Crime was DOWN everywhere in DC in 2022… except Ward 3 where it increased

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Typical of many discussions of crime. Perception is not reality.

Cue someone posting that DC police don't ever take police reports seriously so statistics are meaningless.

Well, the reality is that people in Ward 3 who perceive that crime is getting worse are in fact correct, because they are experience higher violent crime. While people in the rest of the city are experience lower violent crime, which is what spurs comments like yours. It might be worthwhile to consider that there can actually be a factual basis that drives peoples perceptions.


Nobody is perceiving an increase of 0.6%.


That's the figure Ward 3 overall for last year.

Year-to-date Ward 3 is up 48 percent.
https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:Ward:3

See below for the Connecticut Ave corridor:

Year-to-date total crime in ANC 3C (Cleveland Park) has more than doubled (i.e. up more than 100 percent).
https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:ANC:3C


Year-to-date total crime in ANC 3F (Forest Hills) is up 55 percent over last year.
https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:ANC:3F


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Typical of many discussions of crime. Perception is not reality.

Cue someone posting that DC police don't ever take police reports seriously so statistics are meaningless.


It’s more than perception. Since the DC resident population has decreased, combined with fewer MD/VA residents coming into the District to work each day, we are experiencing much more crime on a per capita basis.

Both sides have their stats, of course. And we can argue who’s are better. But at the end of the day you can’t argue that the quality of life in DC has decreased significantly. Whether it’s the pharmacy in upper NW locking up basic consumer products, the odor of marijuana in the parks where kids play, or national retail chains closing locations due to crime. These are huge red flags for policymakers, which they appear more than happy to ignore. There will come a tipping point when residents with means will flee. It always happens. It happened to NYC in the 1970s, DC in the 1980s and it is happening to San Francisco now.

At the end of the day I trust Tony Williams about 1000% times more than any of the current council members. So I trust his opinion on this issue.


I am not a fan of the current administration, but my quality of life in DC hasn't really gone down. That would just be a lie. Yes, I smell more weed, but it doesn't ruin my day. I live in NE so my products have always been locked up. Which national retail chains closed due to crime? Don't say City Winery because they used that as an excuse. The place sucked and the businesses around it are thriving.

I want crime to go down, but I'm not going overboard either.


Good for you for fighting the good fight but you're wasting your time. You're trying to reason with someone who genuinely believes "I had to smell a smell I personally dislike while walking outside" is a "significant decrease" in their quality of life. This person does not live in reality, nothing you say will penetrate their veil of hysteria.

Nuisances are now good everyone!

Talk about being out of touch.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Typical of many discussions of crime. Perception is not reality.

Cue someone posting that DC police don't ever take police reports seriously so statistics are meaningless.

Well, the reality is that people in Ward 3 who perceive that crime is getting worse are in fact correct, because they are experience higher violent crime. While people in the rest of the city are experience lower violent crime, which is what spurs comments like yours. It might be worthwhile to consider that there can actually be a factual basis that drives peoples perceptions.


Nobody is perceiving an increase of 0.6%.


That's the figure Ward 3 overall for last year.

Year-to-date Ward 3 is up 48 percent.
https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:Ward:3

See below for the Connecticut Ave corridor:

Year-to-date total crime in ANC 3C (Cleveland Park) has more than doubled (i.e. up more than 100 percent).
https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:ANC:3C


Year-to-date total crime in ANC 3F (Forest Hills) is up 55 percent over last year.
https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:ANC:3F




Bowser, Frumin, Allen etc should be out every day standing on the corners, riding the buses, taking night walks. Let them see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Typical of many discussions of crime. Perception is not reality.

Cue someone posting that DC police don't ever take police reports seriously so statistics are meaningless.


It’s more than perception. Since the DC resident population has decreased, combined with fewer MD/VA residents coming into the District to work each day, we are experiencing much more crime on a per capita basis.

Both sides have their stats, of course. And we can argue who’s are better. But at the end of the day you can’t argue that the quality of life in DC has decreased significantly. Whether it’s the pharmacy in upper NW locking up basic consumer products, the odor of marijuana in the parks where kids play, or national retail chains closing locations due to crime. These are huge red flags for policymakers, which they appear more than happy to ignore. There will come a tipping point when residents with means will flee. It always happens. It happened to NYC in the 1970s, DC in the 1980s and it is happening to San Francisco now.

At the end of the day I trust Tony Williams about 1000% times more than any of the current council members. So I trust his opinion on this issue.


I am not a fan of the current administration, but my quality of life in DC hasn't really gone down. That would just be a lie. Yes, I smell more weed, but it doesn't ruin my day. I live in NE so my products have always been locked up. Which national retail chains closed due to crime? Don't say City Winery because they used that as an excuse. The place sucked and the businesses around it are thriving.

