Riley Gaines attacked after Saving Women's Sports speech at SF State Univ

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Anonymous wrote:All of the f-n drama for what must be like 8 athletes. People are losing their marbles about the wrong thing.

But its not 8 athletes.....its 8 athletes competing against hundreds of female athletes.

I think the problem is even these "8" have an outsized number reaching the top in women's sports when the whole point of Title IX was to allow women to have actual competitive sports where they can reach their max potential. Even in the Olympics, a 45 year old trans woman was able to compete in weightlifting. She didn't win but it's certainly not at all possible for an amateur weightlifting female to transition to a man at 45 and then make the men's US weightlifting team over 20 year olds.

It amateur sport. There are 220,000 women college “athletes”. In the general population 0.6% identify as transgender. There should be 1,300 trans athletes in college sports. There are 32 tran athletes in college. Two have made the Olympics this cycle.

If you want to make to Olympics or a college team preform better. The bottom of the rosters are the ones getting cut but the number is way way under 1%. This is not an issue.

If it is a non-issue, why are they beating up this female swimmer over it? Seems like it's enough of an issue to the trans community to engage in violence against anyone who offers a contrary opinion.

Let’s be clear: They are physically assaulting a female athlete because that athlete is female and has opinions. This is a violent misogynist movement whose end goal is the subjugation of women.

Disagree. And the videos posted-at least the couple I’m seeing-are showing shouting and getting close to her but I didn’t see violence. Maybe I haven’t clicked the right link. I’m surprised the man who tried to murder her (according to a PP) hasn’t been identified yet.

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I see yelling, I see swearing, I see someone acknowledging that she's crying, but I see no physical violence. That's not to say that it wasn't scary for her, or that it happened prior to the filming, but this doesn't show it. That's also not to say that violence wouldn't have occurred if the police weren't there.

I agree with other PP too. We've retreated so far to the extreme positions that there was no time to have the meaningful conversation about the complicated and nuanced parts of this.

Riley Gaines has stated that she was hit twice.

But you are almost certainly going to claim she is lying.

I almost certainly acknowledged that it may have taken place before and/or after filming. Didn’t I? I’m responding to the video that was posted.

Come on. You were trying to minimize what happened. You spent a lot of words talking about how she might have been scared but you didn’t see violence and just saw yelling and swearing.

Are you okay with violence against women in the name of trans rights or not? Yes or no? Or is taking a stance against violence against women too “extreme” for you?

You are super unhinged. I'm not OK with violence against women in the name of anything. But this is why no discussion can take place. you come out swinging to someone who literally said, hey, it's not on the video but it sure may have happened before or after. But there is no physical violence ON THE VIDEO. There was a protest that was getting out of hand, and police protected her, thankfully. I acknowledged that it was likely scary for her, but even that is me making assumptions isn't it? And that it may have happened before or after is also me making assumptions, but that fits with what you want to hear. I don't follow this woman, so I don't know what she said happened. This video was posted. People are reacting to it. What is the matter with you?

You are going out of your way to avoid the truth. That is why discussions can’t be had. Because one side is bound and determined to hide the truth.

I suspect PP would not be hemming and hawing if a cis woman reported that she was physically assaulted by a man, even in the absence of video evidence of the specific assault incident, if the woman provided video similar to the Gaines incident. It would be a foregone conclusion; not some evidentiary excursion.

I'm not hemming and hawing about anything. I don't make sh!t up that isn't posted in a thread that people are reacting to. I take your word for it that you read something that Riley Gaines said she was physically assaulted. I didn't read that. Why don't you post that instead of insisting that I should believe everything you are claiming is true. I'm not hiding any truth. If she has video of the assault, go for it. Hell, videos of assaults on women have been taken and STILL people don't believe it, so I understand that ridiculousness. But someone posted a video. Said look at the violent assault, wait, potential attempted murder of Riley Gaines, and some of us are saying, I don't see it. If you have it, great. If not, also great, because violence against women can occur without video evidence. *Which I frickin' acknowledged in my post you nutbag.*