Black Conservatives

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Anonymous wrote:As a black person who votes dem but leans conservative on plenty of issues, this thread reaffirms to me that DC white upper class liberals are some of the most vile human beings in existence. Not to say that Republicans in general or Democrats from other states / backgrounds don’t have their issues, but you lot disgust me 🤢 .

You really think the GQP gives a damn about you? Then you’re a dupe. A useful idiot to them. You have one choice and one choice only. If you can’t see that then you really are too stupid to save.

And you just proved PP’s point. We care about PP not because he/she checks a box. We care because PP is a PERSON first and foremost - someone with independent thoughts, feelings, and actions. We want to nurture the independence, not suppress it. Our nation was started by free thinkers and will end as we know it if people think in lockstep. Rebellion is to be encouraged, not suppressed.

Conservatism is, by definition, about maintaining the status quo and being in lockstep. No matter how much they may fancy themselves to be "rebels." The only thing they are rebelling against is progress, they'd just as soon go back to their version of the 1950s.

If that were true, McCarthy would not have had such a tough time.

The votes against McCarthy aren’t conservative. They’re radical and authoritarian.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's be fair. Republicans doubled the number of black congress members in the most recent election. Doubled. Now there are 4. That's twice as many as two, which is how many there were before.

It's pathetic that it's only 4.

That's 0.9% of the House Republicans that are black.

Blacks make up 14.6% of America. The Republicans need to put at least 28 more blacks into House seats to make their side of the House representative of what America actually looks like. But I guess that won't happen for as long as Republicans continue gerrymandering, disenfranchisng and otherwise screwing blacks over.

Here's your opportunity to fix some of that if you actually want any credibility.

Why do leftists only see color?

Not the comeback you think it is. We don't "only see color." But we do recognize the REALITY that America is an ethnically and culturally diverse nation, and we represent it as such - as opposed to the GOP, which is 99% homogenous white culture.

The question is, why don't Republicans represent the REAL America?

Don’t kid yourself that Democrats represent the “real” America either. The entire Democratic power structure from donors to lobbyists to staffers to consultants to PAC directors is white. Rare black tokens in places of visibility who answer to white people and everyone else Black acting as lowly foot soldiers do not representation make. Democrats look good on diversity only in comparison to Republicans. We have TWO white-dominated parties that exploit racial minorities, especially Black people, in this country.

This is untrue and typical conservative projection. Democrats go out of their way to give opportunities and put minorities in the positions of power. In the House, 25.3% of the House Democrats are black, which exceeds the paltry 0.9% of the Republicans, to even it out to 14.9% overall, which is in fact reflective of black population percentage in America.

Are you really representing the hard-earned wins of Black politicians as opportunities Democrats “gave” them?

Bingo. Democrats very much like to think of themselves as "benefactors" of blacks. Without them (they think) blacks would have nothing, no successes to speak of. That mentality makes me want to vomit, and I'm a POC.

True this. Even the publics treat black students as if they walked in the door less intelligent than other kids, which is decidedly NOT true.

That depends on circumstances, because in some circumstances it decidedly IS true. It's a fact that many lower income black families live in antiquated and substandard housing that still has lead paint, along with a much higher incidence of things like polluting industries and environmental toxins that contribute to a whole host of health and developmental issues including ones that result in lower IQ and other disabilities, and along with it, poor educational outcomes. There are literally hundreds of studies and reports on this. Educate yourself on environmental justice issues before making your bold yet blank-slate insinuations of supposed "liberal racism."

DP. Wow. Charles Murray was run off of Middlebury for daring to state as much. But I guess it’s perfectly ok for liberals to claim blacks have a “lower IQ” without getting themselves cancelled. Because you “mean well.” So disgusting and disrespectful.

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Anonymous wrote:Black voters dont owe their vote to any party. Democrats have got to stop heaping abuse on black people for daring to step out of line politically. There are many reasons someone may be conservative or liberal that have nothing to do with race.

Black Americans owe everything to the Democratic party. It is literally the only thing standing between them and a re-imposition of the 1850’s.