I want crime to go down, but I'm not going overboard either.


Good for you for fighting the good fight but you're wasting your time. You're trying to reason with someone who genuinely believes "I had to smell a smell I personally dislike while walking outside" is a "significant decrease" in their quality of life. This person does not live in reality, nothing you say will penetrate their veil of hysteria.

Nuisances are now good everyone!

Talk about being out of touch.


We just love the smell of pot wafting about in public places. Some of the same folks who demand bike lanes for safety apparently see nothing wrong with lots of motor vehicle operators driving around high. When a pedestrian can smell it coming from a passing car, it's a public safety problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a walk around the city. Talk to people. Crime is up by a ton. Police are just making it harder and harder to report it. I personally went to the police station to report a crime a couple months ago. There were two people in line in front of me. No reports were actually filed as the police basically refused to do anything. This is the same as I have seen on the streets. These stats are fully fake.


+1 I think these stats reflect that Ward 3 residents are more likely to be lawyers, have lawyers, or be taken seriously by the police. Crime was significantly up in my small slice of Ward 4 but the refrain was constant: we found bullet casings and shattered windows, but didn't see anything, so nothing to report. Lucky if it even gets filed as property crime, mostly it just disappears. My cleaner's car was broken into twice in 3 months during the few hour stretch it was parked during the afternoon - the first time she didn't file a report the second time she got a lecture about leaving anything in her car, and the cop still didn't make a report.


Crime in Ward 3 is generally up by a lot, 100 percent in Cleveland Park and up more than 50 percent in Forest Hills. Look at the MPD Crime stat maps. There's a big spike in crime on the "Voucher Corridor", Connecticut Avenue apartment buildings.
Anonymous
Perhaps Connecticut Ave should be known as the "Crime Corridor" or the "Via Voucher."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Take a walk around the city. Talk to people. Crime is up by a ton. Police are just making it harder and harder to report it. I personally went to the police station to report a crime a couple months ago. There were two people in line in front of me. No reports were actually filed as the police basically refused to do anything. This is the same as I have seen on the streets. These stats are fully fake.


How are they allowed to not take a report?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a walk around the city. Talk to people. Crime is up by a ton. Police are just making it harder and harder to report it. I personally went to the police station to report a crime a couple months ago. There were two people in line in front of me. No reports were actually filed as the police basically refused to do anything. This is the same as I have seen on the streets. These stats are fully fake.


How are they allowed to not take a report?


The mayor and council have made it extremely clear they don’t want police arresting anyone and will have police who do their jobs prosecuted. You got what you voted for. Bask in it.
Anonymous
A woman in Cleveland Park spent 90 minutes reporting a n indecent exposure event. When she called to follow up, the system indicated that she had left before the police arrived. A total, blatant lie! Fortunately she called them out on it publicly, but how many times does this happen?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a walk around the city. Talk to people. Crime is up by a ton. Police are just making it harder and harder to report it. I personally went to the police station to report a crime a couple months ago. There were two people in line in front of me. No reports were actually filed as the police basically refused to do anything. This is the same as I have seen on the streets. These stats are fully fake.


How are they allowed to not take a report?


The mayor and council have made it extremely clear they don’t want police arresting anyone and will have police who do their jobs prosecuted. You got what you voted for. Bask in it.


Fewer DC police and more “violence interrupters.”
Anonymous
This is what Ward 3 for All looks like. Elections have consequences.
Anonymous
Welcoming more vibrancy in Ward 3. We feel better already.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
We just love the smell of pot wafting about in public places. Some of the same folks who demand bike lanes for safety apparently see nothing wrong with lots of motor vehicle operators driving around high. When a pedestrian can smell it coming from a passing car, it's a public safety problem.


The only alternative to this is re-criminalizing MJ, which is never going to happen. So quit crying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
We just love the smell of pot wafting about in public places. Some of the same folks who demand bike lanes for safety apparently see nothing wrong with lots of motor vehicle operators driving around high. When a pedestrian can smell it coming from a passing car, it's a public safety problem.


The only alternative to this is re-criminalizing MJ, which is never going to happen. So quit crying.


No. Smoking pot in pubic space is illegal, as if driving a vehicle while using it. The police need to enforce the damn law!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
We just love the smell of pot wafting about in public places. Some of the same folks who demand bike lanes for safety apparently see nothing wrong with lots of motor vehicle operators driving around high. When a pedestrian can smell it coming from a passing car, it's a public safety problem.


The only alternative to this is re-criminalizing MJ, which is never going to happen. So quit crying.


No. Smoking pot in pubic space is illegal, as if driving a vehicle while using it. The police need to enforce the damn law!


Just imagine how awesome it would have been if the ANCs had their way and stacked dispensaries along Connecticut Ave.
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