Is 2024 about trans/crime/dei vs abortion and book banning type of issues?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

I think this is right. Sadly both parties have basically jumped the shark. Neither party is acting in a way that serves the majority of this country, and that’s just sad. I was leaning right up until Roe, but I feel too strongly about that to risk it so will probably vote dem. I suspect there are many others like me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

Same.

The Democrat party has implemented policies on crime which put my kids (who will soon be going off to college) in danger.

I cannot vote for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

I think this is right. Sadly both parties have basically jumped the shark. Neither party is acting in a way that serves the majority of this country, and that’s just sad. I was leaning right up until Roe, but I feel too strongly about that to risk it so will probably vote dem. I suspect there are many others like me.

There are millions of pro choice voters. The right thinks we are going to just shove all our daughters backwards in time to the good old days when they had no reproductive rights? Think again. The midterms showed that the voters are not interested in such nonsense. Not at all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My prediction... top issue is the economy.

Abortion will become an issue if the candidates take extreme positions. For example, I was leaning towards DeSantis and then he went for a 6 week ban. Too far. If he had done a 12 or 14 week ban, it would have been a non-issue. Most voters are like this-- neither want total freedom to about up to kindergarten nor restrictions that effectively ban it in most normal cases.

Ukraine and Taiwan will be an issue, along with positions related to America's waning influence abroad (especially if the dollar continues to fall out of favor).

Border security will be a major issue.

Crime will be a major issue.

Woke issues will become an issue bc people are getting tired of it. But I think the kind of people who will vote on these issues are not swing voters anyway. I'm a swing voter who has had it with woke stuff, but it won't sway my vote either way.

I agree with alot of this, except the economy is only going to be an issue if we're in a recession. I don't know who to vote for. On the one hand, 6 week abortion band are so overwhelming dumb and not based in any science whatsoever that I can't vote for anyone who has such an extreme position. On the other hand, I am mad about the erosion of women's protections by the trans women community. It's infuriating that I'm supposed to welcome biological men into what were supposed to be the spaces carved out for us. It's also anti science.

Basically I think democrats lack common sense and have never been able to figure out cause and effect very well. But I want abortion access and gun control. Republicans are unhinged about abortion and guns, but at least they don't try and gas light me all the time over sex issues. They were also objectively right about the best way to deal with Covid and usually right about crime.

All I want is a moderate candidate who understands China is a threat.

The Dems will win with or without you. The right offers nothing

JD Vance, Abbott, DeSantis and kemp says hello.

It's pretty dire when you have to hold up Rs winning in Texas, Ohio, and Florida as proof that the party is doing well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

Same.

The Democrat party has implemented policies on crime which put my kids (who will soon be going off to college) in danger.

I cannot vote for them.

I cannot understand how someone can think that way. I mean we are going to likely go into WWIII now because of that stupid teen in Mass who was a Maga not to mention all the killings in the US. And then there was Uvalde with no local police able to do anything (and the killer was a maga) and the maga solution is to arm teachers. I mean I'm concerned about the border but the border is almost all republican controlled territory. It's not like they can't do something about it themselves if they want. And there were no improvements under Trump there either. Nor with the economy and debt. Covid deaths killed off a good portion of the elderly. I don't see how someone views this side as somehow "safer"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

Same.

The Democrat party has implemented policies on crime which put my kids (who will soon be going off to college) in danger.

I cannot vote for them.

Ha, ha, ha! My kids are refusing to go to schools in states that allow any boozoo to carry a gun. My daughter won't touch a school states where her rights are less than a dog. But sure, blame Dems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

Same.

The Democrat party has implemented policies on crime which put my kids (who will soon be going off to college) in danger.

I cannot vote for them.

I cannot understand how someone can think that way. I mean we are going to likely go into WWIII now because of that stupid teen in Mass who was a Maga not to mention all the killings in the US. And then there was Uvalde with no local police able to do anything (and the killer was a maga) and the maga solution is to arm teachers. I mean I'm concerned about the border but the border is almost all republican controlled territory. It's not like they can't do something about it themselves if they want. And there were no improvements under Trump there either. Nor with the economy and debt. Covid deaths killed off a good portion of the elderly. I don't see how someone views this side as somehow "safer"

On the other hand, so many large cities are focusing heavily on criminal justice reforms which amount to letting criminals remain on the street to commit more crimes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

Same.

The Democrat party has implemented policies on crime which put my kids (who will soon be going off to college) in danger.

I cannot vote for them.

Ha, ha, ha! My kids are refusing to go to schools in states that allow any boozoo to carry a gun. My daughter won't touch a school states where her rights are less than a dog. But sure, blame Dems.

Are they looking at safe schools in areas where guns are heavily regulated like Chicago or Temple?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

Same.

The Democrat party has implemented policies on crime which put my kids (who will soon be going off to college) in danger.

I cannot vote for them.