Ah yes, the "they will put you back in chains!" line. We all know Republicans would not put Jim Crow laws in place. But it is telling that you want black people to live in fear.

Ahem. GOP-appointed Wisconsin elections commissioner Bob Spindell, one of the fake Trump electors, is literally bragging about voter suppression in communities of color in Milwaukee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remarkable thread. Reads like an RNC plant.

Oh, don’t you wish. Welcome to the racist minds of your liberal peers. I’m conservative and have requested this thread to be deleted several times - but the liberal moderators leave it up. That should tell you all you need to know, right there.

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Anonymous wrote:Black voters dont owe their vote to any party. Democrats have got to stop heaping abuse on black people for daring to step out of line politically. There are many reasons someone may be conservative or liberal that have nothing to do with race.

Black Americans owe everything to the Democratic party. It is literally the only thing standing between them and a re-imposition of the 1850’s.

Ah yes, the "they will put you back in chains!" line. We all know Republicans would not put Jim Crow laws in place. But it is telling that you want black people to live in fear.

“In the City of Milwaukee, with the 4th Congressional District Republican Party working very closely with the RPW, RNC, Republican Assembly & Senate Campaign Committees, Statewide Campaigns and RPMC in the Black and Hispanic areas, we can be especially proud of the City of Milwaukee (80.2% Dem Vote) casting 37,000 less votes than cast in the 2018 election with the major reduction happening in the overwhelming Black and Hispanic areas.”
“…this great and important decrease in Democrat votes in the City” was due to a “well thought out multi-faceted plan,” Spindell bragged, that included:

“Biting Black Radio Negative Commercials run last few weeks of the election cycle straight at Dem Candidates…
A substantial & very effective Republican Coordinated Election Integrity program resulting with lots of Republican paid Election Judges & trained Observers & extremely significant continued Court Litigation.”

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2023/01/10/murphys-law-gop-leader-thrilled-to-suppress-city-vote/

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Anonymous wrote:Black voters dont owe their vote to any party. Democrats have got to stop heaping abuse on black people for daring to step out of line politically. There are many reasons someone may be conservative or liberal that have nothing to do with race.

Black Americans owe everything to the Democratic party. It is literally the only thing standing between them and a re-imposition of the 1850’s.

Ah yes, the "they will put you back in chains!" line. We all know Republicans would not put Jim Crow laws in place. But it is telling that you want black people to live in fear.

Ahem. GOP-appointed Wisconsin elections commissioner Bob Spindell, one of the fake Trump electors, is literally bragging about voter suppression in communities of color in Milwaukee.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's be fair. Republicans doubled the number of black congress members in the most recent election. Doubled. Now there are 4. That's twice as many as two, which is how many there were before.

It's pathetic that it's only 4.

That's 0.9% of the House Republicans that are black.

Blacks make up 14.6% of America. The Republicans need to put at least 28 more blacks into House seats to make their side of the House representative of what America actually looks like. But I guess that won't happen for as long as Republicans continue gerrymandering, disenfranchisng and otherwise screwing blacks over.

Here's your opportunity to fix some of that if you actually want any credibility.

Why do leftists only see color?

Not the comeback you think it is. We don't "only see color." But we do recognize the REALITY that America is an ethnically and culturally diverse nation, and we represent it as such - as opposed to the GOP, which is 99% homogenous white culture.

The question is, why don't Republicans represent the REAL America?

Don’t kid yourself that Democrats represent the “real” America either. The entire Democratic power structure from donors to lobbyists to staffers to consultants to PAC directors is white. Rare black tokens in places of visibility who answer to white people and everyone else Black acting as lowly foot soldiers do not representation make. Democrats look good on diversity only in comparison to Republicans. We have TWO white-dominated parties that exploit racial minorities, especially Black people, in this country.

This is untrue and typical conservative projection. Democrats go out of their way to give opportunities and put minorities in the positions of power. In the House, 25.3% of the House Democrats are black, which exceeds the paltry 0.9% of the Republicans, to even it out to 14.9% overall, which is in fact reflective of black population percentage in America.

