptian, the West Bank residents are Jordanian. There is no Palestinian ancient homeland.

Just like there is no Inuit homeland. No Aborigines homeland. No Cherokee , Choctaw, Navajo, Sioux, Blackfoot, Seminole, or Iroquois homelands. NOT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.

They’ve lived there for like 50 years. They are Egyptian, the West Bank residents are Jordanian. There is no Palestinian ancient homeland.

This is total and complete propaganda that people tell themselves to justify stealing land. This is like saying native Americans no longer have a homeland.

It is fact. Palestine is the name that the Romans gave to the land when it expelled THE JEWS after the destruction of the second temple.

Umm is your argument that Palestinians have only had a claim on the land for 2,000 years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The Hamas war crimes are indefensible. There is no question about it. But, for people likening it to 9/11 can you imagine if President Bush had lumped in innocent civilians with terrorists in such a derogatory matter?

The UN reported earlier this year that 60% of Palestinians were in need of humanitarian assistance and now they just cut off funding. Maybe Israel come to reason and allow food drops, or allow women and children to leave (which I don't know if I could do since I have teenage boys).

This is all so deeply upsetting. That more lives will be lost is heartbreaking.

Egypt can open the border at any time. It is horrible that innocent Palestinians will die as a result of Hamas's mass war crimes, but Israel has warned them to evacuate and allowed for safe passage to shelters. Our pressure should be on Egypt to lift their blockade and help find the Israeli hostages, including many children who saw their parents tortured in front of them.

According to the UN the vast majority of Palestinians have not been able to freely move. Blaming a million+ people who need humanitarian aid for not getting out is repulsive. Do you know anything about Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs?

ALL innocent people should be saved.

How innocent are they? They are a small area and voted for this extremism. Not the US where New York voted for something and we are concerned about the people wanting something different living in Alaska. I'm sure many if not most of these families supported this approach. I saw them in the streets cheering.

The majority weren’t even born when the last election took place

There is no way the people of that area are not supporting Hamas. Show me a poll that says they do not.

You think they should support Israel? As of august this year, Israel has killed over 200 Palestinians. How would Israel respond to an outside force killing 200 Israelis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.

They’ve lived there for like 50 years. They are Egyptian, the West Bank residents are Jordanian. There is no Palestinian ancient homeland.

This is total and complete propaganda that people tell themselves to justify stealing land. This is like saying native Americans no longer have a homeland.

It is fact. Palestine is the name that the Romans gave to the land when it expelled THE JEWS after the destruction of the second temple.

Umm is your argument that Palestinians have only had a claim on the land for 2,000 years?

Nice try. My facts are that Palestinians are Egyptian and Jordanian and these particular groups were no where near Israel during the second temple. The Romans expelled the Jewish people from their homeland and renamed it Palestine to torture the Jews (in honor of the philistines) in 70AD. Islam was founded in 600AD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.

They’ve lived there for like 50 years. They are Egyptian, the West Bank residents are Jordanian. There is no Palestinian ancient homeland.

This is total and complete propaganda that people tell themselves to justify stealing land. This is like saying native Americans no longer have a homeland.

It is fact. Palestine is the name that the Romans gave to the land when it expelled THE JEWS after the destruction of the second temple.

Umm is your argument that Palestinians have only had a claim on the land for 2,000 years?

Nice try. My facts are that Palestinians are Egyptian and Jordanian and these particular groups were no where near Israel during the second temple. The Romans expelled the Jewish people from their homeland and renamed it Palestine to torture the Jews (in honor of the philistines) in 70AD. Islam was founded in 600AD.

You do realize that people lived there through out? It’s not like the area was ever empty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The implicit is now explicit. It has always been heavily implied that Israeli civilians are more important than Palestinian civilians, but it seems that the Israelis are now willing to say it out loud.

Yes yes they are.

“What we will do to them in the coming days will reverberate with them for generations.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so fearful for everyone in that region. It looks like the Palestinians will quickly starve to death, and it doesn't look promising when Defense Minister Yoav Gallant didn't distinguish between the terrorists Hamas and the average Palestinian when he said: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly."

The implicit is now explicit. It has always been heavily implied that Israeli civilians are more important than Palestinian civilians, but it seems that the Israelis are now willing to say it out loud.

I read this quote and it was clear he was talking to IDF troops about fighting Hamas militants. I agree we need a specific word for humans who make the behavioral choices we saw this weekend. We needed one for Isis, we need one now. Do you have a better suggestion than "human animal"?

His actions are now being considered a war crime by Human Rights Watch.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/09/israel-hamas-war-gaza-violence/#link-ZY5JY3JP4NCXXAK3JYNMMSRUEE

You mean his words. On the scale of war crimes...

His actions, since Gaza is in fact under siege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

You haven't thought through this, have you? You think bringing 2 million fundamentalist terrorism supporting hate filled people will magically turn them into Democratic sycophants? Because, you know, "people of color" and all that, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.

They’ve lived there for like 50 years. They are Egyptian, the West Bank residents are Jordanian. There is no Palestinian ancient homeland.

This is total and complete propaganda that people tell themselves to justify stealing land. This is like saying native Americans no longer have a homeland.

It is fact. Palestine is the name that the Romans gave to the land when it expelled THE JEWS after the destruction of the second temple.

Umm is your argument that Palestinians have only had a claim on the land for 2,000 years?

Nice try. My facts are that Palestinians are Egyptian and Jordanian and these particular groups were no where near Israel during the second temple. The Romans expelled the Jewish people from their homeland and renamed it Palestine to torture the Jews (in honor of the philistines) in 70AD. Islam was founded in 600AD.

I am actually Egyptian American and neither Gazans nor Palestinians in general have ever been considered Egyptian. Ever. They do not speak the same Arabic dialect as Egyptians, as people of the Levant they tend to be lighter skinned, Palestinian Christians are a different denomination of Christianity, their foods are different, they have different traditions. They are their own people and have lived continuously in what is known as Israel for thousands of years. They are indeed an indigenous group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US must take all these refugees and give them citizenship. We should evacuate all 2 million of the Gaza. We can relocate 500k to Wyoming and split the rest between N. And S Dakota.

Why would they want to come here? They want their homeland, they just don't want to compromise.

They’ve lived there for like 50 years. They are Egyptian, the West Bank residents are Jordanian. There is no Palestinian ancient homeland.

This is total and complete propaganda that people tell themselves to justify stealing land. This is like saying native Americans no longer have a homeland.

It is fact. Palestine is the name that the Romans gave to the land when it expelled THE JEWS after the destruction of the second temple.

Umm is your argument that Palestinians have only had a claim on the land for 2,000 years?

Nice try. My facts are that Palestinians are Egyptian and Jordanian and these particular groups were no where near Israel during the second temple. The Romans expelled the Jewish people from their homeland and renamed it Palestine to torture the Jews (in honor of the philistines) in 70AD. Islam was founded in 600AD.

You do realize that people lived there through out? It’s not like the area was ever empty

Yes, Jews lived in Jerusalem and the West Bank. Jesus was a Jew from Bethlehem, remember? And then the Romans, and then the Christians, and then the Muslims (who allowed Jews to return and pray as they once did!).

Gaza has no religious significance to Judaism. Israel rightfully took it as a strategic move during the 6 day war when every Arab neighbor tried to destroy the country. Left it completely in 2005 and they have been self governed ever since. Gaza shares a border with Egypt and the people can move freely. Many work and go to school in Israel proper.