Which U.S. Presidents had genuinely good, solid marriages?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Donald and Melania's is easily the worst marriage.

He will probably trade her in for number 4 soon enough.

He's way too old & fat for that. He scored the prize with Melania. Not gonna get something more enviable now.

In a little while, he can probably find one of those women who become penpals, then wives, of prisoners.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jill and Joe Biden

Yes!
Ashley is a blessing and a light on the horizon.

No one gives Joe and his children grace for the trauma they endured when they lost his/their wife/mother son/brother.
Everyone reacts to trauma in a different way.
May you never experience this personally.

My family did and reacted way differently than Biden. Kids became first, last and only priority. Later on, my dad was still able to have a massively important career in his field notwithstanding. When I first met Hunter 20 or so years ago I just felt sorry for him. Never met his older brother but I don’t think their father’s path was the best one for them.

Bully for you. My mother died when I was four and my father put me in a boarding school when I was five. He would have when I was four but they wouldn't accept me so he hired a live in nurse/nanny. He was military and went back to his overseas post.

Every single person reacts differently to calamity. Stop judging, you sanctimonious cretin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just from outward appearances in my lifetime:

1. Jimmy and Rosalynn
2. Barack and Michelle
3. George W and Laura
4. Joe and Jill
5. George HW and Barbara
6. Ronald and Nancy
7. Bill and Hillary
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Donald and Melania

In what universe Bill and Hillary's marriage defined as a good marriage?

Tammy Wynette's "Stand by Your Man" universe.

Melania will have a chance to stand by her man when all the sentences come in for the dotard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just from outward appearances in my lifetime:

1. Jimmy and Rosalynn
2. Barack and Michelle
3. George W and Laura
4. Joe and Jill
5. George HW and Barbara
6. Ronald and Nancy
7. Bill and Hillary
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Donald and Melania

In what universe Bill and Hillary's marriage defined as a good marriage?

Tammy Wynette's "Stand by Your Man" universe.

Melania will have a chance to stand by her man when all the sentences come in for the dotard.

I wonder if convictions are covered in the prenup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just from outward appearances in my lifetime:

1. Jimmy and Rosalynn
2. Barack and Michelle
3. George W and Laura
4. Joe and Jill
5. George HW and Barbara
6. Ronald and Nancy
7. Bill and Hillary
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Donald and Melania

In what universe Bill and Hillary's marriage defined as a good marriage?

Tammy Wynette's "Stand by Your Man" universe.

Exactly. Hillary lost all respect after Monica.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just from outward appearances in my lifetime:

1. Jimmy and Rosalynn
2. Barack and Michelle
3. George W and Laura
4. Joe and Jill
5. George HW and Barbara
6. Ronald and Nancy
7. Bill and Hillary
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Donald and Melania

In what universe Bill and Hillary's marriage defined as a good marriage?

In the same universe that Donald and Melania have a good one. They are all getting something they need out of the marriage.

Yeah no.

Melania needed a visa and money. She got those.

What did Hillary need from Bill?

Melania got more out of that marriage than Hilarry did out of hers.

Melania's marriage is a good marriage for an escort turned trophy wife.

Hilary would have been a power house without Bill. See Condoleeza Rice. Hilary lost her dignity to that nasty man for nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just from outward appearances in my lifetime:

1. Jimmy and Rosalynn
2. Barack and Michelle
3. George W and Laura
4. Joe and Jill
5. George HW and Barbara
6. Ronald and Nancy
7. Bill and Hillary
.
.
.
.
.
Donald and Melania

In what universe Bill and Hillary's marriage defined as a good marriage?

Tammy Wynette's "Stand by Your Man" universe.

Melania will have a chance to stand by her man when all the sentences come in for the dotard.

That would be the best times in her marriage - she won't have to sleep with his fat a$$ while he is in jail. I bet you she is praying fir a conviction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Joe had just been elected Senator. His family stepped in to help and he took the train back and forth.