Are you really representing the hard-earned wins of Black politicians as opportunities Democrats “gave” them?

Bingo. Democrats very much like to think of themselves as "benefactors" of blacks. Without them (they think) blacks would have nothing, no successes to speak of. That mentality makes me want to vomit, and I'm a POC.

True this. Even the publics treat black students as if they walked in the door less intelligent than other kids, which is decidedly NOT true.

That depends on circumstances, because in some circumstances it decidedly IS true. It's a fact that many lower income black families live in antiquated and substandard housing that still has lead paint, along with a much higher incidence of things like polluting industries and environmental toxins that contribute to a whole host of health and developmental issues including ones that result in lower IQ and other disabilities, and along with it, poor educational outcomes. There are literally hundreds of studies and reports on this. Educate yourself on environmental justice issues before making your bold yet blank-slate insinuations of supposed "liberal racism."

DP. Wow. Charles Murray was run off of Middlebury for daring to state as much. But I guess it’s perfectly ok for liberals to claim blacks have a “lower IQ” without getting themselves cancelled. Because you “mean well.” So disgusting and disrespectful.

I have to wonder about YOUR IQ, PP. Either you lack reading comprehension or are disgustingly dishonest in your grotesque misrepresentation of what was said above.

Again, did you miss the part about LEAD PAINT? That's not about race, and doesn't matter if it's black kids, white kids, asian kids, jewish kids - if you have kids of ANY kind in dilapidated neighborhoods where they get exposed to high lead levels, they will suffer regardless of race. That's just a FACT. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0013935199940458

And, it's also a FACT that redlining and other discriminatory housing practices have forced a lot of low income blacks to have to live in that kind of dilapidated housing.

Do you get it now? Or are you going to persist in your IDIOCY?

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Anonymous wrote:Remarkable thread. Reads like an RNC plant.

Oh, don’t you wish. Welcome to the racist minds of your liberal peers. I’m conservative and have requested this thread to be deleted several times - but the liberal moderators leave it up. That should tell you all you need to know, right there.

You must be the right wing idiot that doesn't think lead paint harms IQ and instead throws up nonsense about "liberal racism."
Just stop. You're embarrasing yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Black voters dont owe their vote to any party. Democrats have got to stop heaping abuse on black people for daring to step out of line politically. There are many reasons someone may be conservative or liberal that have nothing to do with race.

Black Americans owe everything to the Democratic party. It is literally the only thing standing between them and a re-imposition of the 1850’s.

Ah yes, the "they will put you back in chains!" line. We all know Republicans would not put Jim Crow laws in place. But it is telling that you want black people to live in fear.

Ahem. GOP-appointed Wisconsin elections commissioner Bob Spindell, one of the fake Trump electors, is literally bragging about voter suppression in communities of color in Milwaukee.

Source?

What news sources do you read? I bet it's all bullshit right wing media.

Here's one of many sources which are no doubt more factual, credible and reliable than whatever tripe rag you read. https://pbswisconsin.org/news-item/wisconsin-elections-commission-member-robert-spindell-blasted-for-voting-comments/

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to accept that individual black Americans can be conservative, and that such conservatives would be drawn to the Republican Party.

Because conservatism has defined itself as turning back civil rights progress and womens rights progress and denying that there was ever a need for either.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's be fair. Republicans doubled the number of black congress members in the most recent election. Doubled. Now there are 4. That's twice as many as two, which is how many there were before.

It's pathetic that it's only 4.

That's 0.9% of the House Republicans that are black.

Blacks make up 14.6% of America. The Republicans need to put at least 28 more blacks into House seats to make their side of the House representative of what America actually looks like. But I guess that won't happen for as long as Republicans continue gerrymandering, disenfranchisng and otherwise screwing blacks over.

Here's your opportunity to fix some of that if you actually want any credibility.

Why do leftists only see color?

Not the comeback you think it is. We don't "only see color." But we do recognize the REALITY that America is an ethnically and culturally diverse nation, and we represent it as such - as opposed to the GOP, which is 99% homogenous white culture.

The question is, why don't Republicans represent the REAL America?

