any other jews get a little weirded out

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Jew but this thread has saddened me. I did not send any good wishes for Rosh Hashanah to any of my Jewish friend because I would never want to offend them.
Shame on you OP.

haha oh see this is what i mean about non-jews making everything about them, though - even their own behavior on jewish holidays. it's alllll about you, pp.

grow up. if you want to wish your friends a happy rosh hashanah, then do so. if suddenly you feel that you can't do that anymore, why not do some self-reflection on why you feel differently now than you used to. why not have a conversation with your friends - and say you read this thread, and it made you self-conscious, and now you're not sure if it's appropriate to put up a fb post telling all the christians when the jewish holidays are and what to say to your jewish friends during them. maybe they'll tell you to go for it! maybe they do sincerely love it! maybe you will learn something about how they interpret these sorts of statement, and it's not what you expect.

shame on me, lol. you people!

dp and wtf. You tell PP you're weirded out by certain expressions of holiday wishes. PP says, OK, I'll stop doing it because I don't want to offend and I'm not sure where the line is. And then you storm on to accuse PP of being immature and making everything about her. And you tell her to ask her jewish friends and basically ignore all your crap anyway.

You are a piece of work. Enjoy wallowing in feeling offended and self-righteous.

First, I never said I was offended

Second, even if I am offended, I don't think that PP and *I* are friends - so she should pay attention to her friends' reaction

Third, No one is wallowing?

Fourth, Is PP putting up guides to How To Talk To Jews On Their Weird holidays? No? Then do whatever the heck you're doing that seems normal to you and that your friends appreciate or are too nice to tell you they don't appreciate! I never said that someone saying "have an easy fast" or "happy new year" is OFFENSIVE or even noticeable - what's weird and noticeable is when Christians make themselves the communicators of Judaism, and I also find it a little weird that one SM friend, who isn't Jewish, tags all of her Jewish friends on Jewish holidays to wish us a happy holiday en masse! Like making a list of all your Jewish friends!

Fifth, If there is anyone changing their behavior based on one cranky post on this free website, gd help us all. Especially if it's something they enjoy and that they think others enjoy, too. Learn to live with people being unhappy with you or a little crabby about what you're doing sometime, without tossing out your life over it. You're not going to get a medal for every single thing you do.

But I appreciate your overreaction ON Yom Kippur of all days. I atone for finding Christians a little weird about Judaism sometimes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I try to think that any good wishes are just that, good wishes.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I try to think that any good wishes are just that, good wishes.

+1

Agree

Much more worthy things to be weirded out by

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Jew but this thread has saddened me. I did not send any good wishes for Rosh Hashanah to any of my Jewish friend because I would never want to offend them.
Shame on you OP.

haha oh see this is what i mean about non-jews making everything about them, though - even their own behavior on jewish holidays. it's alllll about you, pp.

grow up. if you want to wish your friends a happy rosh hashanah, then do so. if suddenly you feel that you can't do that anymore, why not do some self-reflection on why you feel differently now than you used to. why not have a conversation with your friends - and say you read this thread, and it made you self-conscious, and now you're not sure if it's appropriate to put up a fb post telling all the christians when the jewish holidays are and what to say to your jewish friends during them. maybe they'll tell you to go for it! maybe they do sincerely love it! maybe you will learn something about how they interpret these sorts of statement, and it's not what you expect.

shame on me, lol. you people!

dp and wtf. You tell PP you're weirded out by certain expressions of holiday wishes. PP says, OK, I'll stop doing it because I don't want to offend and I'm not sure where the line is. And then you storm on to accuse PP of being immature and making everything about her. And you tell her to ask her jewish friends and basically ignore all your crap anyway.

You are a piece of work. Enjoy wallowing in feeling offended and self-righteous.

First, I never said I was offended

Second, even if I am offended, I don't think that PP and *I* are friends - so she should pay attention to her friends' reaction

Third, No one is wallowing?

