Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

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Anonymous wrote:We can cut through this all pretty easily:

Dumb white liberals overpaid for housing in “gentrified” areas relying on virtually free credit/near 0% interest rates from the government.

They all now feel stupid, and don’t want to raise their children in parks that serve as homeless encampments littered with heroin needles.

The District doesn’t believe in policing or prosecuting crime. It’s plain as day. Your mayor and prosecutor admit it. They campaign on it.

I’m not remotely a MAGA but you all need to get real about what “democrat” leadership has done to the city.

Crime dropped dramatically from 1996 through 2015, all during “Democratic” (not “Democrat” dumbshit) mayoral administrations. Now it’s rising during Democratic administrations. So there’s zero correlation. What does matter are the policies adopted by different Democratic administrations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can cut through this all pretty easily:

Dumb white liberals overpaid for housing in “gentrified” areas relying on virtually free credit/near 0% interest rates from the government.

They all now feel stupid, and don’t want to raise their children in parks that serve as homeless encampments littered with heroin needles.

The District doesn’t believe in policing or prosecuting crime. It’s plain as day. Your mayor and prosecutor admit it. They campaign on it.

I’m not remotely a MAGA but you all need to get real about what “democrat” leadership has done to the city.

Crime dropped dramatically from 1996 through 2015, all during “Democratic” (not “Democrat” dumbshit) mayoral administrations. Now it’s rising during Democratic administrations. So there’s zero correlation. What does matter are the policies adopted by different Democratic administrations.

Is this where others use the tactics of the head in the sand crowd about DC's current crime wave and mention that crime dropped dramatically in almost every city during that timeframe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We can cut through this all pretty easily:

Dumb white liberals overpaid for housing in “gentrified” areas relying on virtually free credit/near 0% interest rates from the government.

They all now feel stupid, and don’t want to raise their children in parks that serve as homeless encampments littered with heroin needles.

The District doesn’t believe in policing or prosecuting crime. It’s plain as day. Your mayor and prosecutor admit it. They campaign on it.

I’m not remotely a MAGA but you all need to get real about what “democrat” leadership has done to the city.

Crime dropped dramatically from 1996 through 2015, all during “Democratic” (not “Democrat” dumbshit) mayoral administrations. Now it’s rising during Democratic administrations. So there’s zero correlation. What does matter are the policies adopted by different Democratic administrations.

Correct. What Democrats believed, campaigned on and put into practice radically changed over the course of those years. (See eg Joe Crowley Vs AOC) The New Democrat vision IS 100% responsible for this mess. (Its pervasiveness is the demonstration of its uniformity.).

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

I lean left AND oppose restorative justice policies for exactly this reason. It doesn't protect the good people in poor communities.

I agree there has been overzealous incarceration, especially during the 'war on drugs'. Let's avoid locking people up for drug crimes, even for selling drugs. But let's lock up the violent criminals and thieves, most of all to protect the good people and help their communities thrive.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

I lean left AND oppose restorative justice policies for exactly this reason. It doesn't protect the good people in poor communities.

I agree there has been overzealous incarceration, especially during the 'war on drugs'. Let's avoid locking people up for drug crimes, even for selling drugs. But let's lock up the violent criminals and thieves, most of all to protect the good people and help their communities thrive.

you have to be able to arrest & penalize drug dealers. otherwise you end up with open-air drug markets.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

I lean left AND oppose restorative justice policies for exactly this reason. It doesn't protect the good people in poor communities.

I agree there has been overzealous incarceration, especially during the 'war on drugs'. Let's avoid locking people up for drug crimes, even for selling drugs. But let's lock up the violent criminals and thieves, most of all to protect the good people and help their communities thrive.

you have to be able to arrest & penalize drug dealers. otherwise you end up with open-air drug markets.

Give them fines, arrest and release. That's enough deterrent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are off the rails dude. Seriously. It was assault and unregistered weapon and he has no priors. Not that it was egregious but this is not the case I would pull as an example of soft on crime.

Perfect example for why crime is so bad in this city now. Guy walks into a bar, completely unprovoked pulls a gun on the owner while he's sitting with his 4 year old son, says he's going to end him, starts attacking him, gets the gun knocked out of his hand and tries to grab it again, leaves.

And thinking he should have gotten more than 8 months means you're "off the rails" to some people here.

