Incident on FCPS middle school bus

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Anonymous wrote:People this is important, kids of bullies are bullies themselves, and know the system. There must be a stop to this. Our kids must be kept safe.

Has there been an incident since? Has there been a problem on the bus? Nope. Sounds like the behavior has stopped.

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Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

LOL you have got to be kidding.

A kid capable of this type of assault has bigger issue and does not simply "learn" their lesson.

What bigger issue does this kid have?

What happened immediately before this incident? Was she provoked?

I don't care if she was provoked. There is no excuse for a physical altercation. She was not acting in self defense as he was not fighting back.

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Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

LOL you have got to be kidding.

A kid capable of this type of assault has bigger issue and does not simply "learn" their lesson.

What bigger issue does this kid have?

What happened immediately before this incident? Was she provoked?

I don't care if she was provoked. There is no excuse for a physical altercation. She was not acting in self defense as he was not fighting back.

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Typical trope from bully parent.

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Anonymous wrote:lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit.

This sucks for sure, but what law did FCPS break?

They did not enforce the protective order. Can you read?

WRONG--they did NOT break any law. Can YOU read? Schools are not legally responsible for enforcing a protective order.

From the link posted on page 1:

According to Virginia law, schools must notify essential staff once there is a protective order.

A guidance from the Virginia Department of Education says although schools are not legally responsible for enforcing a court order, safety should still be a priority. Officials can develop a safety plan, principals can collaborate with a parent, and a team can determine steps if the order is violated.

The may not be "legally responsible", but they still could have enforced it. And, they should have taken action if the girl was still botheringn the kid.

And, choking is quite different than hitting.

If both kids are from Fort Belvoir, and this bus incident occurred on Fort Belvoir, I think I'd be taking action there if I were the parent. Commanding officers can have quite a bit of influence on family situations. If it happend off of Fort Belvoir, I'm not sure. I taught in DOD schools--but Fort Belvoir kids are in FCPS schools.

And you don't know that FCPS didn't take steps to enforce it to the greatest extent possible. All you're hearing from is the parent of the victim. For all we know, classes were changed and seats in the cafeteria were changed. Perhaps the commanding officer has already been contacted. The schools work to have a good relationship with them.

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Thank you. PP here. Whatever information you have about the family or situation is welcome.

I know nothing about the family, but what I read here and in the news link. Someone earlier posted that the kids probably both live on Belvoir. I was just sharing some experience I had with DOD schools.

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Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

LOL you have got to be kidding.

A kid capable of this type of assault has bigger issue and does not simply "learn" their lesson.

What bigger issue does this kid have?

What happened immediately before this incident? Was she provoked?

I don't care if she was provoked. There is no excuse for a physical altercation. She was not acting in self defense as he was not fighting back.

Is the PP actually suggesting that attack was… *provoked*??? That poor boy is going to be haunted by this for the rest of his life. As me how I know…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People this is important, kids of bullies are bullies themselves, and know the system. There must be a stop to this. Our kids must be kept safe.

The solution is to expel kids after a single physical incident?

Extreme overreaction that will backfire when all of those kids - children! - who made a single mistake end up with no good options in life.

She choked a child! That’s a step way beyond “single mistake”! She could have killed him.

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Fcps is turning into dangerous minds movie

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https://www.nbc12.com/2020/12/03/new-virginia-laws-seek-close-school-to-prison-pipeline/

Is it not against the law for FCPS to take harsh discipline against the attacker?

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Anonymous wrote:People this is important, kids of bullies are bullies themselves, and know the system. There must be a stop to this. Our kids must be kept safe.

The solution is to expel kids after a single physical incident?

Extreme overreaction that will backfire when all of those kids - children! - who made a single mistake end up with no good options in life.

She choked a child! That’s a step way beyond “single mistake”! She could have killed him.

"Killed"? GMAFB.

This extreme overreaction to a single incident is very suspicious. Wonder why...

You are an idiot.

"Killed"? Yes, you sound like a very fine person.

I stand by my case. DP here. You are in fact an idiot if you don't know that kid could have been killed. Keep talking. You are doing yourself wonders.

You are full of crap. We can all see what happened in the video. The kid wasn't in danger of being "killed" FFS.

You rolling your eyes at A&B is really all we need to know. Keep talking.

I'm rolling my eyes at the ridiculous PP who is full of crap.

What is your issue? Advocating violence? WTF is anything handled that way? You are excusing this behavior. You are the problem.

If you are lucky enough to attend FCPS (or any school) you should be able to get along without committing a crime. Why do you refuse to understand this, and insist on trying to derail the conversation? Too close to home?

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Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

Are you fing kidding me? She choked him and even left bruising on his throat. An overreaction?!

If this was a DV situation, would you say the same thing?

Your comment is so outrageous that you have got to be a sht stirrer.

Kids get in fights in school ALL of the time. You think they should ALL be thrown out of school and charged with crimes over a single incident?

I’m the quotes PP.

Yes, I absolutely think kids should be expelled if they are in fights.

In this case, yes, that girl should be charged with a crime. She choked him, assaulted him and left bruising that is absolutely unacceptable in any event. If your partner, or even a stranger did that to you, you bet you would want them charged with a crime. Don’t pretend otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

Are you fing kidding me? She choked him and even left bruising on his throat. An overreaction?!

If this was a DV situation, would you say the same thing?

Your comment is so outrageous that you have got to be a sht stirrer.

Kids get in fights in school ALL of the time. You think they should ALL be thrown out of school and charged with crimes over a single incident?

I’m the quotes PP.

Yes, I absolutely think kids should be expelled if they are in fights.

In this case, yes, that girl should be charged with a crime. She choked him, assaulted him and left bruising that is absolutely unacceptable in any event. If your partner, or even a stranger did that to you, you bet you would want them charged with a crime. Don’t pretend otherwise.

I don't think we should treat middle schoolers like adults.

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Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

Are you fing kidding me? She choked him and even left bruising on his throat. An overreaction?!

If this was a DV situation, would you say the same thing?

Your comment is so outrageous that you have got to be a sht stirrer.

Kids get in fights in school ALL of the time. You think they should ALL be thrown out of school and charged with crimes over a single incident?

I’m the quotes PP.

Yes, I absolutely think kids should be expelled if they are in fights.

In this case, yes, that girl should be charged with a crime. She choked him, assaulted him and left bruising that is absolutely unacceptable in any event. If your partner, or even a stranger did that to you, you bet you would want them charged with a crime. Don’t pretend otherwise.

I don't think we should treat middle schoolers like adults.

That's why Bryant exists. She shouldn't be allowed in a mainstream school again

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Anonymous wrote:This kind of kid has serious issues. There is no way she should be allowed to terrorize other children. Absolutely unbelievable and disgusting.

"This kind of kid"?

Gross. She's a kid who made a mistake. Disgusting that some posters are ready to string her up over it.

And, according to the report, continued to harrass the kid.

They said they passed in the hallway. That's not really harassment.

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Anonymous wrote:This kind of kid has serious issues. There is no way she should be allowed to terrorize other children. Absolutely unbelievable and disgusting.

"This kind of kid"?

Gross. She's a kid who made a mistake. Disgusting that some posters are ready to string her up over it.

And, according to the report, continued to harrass the kid.

They said they passed in the hallway. That's not really harassment.

Just stop defending the perp. Stop.