Fourth, Is PP putting up guides to How To Talk To Jews On Their Weird holidays? No? Then do whatever the heck you're doing that seems normal to you and that your friends appreciate or are too nice to tell you they don't appreciate! I never said that someone saying "have an easy fast" or "happy new year" is OFFENSIVE or even noticeable - what's weird and noticeable is when Christians make themselves the communicators of Judaism, and I also find it a little weird that one SM friend, who isn't Jewish, tags all of her Jewish friends on Jewish holidays to wish us a happy holiday en masse! Like making a list of all your Jewish friends!

Fifth, If there is anyone changing their behavior based on one cranky post on this free website, gd help us all. Especially if it's something they enjoy and that they think others enjoy, too. Learn to live with people being unhappy with you or a little crabby about what you're doing sometime, without tossing out your life over it. You're not going to get a medal for every single thing you do.

But I appreciate your overreaction ON Yom Kippur of all days. I atone for finding Christians a little weird about Judaism sometimes!

Seek help

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Jew but this thread has saddened me. I did not send any good wishes for Rosh Hashanah to any of my Jewish friend because I would never want to offend them.
Shame on you OP.

haha oh see this is what i mean about non-jews making everything about them, though - even their own behavior on jewish holidays. it's alllll about you, pp.

grow up. if you want to wish your friends a happy rosh hashanah, then do so. if suddenly you feel that you can't do that anymore, why not do some self-reflection on why you feel differently now than you used to. why not have a conversation with your friends - and say you read this thread, and it made you self-conscious, and now you're not sure if it's appropriate to put up a fb post telling all the christians when the jewish holidays are and what to say to your jewish friends during them. maybe they'll tell you to go for it! maybe they do sincerely love it! maybe you will learn something about how they interpret these sorts of statement, and it's not what you expect.

shame on me, lol. you people!

dp and wtf. You tell PP you're weirded out by certain expressions of holiday wishes. PP says, OK, I'll stop doing it because I don't want to offend and I'm not sure where the line is. And then you storm on to accuse PP of being immature and making everything about her. And you tell her to ask her jewish friends and basically ignore all your crap anyway.

You are a piece of work. Enjoy wallowing in feeling offended and self-righteous.

First, I never said I was offended

Second, even if I am offended, I don't think that PP and *I* are friends - so she should pay attention to her friends' reaction

Third, No one is wallowing?

Fourth, Is PP putting up guides to How To Talk To Jews On Their Weird holidays? No? Then do whatever the heck you're doing that seems normal to you and that your friends appreciate or are too nice to tell you they don't appreciate! I never said that someone saying "have an easy fast" or "happy new year" is OFFENSIVE or even noticeable - what's weird and noticeable is when Christians make themselves the communicators of Judaism, and I also find it a little weird that one SM friend, who isn't Jewish, tags all of her Jewish friends on Jewish holidays to wish us a happy holiday en masse! Like making a list of all your Jewish friends!

Fifth, If there is anyone changing their behavior based on one cranky post on this free website, gd help us all. Especially if it's something they enjoy and that they think others enjoy, too. Learn to live with people being unhappy with you or a little crabby about what you're doing sometime, without tossing out your life over it. You're not going to get a medal for every single thing you do.

But I appreciate your overreaction ON Yom Kippur of all days. I atone for finding Christians a little weird about Judaism sometimes!

Agreed - it is a little creepy. Is it as creepy as Christians having Passover seders? No. Is it as creepy as LDS converting your dead relatives? No. I try to assume positive intent with friends and colleagues. But totally normal to feel a little weirded out. Because we are subject matter experts on antisemitism and sometimes philosemitism feels like it’s a precursor for something scarier to come. Like a college roommate who’s very excited to meet a real Jew and then asks if you have horns (true story).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, I am pleased when any non-Jew acknowledges a Jewish holiday, tries to be inclusive, tells me they have a Jewish friend, etc. Even if they miss the mark, if their intentions are good, that is all I care about.

For thousands of years Jews have been persecuted, have had to hide their identity or outright convert

yeah, i guess at least thank gd they aren't rounding us up and putting us in camps - just being sort of awkward on social media instead. dayenu!

also, i would like to note that i did not say in my original post that this is clearly a GRAVE offense and all jews agree. i asked if anyone felt this way. some people. said yes, others said no - two jews, three opinions, as someone else said. and of course the Offended Christians upset that anyone might not fully enjoy whatever the heck they are doing.