He loved those boys. And when Jill came along, she loved those boys too.

You do realize that wonderful people can raise kids who have addiction problems? My ILs are a good example of this. Both their sons have addiction problems - my husband has been sober for 9.5 years (alcohol), my BIL for 5 or so (drugs). My MIL was a kindergarten teacher most of her adult life. They were involved in their church. They did everything for their kids and I dare you to blame them for their son’s issues. They were both just born with a predisposition to addiction. It had nothing to do with whether they loved them or spent enough time with them.

+1 this

Neither one of you have a clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joe had just been elected Senator. His family stepped in to help and he took the train back and forth.

He loved those boys. And when Jill came along, she loved those boys too.

You do realize that wonderful people can raise kids who have addiction problems? My ILs are a good example of this. Both their sons have addiction problems - my husband has been sober for 9.5 years (alcohol), my BIL for 5 or so (drugs). My MIL was a kindergarten teacher most of her adult life. They were involved in their church. They did everything for their kids and I dare you to blame them for their son’s issues. They were both just born with a predisposition to addiction. It had nothing to do with whether they loved them or spent enough time with them.

+1 this

Neither one of you have a clue.

Oh, really? So my husband’s family is an example of nurture NOT having anything to do with the addiction problems of children, and I know nothing?

I have actually met multiple members of the Biden family and I know nothing?

How about you just admit that you are talking out your a$$ about being positive that Joe is the reason Hunter has problems and move on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joe had just been elected Senator. His family stepped in to help and he took the train back and forth.

He loved those boys. And when Jill came along, she loved those boys too.

You do realize that wonderful people can raise kids who have addiction problems? My ILs are a good example of this. Both their sons have addiction problems - my husband has been sober for 9.5 years (alcohol), my BIL for 5 or so (drugs). My MIL was a kindergarten teacher most of her adult life. They were involved in their church. They did everything for their kids and I dare you to blame them for their son’s issues. They were both just born with a predisposition to addiction. It had nothing to do with whether they loved them or spent enough time with them.

+1 this

Neither one of you have a clue.

Oh, really? So my husband’s family is an example of nurture NOT having anything to do with the addiction problems of children, and I know nothing?

I have actually met multiple members of the Biden family and I know nothing?

How about you just admit that you are talking out your a$$ about being positive that Joe is the reason Hunter has problems and move on

“Met” is a basis for knowledge and understanding. Umm humm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joe had just been elected Senator. His family stepped in to help and he took the train back and forth.

He loved those boys. And when Jill came along, she loved those boys too.

You do realize that wonderful people can raise kids who have addiction problems? My ILs are a good example of this. Both their sons have addiction problems - my husband has been sober for 9.5 years (alcohol), my BIL for 5 or so (drugs). My MIL was a kindergarten teacher most of her adult life. They were involved in their church. They did everything for their kids and I dare you to blame them for their son’s issues. They were both just born with a predisposition to addiction. It had nothing to do with whether they loved them or spent enough time with them.

+1 this

Neither one of you have a clue.

Oh, really? So my husband’s family is an example of nurture NOT having anything to do with the addiction problems of children, and I know nothing?

I have actually met multiple members of the Biden family and I know nothing?

How about you just admit that you are talking out your a$$ about being positive that Joe is the reason Hunter has problems and move on

“Met” is a basis for knowledge and understanding. Umm humm.

I will clarify - met and spent time with. I’m not just talking about a handshake or a photo op

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joe had just been elected Senator. His family stepped in to help and he took the train back and forth.

He loved those boys. And when Jill came along, she loved those boys too.

You do realize that wonderful people can raise kids who have addiction problems? My ILs are a good example of this. Both their sons have addiction problems - my husband has been sober for 9.5 years (alcohol), my BIL for 5 or so (drugs). My MIL was a kindergarten teacher most of her adult life. They were involved in their church. They did everything for their kids and I dare you to blame them for their son’s issues. They were both just born with a predisposition to addiction. It had nothing to do with whether they loved them or spent enough time with them.