Don’t kid yourself that Democrats represent the “real” America either. The entire Democratic power structure from donors to lobbyists to staffers to consultants to PAC directors is white. Rare black tokens in places of visibility who answer to white people and everyone else Black acting as lowly foot soldiers do not representation make. Democrats look good on diversity only in comparison to Republicans. We have TWO white-dominated parties that exploit racial minorities, especially Black people, in this country.

This is untrue and typical conservative projection. Democrats go out of their way to give opportunities and put minorities in the positions of power. In the House, 25.3% of the House Democrats are black, which exceeds the paltry 0.9% of the Republicans, to even it out to 14.9% overall, which is in fact reflective of black population percentage in America.

Are you really representing the hard-earned wins of Black politicians as opportunities Democrats “gave” them?

Bingo. Democrats very much like to think of themselves as "benefactors" of blacks. Without them (they think) blacks would have nothing, no successes to speak of. That mentality makes me want to vomit, and I'm a POC.

Black Democrats are not outside the political process or the government. Black Democrats and others vote for Black and White and Hispanic and Asian and Native American Democrats who support and represent them and their political ideals. Look at the House, Senate, state and local government officials. There are thousands of Democrats in office who are earnestly representing the interests of POC. How can anyone not see that?

No one has claimed otherwise. What IS a fact, however, is that Democrats consistently and constantly pat themselves on the back whenever a black politician is elected. Why? Because of the color of their skin. Period.

Wait didn't McCarthy get upset there weren't any black Republicans in the GOP conference? Lol you people jump at the opportunity to tout and troy out a black republican any chance you get.

You turned Tim Scott into a mainstream character

Tim Scott is a mainstream ‘character’ because Tim Scott is damn good at this job. Anyone who hears Donalds speak will say the same - that man’s composure under fire blows me away - he’s steady, composed, and stays on target. Again, damn good. Brilliant neurosurgeon Ben Carson, hated by the left because he is religious, and made to seem unintelligent as a result. The man’s achievements mean nothing to Democrats. Instead he’s just a ‘stupid, religious fool’ to them.

Scott is an ineffective Senator who is good at covering for reactionary Republican politics and policies.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to accept that individual black Americans can be conservative, and that such conservatives would be drawn to the Republican Party.

Because conservatism has defined itself as turning back civil rights progress and womens rights progress and denying that there was ever a need for either.

Cute.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or have they gotten weird? Gone are the days of Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell and Edward Brooke and now you have goobers like Diamond and Silk, Candice Owens, Byron Donalds, Burgess Owens, etc.

They are so quick to proclaim they're not like the others because they are Republicans and they want a gold star for it because they think differently. It's like, nobody cares, you aren't special.

Also no, black people will.never vote Republican en masse again. Enjoy being a puppet.

By 2023 it's quite obvious that Dems never walk the talk. Anything they touch gets worse, especially for minorities.

The real question IMO is why so many blacks still vote Dem. It's like a form of community suicide.

Black voters are not stupid. They know that Democrats represent their interests and concerns while Republicans oppose them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to accept that individual black Americans can be conservative, and that such conservatives would be drawn to the Republican Party.

Because conservatism has defined itself as turning back civil rights progress and womens rights progress and denying that there was ever a need for either.

And that’s been the defining ideology of the Republican Party since 1960.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or have they gotten weird? Gone are the days of Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell and Edward Brooke and now you have goobers like Diamond and Silk, Candice Owens, Byron Donalds, Burgess Owens, etc.

They are so quick to proclaim they're not like the others because they are Republicans and they want a gold star for it because they think differently. It's like, nobody cares, you aren't special.

Also no, black people will.never vote Republican en masse again. Enjoy being a puppet.

By 2023 it's quite obvious that Dems never walk the talk. Anything they touch gets worse, especially for minorities.

The real question IMO is why so many blacks still vote Dem. It's like a form of community suicide.

Black voters are not stupid. They know that Democrats represent their interests and concerns while Republicans oppose them.

Hahahahaha.

When you say "represent" you surely mean "talk and talk and talk and do nothing to improve things."