Incident on FCPS middle school bus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents fail to parent.

Hello, Let’s just be honest here. In this case, public school administrators clearly refused to obey court orders to keep the perpetrator 50 feet away from her target.

How familiar is all of this? Protect criminal violence while victims rights are obliterated. That’s just how Democrats roll apparently.

This is what I can't stop thinking these days. The victims. So many processes and protections for the accused but the victim is a side note.

[Anonymous]

pull your kids out of these hell holes.

[Anonymous]

I can’t help but wonder whether the situation might have played out differently had a boy strangled a girl. I wouldn’t be surprised if part of why he didn’t go on the offensive is because he knows he can’t be violent with a girl. He needs to be protected from her. Why on earth aren’t public schools legally required to enforce orders of protection when attendance is mandatory? That makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but wonder whether the situation might have played out differently had a boy strangled a girl. I wouldn’t be surprised if part of why he didn’t go on the offensive is because he knows he can’t be violent with a girl. He needs to be protected from her. Why on earth aren’t public schools legally required to enforce orders of protection when attendance is mandatory? That makes no sense.

OP here

That's why I posted this.

[Anonymous]

Prefacing this by saying all my sympathies are with the boy who was attacked. But I'd bet good money the parents of the girl will counter-sue (or turn around and sue FCPS, if sued by the boy's parents) for breach of privacy or failure to support their child. Why do you think we have this hellhole of zero accountability? It's in no small part due to parents insisting that their child be treated the same as everyone else. Look at the statements from the family of the child who shot his teacher - he has "severe disabiltiies" and "deserves just as much sympathy" (even though they failed to comply with the school's order to accompany him to class). The downstream effect of that lobbying/legal pressure is a school system that can't enforce punishments or provide separate educational programs even if it wants to, because the funding and staffing and legal advice don't support it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t help but wonder whether the situation might have played out differently had a boy strangled a girl. I wouldn’t be surprised if part of why he didn’t go on the offensive is because he knows he can’t be violent with a girl. He needs to be protected from her. Why on earth aren’t public schools legally required to enforce orders of protection when attendance is mandatory? That makes no sense.

Without a doubt, it would’ve been handled differently.

And if these were adults, you better believe that protective order would have to be enforced. A man, choking a woman, you bet they would be in jail right now. My heart goes out to this boy and his family.

[Anonymous]

The buses in FCPS for K-8 could be a free for all. Both my kids were bus patrols in grade school, and they dealt with some crazy stuff -- even with kindergarteners. Bus drivers trying to get control over these kids would be called the B word, or worse.

I am not surprised school districts everywhere cannot find enough bus drivers. Older people are smart to avoid the hassle. The way kids behave now, it is simply not worth the risk to earn $19/hour.

[Anonymous]

It's time to make the parents of these behavior problem kids get more involved and be inconvenienced. This girl should not be in a mainstream setting, nor should she be allowed on a bus. If the parents don't want her to be in a specialized setting, the school should be allowed to overrule them.

I have a kid with special needs and the school doesn't hesitate to inconvenience me for stupid crap.This girl's parents should have to drive her back and forth to a behavior based program they can't "opt" her out of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's time to make the parents of these behavior problem kids get more involved and be inconvenienced. This girl should not be in a mainstream setting, nor should she be allowed on a bus. If the parents don't want her to be in a specialized setting, the school should be allowed to overrule them.

I have a kid with special needs and the school doesn't hesitate to inconvenience me for stupid crap.This girl's parents should have to drive her back and forth to a behavior based program they can't "opt" her out of.

In reality, they wouldn’t take her to school either at Whitman or a special school, she’d be declared truant or whatever they do these days, she wouldn’t attend school (are there any consequences to the parents for that? Probably not anymore!) and then they’d cry to a supportive media outlet a few years later that their kid was bullied, stuck up for herself, got in fights but she was a good kid really, and got expelled but we had no way to take her to school, how could we, we have to work and she was in middle school and couldn’t drive herself, we need less punishment for youthful offenders, etc. etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

[Anonymous]

It’s time to start fining parents of children who commit assaults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

In retrospect, the restraining order was warranted. Hopefully the girl suffers criminal penalties for violating it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

What if someone you worked with, who also lived in your area as would be the case with kids attending the same school, attacked you at work? You wouldn’t file charges and seek a restraining order? Wowwwww.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

In retrospect, the restraining order was warranted. Hopefully the girl suffers criminal penalties for violating it

Huh? The restraining order came AFTER this incident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.