Supreme Court Is Asked to Hear a New Admissions Case on Race

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

"Family values"? WTAF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

The only entitlement here is from some parents who feel that their kids are entitled to a seat at TJ.

No, no kid is entitled. There are far more qualified applicants than there are seats. The latest classes are hard-working, well-qualified students with higher average GPA than prior years.

You are fooling yourself.
Quota is unfair, and the motive is race-based.
What are you smoking btw?

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And they continue to fill the class with well-qualified, hard-working students - now from all over the region.

[Anonymous]

"well qualified"? do you mean the equity kids who are taking TJ Math 1?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

The only entitlement here is from some parents who feel that their kids are entitled to a seat at TJ.

No, no kid is entitled. There are far more qualified applicants than there are seats. The latest classes are hard-working, well-qualified students with higher average GPA than prior years.

You are fooling yourself.
Quota is unfair, and the motive is race-based.
What are you smoking btw?

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And they continue to fill the class with well-qualified, hard-working students - now from all over the region.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"well qualified"? do you mean the equity kids who are taking TJ Math 1?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

The only entitlement here is from some parents who feel that their kids are entitled to a seat at TJ.

No, no kid is entitled. There are far more qualified applicants than there are seats. The latest classes are hard-working, well-qualified students with higher average GPA than prior years.

You are fooling yourself.
Quota is unfair, and the motive is race-based.
What are you smoking btw?

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And they continue to fill the class with well-qualified, hard-working students - now from all over the region.

TJ Math 1 is a course that exists and has existed since the redesign of the math curriculum years ago.

Why are you upset that there are kids taking it?

And what is this obsession with calling students “equity kids” or “quota kids”, when on a person to person basis you genuinely have no idea who those kids are?

There have always been at least a few Black kids or Hispanic kids or kids from Prince William or poor kids or kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"well qualified"? do you mean the equity kids who are taking TJ Math 1?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

The only entitlement here is from some parents who feel that their kids are entitled to a seat at TJ.

No, no kid is entitled. There are far more qualified applicants than there are seats. The latest classes are hard-working, well-qualified students with higher average GPA than prior years.

You are fooling yourself.
Quota is unfair, and the motive is race-based.
What are you smoking btw?

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And they continue to fill the class with well-qualified, hard-working students - now from all over the region.

TJ Math 1 is a course that exists and has existed since the redesign of the math curriculum years ago.

Why are you upset that there are kids taking it?

And what is this obsession with calling students “equity kids” or “quota kids”, when on a person to person basis you genuinely have no idea who those kids are?

There have always been at least a few Black kids or Hispanic kids or kids from Prince William or poor kids or kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Shout this from the rooftops. Believe it or not, these clowns have been insisting for years that some level of affirmative action was taking place even under the old admissions process - and that the existence of any Black students at all was hard proof of such.

The same people who came on this board to claim that Black kids wouldn't want to go to TJ because people would assume that they were the product of affirmative action called them "equity kids" before the admissions changes and are calling them "equity kids" now. The difference is that now they get to go to school with more kids who share their experiences and as a group they get to prove that they're worthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"well qualified"? do you mean the equity kids who are taking TJ Math 1?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

The only entitlement here is from some parents who feel that their kids are entitled to a seat at TJ.

No, no kid is entitled. There are far more qualified applicants than there are seats. The latest classes are hard-working, well-qualified students with higher average GPA than prior years.

You are fooling yourself.
Quota is unfair, and the motive is race-based.
What are you smoking btw?

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And they continue to fill the class with well-qualified, hard-working students - now from all over the region.

TJ Math 1 is a course that exists and has existed since the redesign of the math curriculum years ago.

Why are you upset that there are kids taking it?

And what is this obsession with calling students “equity kids” or “quota kids”, when on a person to person basis you genuinely have no idea who those kids are?

There have always been at least a few Black kids or Hispanic kids or kids from Prince William or poor kids or kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

I don't have any problem with Black kids or Hispanic kids or from any background to get into TJ with merit. Indeed, I truthfully congrats them and they are well deserved. Future for them are bright since they learned the value of hard work.

How do you know the kids who get into TJ by the quota system are qualified under the old system?
Btw, why do you think FCPS fights so hard to change the system?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"well qualified"? do you mean the equity kids who are taking TJ Math 1?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

The only entitlement here is from some parents who feel that their kids are entitled to a seat at TJ.

No, no kid is entitled. There are far more qualified applicants than there are seats. The latest classes are hard-working, well-qualified students with higher average GPA than prior years.

You are fooling yourself.
Quota is unfair, and the motive is race-based.
What are you smoking btw?

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And they continue to fill the class with well-qualified, hard-working students - now from all over the region.

TJ Math 1 is a course that exists and has existed since the redesign of the math curriculum years ago.

Why are you upset that there are kids taking it?

And what is this obsession with calling students “equity kids” or “quota kids”, when on a person to person basis you genuinely have no idea who those kids are?

There have always been at least a few Black kids or Hispanic kids or kids from Prince William or poor kids or kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Shout this from the rooftops. Believe it or not, these clowns have been insisting for years that some level of affirmative action was taking place even under the old admissions process - and that the existence of any Black students at all was hard proof of such.

The same people who came on this board to claim that Black kids wouldn't want to go to TJ because people would assume that they were the product of affirmative action called them "equity kids" before the admissions changes and are calling them "equity kids" now. The difference is that now they get to go to school with more kids who share their experiences and as a group they get to prove that they're worthy.

Selective racists like you people are destroying humanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

What are you smoking?

"Family values"? WTAF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"well qualified"? do you mean the equity kids who are taking TJ Math 1?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just build more TJs if so many students are interested.

The new building cost $100M to the taxpayers. Private capital filled it with equipment.