This is so mean-spirited, OP. And, I don’t have a dog in this fight because I’m an atheist. However, I definitely give a 👍🏻 to a Jewish friend who never fails to wish me happy Easter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP’s thread complaining that nobody acknowledges her holidays but she’s forced, absolutely forced, to acknowledge others’ holidays in 3…2…1….

OP doesn’t represent all Jews. Some people just like to be constantly offended.

thank goodness OP does not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP’s thread complaining that nobody acknowledges her holidays but she’s forced, absolutely forced, to acknowledge others’ holidays in 3…2…1….

OP doesn’t represent all Jews. Some people just like to be constantly offended.

thank goodness OP does not

Yikes. One hopes you do not represent all Christians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP’s thread complaining that nobody acknowledges her holidays but she’s forced, absolutely forced, to acknowledge others’ holidays in 3…2…1….

OP doesn’t represent all Jews. Some people just like to be constantly offended.

thank goodness OP does not

Yikes. One hopes you do not represent all Christians.

Did you just assume PP's religion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Jew but this thread has saddened me. I did not send any good wishes for Rosh Hashanah to any of my Jewish friend because I would never want to offend them.
Shame on you OP.

haha oh see this is what i mean about non-jews making everything about them, though - even their own behavior on jewish holidays. it's alllll about you, pp.

grow up. if you want to wish your friends a happy rosh hashanah, then do so. if suddenly you feel that you can't do that anymore, why not do some self-reflection on why you feel differently now than you used to. why not have a conversation with your friends - and say you read this thread, and it made you self-conscious, and now you're not sure if it's appropriate to put up a fb post telling all the christians when the jewish holidays are and what to say to your jewish friends during them. maybe they'll tell you to go for it! maybe they do sincerely love it! maybe you will learn something about how they interpret these sorts of statement, and it's not what you expect.

shame on me, lol. you people!

dp and wtf. You tell PP you're weirded out by certain expressions of holiday wishes. PP says, OK, I'll stop doing it because I don't want to offend and I'm not sure where the line is. And then you storm on to accuse PP of being immature and making everything about her. And you tell her to ask her jewish friends and basically ignore all your crap anyway.

You are a piece of work. Enjoy wallowing in feeling offended and self-righteous.

First, I never said I was offended

Second, even if I am offended, I don't think that PP and *I* are friends - so she should pay attention to her friends' reaction

Third, No one is wallowing?

Fourth, Is PP putting up guides to How To Talk To Jews On Their Weird holidays? No? Then do whatever the heck you're doing that seems normal to you and that your friends appreciate or are too nice to tell you they don't appreciate! I never said that someone saying "have an easy fast" or "happy new year" is OFFENSIVE or even noticeable - what's weird and noticeable is when Christians make themselves the communicators of Judaism, and I also find it a little weird that one SM friend, who isn't Jewish, tags all of her Jewish friends on Jewish holidays to wish us a happy holiday en masse! Like making a list of all your Jewish friends!

Fifth, If there is anyone changing their behavior based on one cranky post on this free website, gd help us all. Especially if it's something they enjoy and that they think others enjoy, too. Learn to live with people being unhappy with you or a little crabby about what you're doing sometime, without tossing out your life over it. You're not going to get a medal for every single thing you do.

But I appreciate your overreaction ON Yom Kippur of all days. I atone for finding Christians a little weird about Judaism sometimes!

Agreed - it is a little creepy. Is it as creepy as Christians having Passover seders? No. Is it as creepy as LDS converting your dead relatives? No. I try to assume positive intent with friends and colleagues. But totally normal to feel a little weirded out. Because we are subject matter experts on antisemitism and sometimes philosemitism feels like it’s a precursor for something scarier to come. Like a college roommate who’s very excited to meet a real Jew and then asks if you have horns (true story).

This. Well said.

On the other hand, well-intended but awkward greetings are probably just that.

On the third hand, those posters telling Jews we don't know what we're talking about... shame on you. You're stumbling into a lot of history you don't understand. Not everything is sinister, but the centuries have given us lots of reasons to be on our guard.