+1 this

Neither one of you have a clue.

Oh, really? So my husband’s family is an example of nurture NOT having anything to do with the addiction problems of children, and I know nothing?

I have actually met multiple members of the Biden family and I know nothing?

How about you just admit that you are talking out your a$$ about being positive that Joe is the reason Hunter has problems and move on

We became a soviet union: you cannot say anything negative about our dear leader or it will get erased immediately. Does not matter that it is true. Biden has to have a positive image in order for his party to run him again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just from outward appearances in my lifetime:

1. Jimmy and Rosalynn
2. Barack and Michelle
3. George W and Laura
4. Joe and Jill
5. George HW and Barbara
6. Ronald and Nancy
7. Bill and Hillary
.
.
.
.
.
Donald and Melania

In what universe Bill and Hillary's marriage defined as a good marriage?

Tammy Wynette's "Stand by Your Man" universe.

Melania will have a chance to stand by her man when all the sentences come in for the dotard.

That would be the best times in her marriage - she won't have to sleep with his fat a$$ while he is in jail. I bet you she is praying fir a conviction.

What makes you think that they are still having sex? I don't think this happening, so his incarceration will have no impact on her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just from outward appearances in my lifetime:

1. Jimmy and Rosalynn
2. Barack and Michelle
3. George W and Laura
4. Joe and Jill
5. George HW and Barbara
6. Ronald and Nancy
7. Bill and Hillary
.
.
.
.
.
Donald and Melania

In what universe Bill and Hillary's marriage defined as a good marriage?

In the same universe that Donald and Melania have a good one. They are all getting something they need out of the marriage.

Yeah no.

Melania needed a visa and money. She got those.

What did Hillary need from Bill?

Melania got more out of that marriage than Hilarry did out of hers.

Melania's marriage is a good marriage for an escort turned trophy wife.

Hilary would have been a power house without Bill. See Condoleeza Rice. Hilary lost her dignity to that nasty man for nothing.

Uh, a Senate seat and Secretary of State? First ever woman to be nominated as a major party's POTUS candidate?

Hillary's success is intertwined with Bill's success. I do not necessarily think Hillary "would have been a power house without Bill." That's not the way the world works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joe had just been elected Senator. His family stepped in to help and he took the train back and forth.

He loved those boys. And when Jill came along, she loved those boys too.

You do realize that wonderful people can raise kids who have addiction problems? My ILs are a good example of this. Both their sons have addiction problems - my husband has been sober for 9.5 years (alcohol), my BIL for 5 or so (drugs). My MIL was a kindergarten teacher most of her adult life. They were involved in their church. They did everything for their kids and I dare you to blame them for their son’s issues. They were both just born with a predisposition to addiction. It had nothing to do with whether they loved them or spent enough time with them.

+1 this

Neither one of you have a clue.

Oh, really? So my husband’s family is an example of nurture NOT having anything to do with the addiction problems of children, and I know nothing?

I have actually met multiple members of the Biden family and I know nothing?

How about you just admit that you are talking out your a$$ about being positive that Joe is the reason Hunter has problems and move on

We became a soviet union: you cannot say anything negative about our dear leader or it will get erased immediately. Does not matter that it is true. Biden has to have a positive image in order for his party to run him again.

That's a pretty big leap. No one said you can't have negative things to say about Biden.

You are just spouting nonsense about being positive that Biden's kids had drug problems BECAUSE of him. Unless you have solid proof of this, like Hunter or Ashley told you directly that they blamed their dad 100% for their problems, back off this nonsense.

People struggle with addictions for any number of reasons. Do some stem from family problems? Sure. But some have absolutely zero to do with how people were raised. As the spouse of someone who has struggled with an addiction, I have heard a LOT of stories and reasons.