Algebra 1 in 5th

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Anonymous wrote:Are you making assumptions about No VA CC? It sounds like you know very little about it. Their class sizes cap out at 25, generally, and they need a minimum students to enroll for the class to go forward. That number changes depending on the class.

I’m sure NVCC is wonderful and your friend, the dean of dual enrollment is a very nice lady. It just wasn’t a good fit for our son.

Well, to be fair, it couldn’t have been a fit for him because he couldn’t have been accepted there. But, how are you being helpful to others if you won’t post the name of the school so others who ask about Algebra in middle elementary school have a chance at it? If there are 100 kids per class, I’m not sure how this outs you in any way. Esp bc any future attendees would be well behind your child.

He rejected them first.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Could you at least name the school system? It doesn't sound like you are talking about FCPS since the OP seemed to be referencing experiences in FCPS (not named, but the AAP reference and lack of naming another school system makes it seem that way).

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Anonymous wrote:Are you making assumptions about No VA CC? It sounds like you know very little about it. Their class sizes cap out at 25, generally, and they need a minimum students to enroll for the class to go forward. That number changes depending on the class.

I’m sure NVCC is wonderful and your friend, the dean of dual enrollment is a very nice lady. It just wasn’t a good fit for our son.

Well, to be fair, it couldn’t have been a fit for him because he couldn’t have been accepted there. But, how are you being helpful to others if you won’t post the name of the school so others who ask about Algebra in middle elementary school have a chance at it? If there are 100 kids per class, I’m not sure how this outs you in any way. Esp bc any future attendees would be well behind your child.

He rejected them first.

You’re allowing your third grader to evaluate and select a college? Come on now- you found an online school and enrolled him. He isn’t doing the research on this…

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Could you at least name the school system? It doesn't sound like you are talking about FCPS since the OP seemed to be referencing experiences in FCPS (not named, but the AAP reference and lack of naming another school system makes it seem that way).

It’s not FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Could you at least name the school system? It doesn't sound like you are talking about FCPS since the OP seemed to be referencing experiences in FCPS (not named, but the AAP reference and lack of naming another school system makes it seem that way).

It’s not FCPS.

Do you homeschool?

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Could you at least name the school system? It doesn't sound like you are talking about FCPS since the OP seemed to be referencing experiences in FCPS (not named, but the AAP reference and lack of naming another school system makes it seem that way).

It’s not FCPS.

Do you homeschool?

No, my son goes to a charter school.

Yes, I teach him in math, in addition to his regular classes.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7th grade DD is the only 7th grader in her Algebra 1 class filled with 8th graders. (LCPS.) She loves it since it's more of a challenge but it is still really easy for her. Most of the kids in her class however are struggling and failing.

Is she the only 7th grader taking algebra at the school? In some LCPS schools the 8th graders taking algebra are the weaker students, and the 7th graders tend to be in their own classes.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Could you at least name the school system? It doesn't sound like you are talking about FCPS since the OP seemed to be referencing experiences in FCPS (not named, but the AAP reference and lack of naming another school system makes it seem that way).

It’s not FCPS.

Do you homeschool?

No, my son goes to a charter school.

Yes, I teach him in math, in addition to his regular classes.

My friend’s son was in Algebra in 6th grade in a well known private school in the DC area. Boy did she let me know it! One day, my 7th grader was doing algebra work when this boy looked at it and asked what that was. My kid said it was algebra homework. The other kid responded that he had no idea what that was. My kid then asked what he was working on. It wasn’t algebra. It was also a self paced class. Exams were done on the student’s own time (not proctored) and heavily curved. The moral of the story is if it doesn’t look like a duck, it’s probably not one. Same applies to a true algebra class, let alone a “college level” one. You know this, which is why you’re not giving the details.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Could you at least name the school system? It doesn't sound like you are talking about FCPS since the OP seemed to be referencing experiences in FCPS (not named, but the AAP reference and lack of naming another school system makes it seem that way).

It’s not FCPS.

Do you homeschool?

No, my son goes to a charter school.

Yes, I teach him in math, in addition to his regular classes.

My friend’s son was in Algebra in 6th grade in a well known private school in the DC area. Boy did she let me know it! One day, my 7th grader was doing algebra work when this boy looked at it and asked what that was. My kid said it was algebra homework. The other kid responded that he had no idea what that was. My kid then asked what he was working on. It wasn’t algebra. It was also a self paced class. Exams were done on the student’s own time (not proctored) and heavily curved. The moral of the story is if it doesn’t look like a duck, it’s probably not one. Same applies to a true algebra class, let alone a “college level” one. You know this, which is why you’re not giving the details.

It seems your problem is being competitive with other parents, and using your children as proxies in this bragging game. Let them be, give them the benefit of the doubt and move on, it doesn’t affect your life in any way.

Nobody here claimed that remedial algebra 1 at a community college is a ‘college level’ class. It’s just one of the venues parents can find to support their kids that are more advanced and need to take that class earlier than the typical 7th-8th grade.