More funds than that amount was allocated each for building/expanding Herndon High, McLean High, and recent high schools. Constructing a new high school building isn't a significant obstacle. A stem high school stature isn't determined by its physical structure after all, but by the advanced curriculum offered and admitting highly capable students that can master it. Going by the yearly number of applications to TJ, it's evident that over 60% of interest in advanced STEM field comes from a single minority community: Asian Americans. Yet, there appears to be no political inclination to address the needs of this community. Asian Americans have been advocating for the establishment of TJ2 for several decades.

Democratic school board has betrayed the trust of Asian Americans by forcefully reducing their representation at TJ through elimination of merit based admission criteria. Glenn Youngkin is the sole individual who has openly aligned with the notion that lottery-based admissions have no relevance in advanced STEM fields.

+1
They just love free rides and entitlement. Destroying family values, hard work, and meritocracy.

The only entitlement here is from some parents who feel that their kids are entitled to a seat at TJ.

No, no kid is entitled. There are far more qualified applicants than there are seats. The latest classes are hard-working, well-qualified students with higher average GPA than prior years.

You are fooling yourself.
Quota is unfair, and the motive is race-based.
What are you smoking btw?

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And they continue to fill the class with well-qualified, hard-working students - now from all over the region.

TJ Math 1 is a course that exists and has existed since the redesign of the math curriculum years ago.

Why are you upset that there are kids taking it?

And what is this obsession with calling students “equity kids” or “quota kids”, when on a person to person basis you genuinely have no idea who those kids are?

There have always been at least a few Black kids or Hispanic kids or kids from Prince William or poor kids or kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Shout this from the rooftops. Believe it or not, these clowns have been insisting for years that some level of affirmative action was taking place even under the old admissions process - and that the existence of any Black students at all was hard proof of such.

The same people who came on this board to claim that Black kids wouldn't want to go to TJ because people would assume that they were the product of affirmative action called them "equity kids" before the admissions changes and are calling them "equity kids" now. The difference is that now they get to go to school with more kids who share their experiences and as a group they get to prove that they're worthy.

You are the same crowns who always use affirmative action as an excuse for avoid real competition.
Sorry loser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Why is it unacceptably small? Why is it better to have 100+ kids taking algebra 1 in 8th grade vs less than 10?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Why is it unacceptably small? Why is it better to have 100+ kids taking algebra 1 in 8th grade vs less than 10?

Wait a minute. Does TJ really offer Algebra 1 in ninth grade?
My son's in middle schools has 71% Algebra 1 participation rate.
I thought TJ is for "STEM-gifted" students.
Does that mean TJ accepts the "bottom 29%" kid?

Shoutout for the "bottom 29%" gifted kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Why is it unacceptably small? Why is it better to have 100+ kids taking algebra 1 in 8th grade vs less than 10?

Wait a minute. Does TJ really offer Algebra 1 in ninth grade?
My son's in middle schools has 71% Algebra 1 participation rate.
I thought TJ is for "STEM-gifted" students.
Does that mean TJ accepts the "bottom 29%" kid?

Shoutout for the "bottom 29%" gifted kids.

They said in 8th, not 9th. TJ has no students taking Alg 1 in ninth grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Why is it unacceptably small? Why is it better to have 100+ kids taking algebra 1 in 8th grade vs less than 10?

It wasn't less than 10, but that's besides the point.

If it is that small, then you have a de facto requirement that kids must be in Geometry in 8th grade in order to have any real hope of qualifying for TJ. And if that's going to be the case, then FCPS should just make that the requirement and be done with it.

They didn't, so yes, that number of kids is isolating and unacceptably small.

By the way - I wouldn't mind if Geometry were the requirement, as long as it were promulgated as such and was offered to students at all middle schools in the catchment area without having to leave their building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Why is it unacceptably small? Why is it better to have 100+ kids taking algebra 1 in 8th grade vs less than 10?

Wait a minute. Does TJ really offer Algebra 1 in ninth grade?
My son's in middle schools has 71% Algebra 1 participation rate.
I thought TJ is for "STEM-gifted" students.
Does that mean TJ accepts the "bottom 29%" kid?

Shoutout for the "bottom 29%" gifted kids.

They said in 8th, not 9th. TJ has no students taking Alg 1 in ninth grade.

They do have Alg 1 in their course catalog.

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/reportPanel/503/10/0/0/0/1;title=reportPanelSideNav

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

kids who entered in TJ Math 1 or its equivalent. It was an unacceptably small number, but those kids were selected by the old admissions process that you love to refer to as “merit-based”.

How do you know which of those kids wouldn’t have gotten in under the old process? They’re kids, not statistics.

Why is it unacceptably small? Why is it better to have 100+ kids taking algebra 1 in 8th grade vs less than 10?

Wait a minute. Does TJ really offer Algebra 1 in ninth grade?
My son's in middle schools has 71% Algebra 1 participation rate.
I thought TJ is for "STEM-gifted" students.
Does that mean TJ accepts the "bottom 29%" kid?

Shoutout for the "bottom 29%" gifted kids.

They said in 8th, not 9th. TJ has no students taking Alg 1 in ninth grade.

They do have Alg 1 in their course catalog.

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/reportPanel/503/10/0/0/0/1;title=reportPanelSideNav

And... Math 1 is basically geometry, which is typical material for above-averaged students in 8th grade.

Math 1 TJ HN (314351)

Grades 9

Credit one-half / weighted +0.5

Students will study geometric topics in depth, with a focus on building critical thinking and reasoning skills. Topics of study include inductive and deductive reasoning, understanding logic statements, writing proofs, parallel and perpendicular lines and their properties, congruent triangles and similarity, properties of triangles, quadrilaterals, and circles. The process standard focus will be reasoning.