I cannot understand how someone can think that way. I mean we are going to likely go into WWIII now because of that stupid teen in Mass who was a Maga not to mention all the killings in the US. And then there was Uvalde with no local police able to do anything (and the killer was a maga) and the maga solution is to arm teachers. I mean I'm concerned about the border but the border is almost all republican controlled territory. It's not like they can't do something about it themselves if they want. And there were no improvements under Trump there either. Nor with the economy and debt. Covid deaths killed off a good portion of the elderly. I don't see how someone views this side as somehow "safer"

On the other hand, so many large cities are focusing heavily on criminal justice reforms which amount to letting criminals remain on the street to commit more crimes

First, two wrongs don't make a right. Second, most people in the cities if they want to fix crime want to do this locally. Most guns are bought from red states all the way from Texas and NC to NYC so it goes both ways. What exactly is the crime from NYC doing to Topeka and the surrounding suburbs? I feel like any city crime is mainly kept in the city. Republicans in my state want to allow guns on campus for entire state verses letting the colleges figure this out themselves. If you don't want your kids to go to college in the city, they have other options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility.

Same.

The Democrat party has implemented policies on crime which put my kids (who will soon be going off to college) in danger.

I cannot vote for them.

Ha, ha, ha! My kids are refusing to go to schools in states that allow any boozoo to carry a gun. My daughter won't touch a school states where her rights are less than a dog. But sure, blame Dems.

Are they looking at safe schools in areas where guns are heavily regulated like Chicago or Temple?

Those schools have had crime for decades. It's now becoming impossible to find a safe college because of both democratic led and republican led crime.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I mean really are the major issues for presidential voters going to be people’s distaste with how lenient the democrats are on crime with their progressive criminal justice reforms that lead to increased crime, and how vocal they are about minute subsets of the American public (trans people) vs. how insane right wing politicians have become with banning abortion and are trying to basically remove the ability to vote for many people through their policies?

It’s sort of woke blowback annoyance from voters vs their fear of repressive, regressive religiously motivated anti-abortion right wingers. Is that a relatively coherent summation?[/quote]

Broadly speaking, yes. It looks like it will come down to which is the lesser of two evils: the unhealthy obsession with wokery/DEI/CRT/defund police/exploding black crime/trans activism/denial of biological reality versus banning abortion.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the abortion banning people.

I have to admit I never thought the Democrats would end up where they are now. They have more in common with the intelligent design is science people of 1995 than intelligence, logic, and sensibility. [/quote]

Same.

The Democrat party has implemented policies on crime which put my kids (who will soon be going off to college) in danger.

I cannot vote for them.[/quote]

Ha, ha, ha! My kids are refusing to go to schools in states that allow any boozoo to carry a gun. My daughter won't touch a school states where her rights are less than a dog. But sure, blame Dems.[/quote]

Are they looking at safe schools in areas where guns are heavily regulated like Chicago or Temple?[/quote]

Where do you think the guns come from genius?

[Anonymous]

The House has passed the Protect Women's Sports Act today. The vote was along party lines.

Why do Democrats not support women in sports?

It will now head to the Senate. They should vote to protect women's sports - if Schumer allows a vote.
Biden has said he will veto it.
And, to add insult to injury - Biden plans to alter Title IX to allow people to compete on sports teams that align with their gender identity.

Don't tell us that Democrats support women. They don't.

[Anonymous]

My Gen Z DD’s, who are 21 & 25, have voted in every election since they turned 18. They are very politically active & abortion access is their biggest issue that they vote on. Very proud

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The House has passed the Protect Women's Sports Act today. The vote was along party lines.

Why do Democrats not support women in sports?

It will now head to the Senate. They should vote to protect women's sports - if Schumer allows a vote.
Biden has said he will veto it.
And, to add insult to injury - Biden plans to alter Title IX to allow people to compete on sports teams that align with their gender identity.

Don't tell us that Democrats support women. They don't.

You are trying so hard to make this issue happen but there is no way a few trans athletes are going to distract from overturning roe. That was an utter disaster and we all know it and are going to vote accordingly. But you keep posting all your woke or anti woke or ultra woke or bespoke woke garbage as nauseum if you must.

We know how we are voting and it is pro choice and it is important. You should join us because it is important for everyone, not just Dems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The House has passed the Protect Women's Sports Act today. The vote was along party lines.

Why do Democrats not support women in sports?

It will now head to the Senate. They should vote to protect women's sports - if Schumer allows a vote.
Biden has said he will veto it.
And, to add insult to injury - Biden plans to alter Title IX to allow people to compete on sports teams that align with their gender identity.

Don't tell us that Democrats support women. They don't.

You are trying so hard to make this issue happen but there is no way a few trans athletes are going to distract from overturning roe. That was an utter disaster and we all know it and are going to vote accordingly. But you keep posting all your woke or anti woke or ultra woke or bespoke woke garbage as nauseum if you must.

We know how we are voting and it is pro choice and it is important. You should join us because it is important for everyone, not just Dems.

DP. Yes, Title IX is dead. Abortion is the issue that will decide the upcoming elections. And a side effect, intended or unintended, is the end of Title IX.