And the 10/5/23 library. MPD uses the street address but not the word or name library. This DC Public Library is the Woodridge Library which opened at it's current location in 2016 and cost at least 16.5 million. https://www.dclibrary.org/plan-visit/woodridge-library

Video linked by MPD which should now have 3 police officers stationed there at all times. The video is unlisted so I guess won't show up in searches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1stDErOJk&ab_channel=WashingtonDCMetropolitanPoliceDepartment

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

I lean left AND oppose restorative justice policies for exactly this reason. It doesn't protect the good people in poor communities.

I agree there has been overzealous incarceration, especially during the 'war on drugs'. Let's avoid locking people up for drug crimes, even for selling drugs. But let's lock up the violent criminals and thieves, most of all to protect the good people and help their communities thrive.

Yes, lets avoid locking up drug dealers.... God, you are so naive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

I lean left AND oppose restorative justice policies for exactly this reason. It doesn't protect the good people in poor communities.

I agree there has been overzealous incarceration, especially during the 'war on drugs'. Let's avoid locking people up for drug crimes, even for selling drugs. But let's lock up the violent criminals and thieves, most of all to protect the good people and help their communities thrive.

you have to be able to arrest & penalize drug dealers. otherwise you end up with open-air drug markets.

And resulting territorial disputes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

I lean left AND oppose restorative justice policies for exactly this reason. It doesn't protect the good people in poor communities.

I agree there has been overzealous incarceration, especially during the 'war on drugs'. Let's avoid locking people up for drug crimes, even for selling drugs. But let's lock up the violent criminals and thieves, most of all to protect the good people and help their communities thrive.

Yes, lets avoid locking up drug dealers.... God, you are so naive.

The street level kids are just kids caught up in it. The people who control the organization aren't "dealers" - they are "businessmen". If you get one of them (happens rarely) then another will step in to take their place. All locking up the street level kids accomplishes is reinforcing the same old shit over and over again for them. The way around this is legalization which removes the profit incentive from illegal drugs in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

I lean left AND oppose restorative justice policies for exactly this reason. It doesn't protect the good people in poor communities.

I agree there has been overzealous incarceration, especially during the 'war on drugs'. Let's avoid locking people up for drug crimes, even for selling drugs. But let's lock up the violent criminals and thieves, most of all to protect the good people and help their communities thrive.

Yes, lets avoid locking up drug dealers.... God, you are so naive.

The street level kids are just kids caught up in it. The people who control the organization aren't "dealers" - they are "businessmen". If you get one of them (happens rarely) then another will step in to take their place. All locking up the street level kids accomplishes is reinforcing the same old shit over and over again for them. The way around this is legalization which removes the profit incentive from illegal drugs in the first place.

I guess you have not heard of the current fentanyl crisis.
I repeat...God you are so naive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

I lean left AND oppose restorative justice policies for exactly this reason. It doesn't protect the good people in poor communities.

I agree there has been overzealous incarceration, especially during the 'war on drugs'. Let's avoid locking people up for drug crimes, even for selling drugs. But let's lock up the violent criminals and thieves, most of all to protect the good people and help their communities thrive.

Yes, lets avoid locking up drug dealers.... God, you are so naive.

The street level kids are just kids caught up in it. The people who control the organization aren't "dealers" - they are "businessmen". If you get one of them (happens rarely) then another will step in to take their place. All locking up the street level kids accomplishes is reinforcing the same old shit over and over again for them. The way around this is legalization which removes the profit incentive from illegal drugs in the first place.

I guess you have not heard of the current fentanyl crisis.
I repeat...God you are so naive.

Yep. Those drug dealers that pp wants to NOT incarcerate are cartel members and gang members.
Then, you also have the drug dealers that use "day care centers" to cover for their criminality. Just look at New York.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for posting this!

I was worried about the crime but now see it’s a manufactured problem given lots of attention by Koch Brothers devotees.

I am embarrassed I was sucked into believing the problems were so big yet relieved it’s really no worse than before.

I survived all the 90s shootings…so my view of what is “bad” is colored by that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC on track to be Baltimore in 5 years.

DC has more murders this year than Baltimore

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The story says one issue specific to DC is that our attorney general is elected, not appointed, and that our attorney general refuses to prosecute the vast majority of arrests made by the cops

can you please post the raw data of AG prosecutions vs AG denial of prosecutions? Or let me know where to get it for free? Thx.