Why the conspiracies about 15 minute cities?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

This is sheer propaganda. Please tell us, PP, how anyone can afford to live in NYC.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

This is sheer propaganda. Please tell us, PP, how anyone can afford to live in NYC.

Of course it is. But NYC makes perfect sense. Mega cities with extensive subway systems and lots of sidewalks are pretty much all one needs. That is also what the concept was supposed to be about, walking, mixed use development and trains, before the morons got ahold of it and decided that walking and mass transit were no longer the essential elements.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

This is sheer propaganda. Please tell us, PP, how anyone can afford to live in NYC.

You're right. Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

This is sheer propaganda. Please tell us, PP, how anyone can afford to live in NYC.

I have family in Madison WI. It seems like a 15-minute city. They have an excellent bike trail network and bus system. I don't think it's an especially expensive place to live.

I have family in Davis CA and they also don't need a car to get around. Lots of bike lanes and a good bus system.

And ubers-- not sure it counts as public transportation, but in my book in does. My parents got rid of their car and just use buses, walking, or ubers to get around. They love the freedom of not payiing for car maintenance, parking, gas, insurance, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

This is sheer propaganda. Please tell us, PP, how anyone can afford to live in NYC.

I have family in Madison WI. It seems like a 15-minute city. They have an excellent bike trail network and bus system. I don't think it's an especially expensive place to live.

I have family in Davis CA and they also don't need a car to get around. Lots of bike lanes and a good bus system.

And ubers-- not sure it counts as public transportation, but in my book in does. My parents got rid of their car and just use buses, walking, or ubers to get around. They love the freedom of not payiing for car maintenance, parking, gas, insurance, etc.

OMG. Can't even. Just gobsmacking.

Ubers are private cars that hire themselves out as taxis when they feel like it. In no way, shape or form can they even be close to be considered public let alone mass transportation.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

This is sheer propaganda. Please tell us, PP, how anyone can afford to live in NYC.

Lol 8.5 million people seem able to afford it. Take a visit it’s actually really crowded! Just because you can’t, don’t hate those that can.

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Like Boston’s “Big Dig” resulting in reduced carbon emissions, alleviated congestion, downtown pedestrian Greenway, and restoration of Spectacle Island.

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I love the concept. Unfortunately, US cities have a homeless problem and so you’d likely have to add some homeless tents to your idealistic images. Also, let people vote with their wallets on how they want to live. One issue with this model is grocery store accessibility since you need denser housing to really support a 15 minute walk to a grocery store, consider too elderly or disabled folks who aren’t as mobile.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

This is sheer propaganda. Please tell us, PP, how anyone can afford to live in NYC.

I have family in Madison WI. It seems like a 15-minute city. They have an excellent bike trail network and bus system. I don't think it's an especially expensive place to live.

I have family in Davis CA and they also don't need a car to get around. Lots of bike lanes and a good bus system.

And ubers-- not sure it counts as public transportation, but in my book in does. My parents got rid of their car and just use buses, walking, or ubers to get around. They love the freedom of not payiing for car maintenance, parking, gas, insurance, etc.

OMG. Can't even. Just gobsmacking.

Ubers are private cars that hire themselves out as taxis when they feel like it. In no way, shape or form can they even be close to be considered public let alone mass transportation.

It’s public transportation in the sense that restaurants are public— I don’t have to let people into my car when I’m not an Uber driver but once I log in as available to pick up members of the public I can’t deny any riders unless I have a very good reason. Just like I can exclude anyone from eating in my house but if I turn my house into a restaurant I can’t deny entry to any one.

I agree uber isn’t mass transportation but it can be “public” transportation since everyone with a smart phone can access it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

Whoever proclaimed NYC is a 15 min city lied. Or perhaps OP can clarify what now qualifies as a “15 minute city”.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

Whoever proclaimed NYC is a 15 min city lied. Or perhaps OP can clarify what now qualifies as a “15 minute city”.

In the article cited it defines 15 minute cities as " cities where most daily necessities and services, such as work, shopping, education, healthcare, and leisure, are accessible within a 15-minute walk or bike from their homes."

Why do you doubt that NYC fits this definition?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is no one who has actually lived in a 15 minute city ever talking about all the “benefits”?

Perhaps they aren’t sure their area qualifies as a 15 minute city. Is there a list of 15 minute cities in US?

I Googled, "list of 15 minute cities" and the first hit gave as examples Paris, Barcelona, New York City, and five cities in India: Bengaluru, Chennai, the Delhi NCT, Jaipur, and Kolkata.
https://www.novatr.com/blog/fifteen-minute-city

Whoever proclaimed NYC is a 15 min city lied. Or perhaps OP can clarify what now qualifies as a “15 minute city”.

What do you think qualifies as a “15 minute city” if NYC doesn’t qualify?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, let people vote with their wallets on how they want to live.

One problem with this has to do with all of the externalized costs having to do with cars/carbon emissions: environmental impacts, health impacts, lower quality of living for future generations, migration pressures from places made less livable. If we could internalize those costs so that the price of things reflects their actual costs, then the "voting with their wallets" would be a lot more instructive as to what people prefer.