Why the conspiracies about 15 minute cities?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Apparently they're a plot by liberals or the WEF to take away our cars, to lock people in their neighborhoods, to restrict freedom of movement, to take away our rights and impose totalitarianism etc.


What do you think 15 minute cities are all about?

Anyone?


Well, DC is one.

https://www.movebuddha.com/blog/15-minute-cities/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man, memories are short here.

I can remember during the throes of the pandemic, how many people were opining about living in an area that isn't so populated with people living on top of each other. I am lucky enough to live in an area like that. Yes, we have to drive a bit to get places, but I wouldn't trade my life of space and greenery and nature with a "15 minute city" ever.


+1
I see zero appeal in living near or even close to a city. No thanks.


The people in rural areas are economically much less productive.

Many of them grow your food, silly.


Many of those farmers are growing industrial crops and stuff for export. It's sad that most of the fruit and vegetables in the local supermarket isn't even US grown. It's all been corporatized, with very few family farmers left to give us the good stuff.
Anonymous
Conspiracies make stupid people feel smart, like they are in on some big secret that "the sheeple" don't know.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:15 minute cities is actually the opposite. Having amenities close by, walkable and safely bikable frees people from the expense and burden of being car dependent.


+1 If American towns looked like this people would be happier.


And if we could walk it without fear of getting shot.
Anonymous
Limiting assault weapons would help, banning concealed carry (except law enforcement) would help, sufficient background checks, would help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Limiting assault weapons would help, banning concealed carry (except law enforcement) would help, sufficient background checks, would help.


The average LE Officer isn’t carrying concealed when working
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Limiting assault weapons would help, banning concealed carry (except law enforcement) would help, sufficient background checks, would help.


The average LE Officer isn’t carrying concealed when working


I meant for off-duty or FBI type LEO.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:15 minute cities is actually the opposite. Having amenities close by, walkable and safely bikable frees people from the expense and burden of being car dependent.


+1 If American towns looked like this people would be happier.


And if we could walk it without fear of getting shot.

Why are you assuming that you’ll get shot here? What looks scary about it? The actual crime rates, calculated annually per 100,000 residents for the city pictured above/here:


Assault 5.4 (National 282.7)
Murder 0 (National 6.1)
Rape 0 (National 40.7)
Robbery 5.4 (National 135.5)
Burglary 16.2 (National 500.1)
Theft 344.8 (National 2,042.8)
Motor Vehicle Theft 95.2 (National 284)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man, memories are short here.

I can remember during the throes of the pandemic, how many people were opining about living in an area that isn't so populated with people living on top of each other. I am lucky enough to live in an area like that. Yes, we have to drive a bit to get places, but I wouldn't trade my life of space and greenery and nature with a "15 minute city" ever.


+1
I see zero appeal in living near or even close to a city. No thanks.


The people in rural areas are economically much less productive.

Many of them grow your food, silly.


Mostly huge property owners combined with a few workers, lots of enormous machines, and possibly some hard working immigrants.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't forget take away our gas stoves.


No one is "taking away" gas stoves. However, in the future, not being dependent on fossil fuels is beneficial to the air we breathe. As such, there will be strong incentives to buy induction stoves and ovens.


remember when they took away our whale oil lamps?


You'll have to pry the ambergris out of my cold, dead hands.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man, memories are short here.

I can remember during the throes of the pandemic, how many people were opining about living in an area that isn't so populated with people living on top of each other. I am lucky enough to live in an area like that. Yes, we have to drive a bit to get places, but I wouldn't trade my life of space and greenery and nature with a "15 minute city" ever.


+1
I see zero appeal in living near or even close to a city. No thanks.


The people in rural areas are economically much less productive.

Many of them grow your food, silly.


Many of those farmers are growing industrial crops and stuff for export. It's sad that most of the fruit and vegetables in the local supermarket isn't even US grown. It's all been corporatized, with very few family farmers left to give us the good stuff.


It's called seasonality. Because of agricultural trade with South America we are able to get fresh fruit and vegetables in our winter and export to them during their winter. That's a good thing and mutually beneficial. Otherwise it's nothing but root vegetables, preserves and jerkey until mid-spring.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't forget take away our gas stoves.


No one is "taking away" gas stoves. However, in the future, not being dependent on fossil fuels is beneficial to the air we breathe. As such, there will be strong incentives to buy induction stoves and ovens.


remember when they took away our whale oil lamps?


No, I don't. You can still own a whale oil lamp. Kerosene, a superior alternative, replaced whale oil. Note: Kerosene is still available.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man, memories are short here.

I can remember during the throes of the pandemic, how many people were opining about living in an area that isn't so populated with people living on top of each other. I am lucky enough to live in an area like that. Yes, we have to drive a bit to get places, but I wouldn't trade my life of space and greenery and nature with a "15 minute city" ever.


+1
I see zero appeal in living near or even close to a city. No thanks.


The people in rural areas are economically much less productive.

Many of them grow your food, silly.


Mostly huge property owners combined with a few workers, lots of enormous machines, and possibly some hard working immigrants.


I believe you misspelled underpaid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Limiting assault weapons would help, banning concealed carry (except law enforcement) would help, sufficient background checks, would help.


The average LE Officer isn’t carrying concealed when working


I meant for off-duty or FBI type LEO.


Many carry off-duty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:15 minute cities is actually the opposite. Having amenities close by, walkable and safely bikable frees people from the expense and burden of being car dependent.


+1 If American towns looked like this people would be happier.


And if we could walk it without fear of getting shot.

Why are you assuming that you’ll get shot here? What looks scary about it? The actual crime rates, calculated annually per 100,000 residents for the city pictured above/here:


Assault 5.4 (National 282.7)
Murder 0 (National 6.1)
Rape 0 (National 40.7)
Robbery 5.4 (National 135.5)
Burglary 16.2 (National 500.1)
Theft 344.8 (National 2,042.8)
Motor Vehicle Theft 95.2 (National 284)



Nothing looks scary about it. It looks perfect. I’m adding to the idea of Americans would be happier if we lived like this. Because no matter how charming, convenient, and walkable an area is, we’re not going to be happy of there are still guns everywhere.
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