New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

I’m aware of what was decided in Heller. I don’t think taking away a right for 30 days is acceptable.

This is not the way to deal with gun violence. [/quote]

You haven't given a coherent answer as to what you think the RIGHT way to deal with gun violence is. And as someone siding with gun proponents it's on you to answer that question since you're part of the community producing gun violence. [/quote]

So much misinformation.

The governor is not taking away guns. The governor is taking away open carry and concealed carry, in one county, for 30 days.

[b]Open Carry (and concealed carry) is entirely a matter of state law, not the US Constitution.[/b] For instance, Florida bans open carry, even to this day. And up until July of this year, you needed a permit for concealed carry. No 2A violations before or after July 1 were involved.[/quote]

See page 2, 20:54. The New Mexico constitution includes a right to bear arms.

New Mexico Constitution
Article II - Bill of Rights
§ 6 Right to bear arms.
Universal Citation: NM Const art II § 6
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense......

[Anonymous]

Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

Abortion is not a constitutional right. It’s not in the constitution.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

I’m aware of what was decided in Heller. I don’t think taking away a right for 30 days is acceptable.

This is not the way to deal with gun violence. [/quote]

You haven't given a coherent answer as to what you think the RIGHT way to deal with gun violence is. And as someone siding with gun proponents it's on you to answer that question since you're part of the community producing gun violence. [/quote]

So much misinformation.

The governor is not taking away guns. The governor is taking away open carry and concealed carry, in one county, for 30 days.

[b]Open Carry (and concealed carry) is entirely a matter of state law, not the US Constitution.[/b] For instance, Florida bans open carry, even to this day. And up until July of this year, you needed a permit for concealed carry. No 2A violations before or after July 1 were involved.[/quote]

See page 2, 20:54. The New Mexico constitution includes a right to bear arms.

New Mexico Constitution
Article II - Bill of Rights
§ 6 Right to bear arms.
Universal Citation: NM Const art II § 6
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense......[/quote]

I said US Constitutional law.
But there are laws on NM books about concealed carry, as well as laws about open carry in certain situations. And therefore one can reasonably say that the NM right to bear arms does not absolutely confer a right to carry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

Abortion is not a constitutional right. It’s not in the constitution.

+1

[Anonymous]

You haven't given a coherent answer as to what you think the RIGHT way to deal with gun violence is. And as someone siding with gun proponents it's on you to answer that question since you're part of the community producing gun violence.

This is the last time I going to try to fix the quotes.

I haven’t given a solution to gun violence because that’s not what I’m talking about. My opinion is that we won’t make any progress on gun violence without an amendment because the courts keep expanding gun rights. We need to stop leaving it up to them, especially this court.

All of that aside, taking away what the courts have deemed a right is not an acceptable method for dealing with anything. If riots break out again, should we suspend the right to peaceful protest for just 30 days? No. The answer is no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

Abortion is not a constitutional right. It’s not in the constitution.

+1

It isn’t now.
It was before.
Ladies got used to that feeling.
You all can too.

[Anonymous]

It NEVER was written in to the Constitution. Get used to reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

Abortion is not a constitutional right. It’s not in the constitution.

If having a gun is a constitutional right why are you not allowed to keep your gun in jail?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

Abortion is not a constitutional right. It’s not in the constitution.

Would you say that if your state banned organ transplants. It's not in the constitution? There's no constitutional right to a health procedure so a state if it finds compelling reasons could ban any medical procedure - hell, even hair dyeing -- if it decides to, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elections are coming up, time to test the emergency orders again. Make everyone mask up, take away law abiding citizens rights.

Is it going to work again this time?

Your freedom to swing your fists ends at someone else's nose.

Your freedoms end at the point where they put someone else at risk. When your freedoms end up taking away someone else's freedom (and especially, when your freedoms take away someone's greatest and most important freedom - their life) that is when controls need to come in.

The Governor took an oath to uphold the state constitution, not just the parts she likes but all of it. She is no longer doing so, and should be impeached.

If you don’t like the constitution then go through the process to change it. If the government is not going to arrest criminals, prosecute them, and if convicted lock them away, then citizens have no choice but to act to protect themselves.

She is just following what SCOTUS does. They ignore well regulated militia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elections are coming up, time to test the emergency orders again. Make everyone mask up, take away law abiding citizens rights.

Is it going to work again this time?

Your freedom to swing your fists ends at someone else's nose.

Your freedoms end at the point where they put someone else at risk. When your freedoms end up taking away someone else's freedom (and especially, when your freedoms take away someone's greatest and most important freedom - their life) that is when controls need to come in.

The Governor took an oath to uphold the state constitution, not just the parts she likes but all of it. She is no longer doing so, and should be impeached.

If you don’t like the constitution then go through the process to change it. If the government is not going to arrest criminals, prosecute them, and if convicted lock them away, then citizens have no choice but to act to protect themselves.

She is just following what SCOTUS does. They ignore well regulated militia.

You keep saying this. An introductory absolute phrase is not exclusionary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow.
Women lose a constitutional right held for a generation, and people shrug and wonder if it will matter in the voting booth next year.
Gun nuts have to leave their guns at home for a month, and LOSE THEIR MINDS!!!!

Abortion is not a constitutional right. It’s not in the constitution.

Would you say that if your state banned organ transplants. It's not in the constitution? There's no constitutional right to a health procedure so a state if it finds compelling reasons could ban any medical procedure - hell, even hair dyeing -- if it decides to, right?

It would be stupid, but yes a state could ban organ transplants or hair dyeing under the 10th Amendment. The state could also ban alcohol, although the federal government can't under the 21st amendment.

If the state's citizens don't like it, they can vote out their elected state officials who supported it.

[Anonymous]

So, if she can take away this right as outlined in NM law, what other rights can go by the wayside when a politician drunk on power decides to declare a "state of emergency?"

Free Speech?
Voting rights?
The right to assemble?

Let's just say.... for kicks and giggles...... the there was a spate of deaths in NM during abortion procedures.
Does this give the NM governor the right to "temporarily" halt abortions when abortion is legal at any point during a pregnancy in NM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Founding Fathers didn't say "well regulated militia" for no reason. They meant guns should be used for defense and security in the context of an organized and responsible militia - which you are not.

Stop talking.

No.

WELL REGULATED MILITIA. Where's the damn regulation?

Yep stop talking... regulated, in this case, means well equipped. OR Armed to the teeth, if you like, either way, you do understand the 2nd, and it has nothing to do with hunting.