That option is just one of the many like BYU online high school, John’s Hopkins CTY, all the online learning platforms (coursera, edx, udemy, etc), AOPS and RSM have their classes too, the list is too long to be complete. We chose the cc for this clase due to a variety of factors and we used several others over time.

If telling yourself that accelerated kids are frauds gives you comfort, then do whatever helps you cope with the anxieties in your life.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Oh give me a break with the weird vibe stuff. They are telling you to name the school not to stalk your child but because they think you are full of shit. And as for identifying your child, if they are in fact taking Algebra in 4th grade, you have already outed yourself because your child is the only one.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Oh give me a break with the weird vibe stuff. They are telling you to name the school not to stalk your child but because they think you are full of shit. And as for identifying your child, if they are in fact taking Algebra in 4th grade, you have already outed yourself because your child is the only one.

You seem crazy enough to call the school and ask about 4th graders taking Algebra 1.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is in a similar situation taking Algebra in 4th. He got this advanced because I was teaching him during the COVID times and we had a lot of time on our hands. He is also fairly quick to catch on things. The class he is taking is online through the local community college. I would not recommend an online class at that age unless there someone to tutor him one on one. We tried on line classes, regular classes through the school, enrichment like AOPS etc. and one on one instruction is by far the most effective since you can go back and forth with the student to figure out what he understood. Of course this takes more time and/or money compared to the others.

Another point, look carefully at the contents of the class, some skip material are are not well aligned with the common core. Then, when he house back to an in person class he might not have been taught the foundation for it.

Make sure he is placed appropriately through multiple measures. There are diagnostics test that are free like Khan Academy, or some that you can purchase like IXL or MAP. Don’t rely only on the school because this situation is something they don’t run into every year.

I would also advise taking your time, if it will be two years to go through Algebra 1, that’s perfectly fine, use the diagnostics to find areas that were not understood properly and have him work on them. In the end the goal is learning, not that he takes Algebra 1 as early as possible.

Since NVCC doesn’t allow it, what community college is your son at? Is the tutoring in person? By a parent or outsider? Just seeking to have this information shared for others. Of course, if the course requires a lot of 1:1 tutoring - esp where you’re figuring out what he understood - one could argue your son wasn’t truly ready for this class as a 4th grader. Clearly, he’s bright but he’s also not on his own. He’s got a lot of support.

Not every community college is as awful as NVCC. There are community colleges that actually care their students. Not having a solid Algebra 1 foundation is offered as a class, because they found it to be one of the many roadblocks to students getting back to school and continuing their education. To support them even further, the class is on line, self paced, broken into smaller modules so it’s fine if you don’t get to finish the class in one semester. Also the math department offers free unlimited 1:1 tutoring is part of the class offering. Anybody can join they don’t turn students away. The class enrollment is full at 100 students. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that there are plenty of classes at NVCC with less than 5 students enrolled that are essentially a huge waste of taxpayer money.

You had me until this. What legit college allows a class to end when the student finishes versus on a set date? Self paced classes? Sure. Ones that can carry over after a semester ends? No. If this is how it is for this child, who is in Algebra in 4th grade with 1:1 tutoring with an adult and no deadline, it’s probably enriching but not a real class. will your local Hs accept this credit or is your child home schooled?

I’m very sorry the offering of some community colleges is not to your liking. The Algebra 1 class is divided into 4 modules, and the student can take any number in a semester, not all 4. They also have the same format for Algebra 2. Not sure why that’s such a no-no for you. In this case he will just take the entire class over one year, or two semesters, which is standard for regular students. My son was tested at the beginning of the school year and scored in the 90 percentile for 8th graders, which is when ‘good’ students typically take Algebra 1. There were some scheduling issues and the school could only place him in 6th grade math, but suggested that we look at other alternatives outside of regular ours of instruction. Both the principal and school counselor signed the dual enrollment form, so I’m guessing he will get the credit.

You seem to be intent on throwing some shade by arguing it’s not a real class, too much support etc. It’s very much possible, and in that case he’ll just spend more time until he gets a solid understanding of Algebra 1. So far he’s doing fine, the grades along the future MAP scores will tell if he’s doing appropriate progress. I’ll let you know how he did.

Sounds good. Has anyone else heard of a college class that allows it to extend beyond a semester in this fashion? Which college is it? I don’t mean to throw shade - it’s more that the information provided has a lot of supplemental issues which are directly related and have to be considered. I’d be curious how a child like this would do wholly on his own - zero help - with an Algebra 1 college class that finishes in 15 weeks or less, as that’s the norm.

You didn’t say whether this class will be accepted by the HS or if he is homeschooled. Also, did he need to test into the class, at an eating center (proctored)?

You didn’t read carefully. All students in his school entering 6th grade take MAP for math placement. I asked that he’s included to take the test as well, which is of course proctored by his teacher. The school signed on the dual enrollment form and they also have a high school graduation requirement that each student completes a dual enrollment class. His current math teacher said he’ll get the credit for the class, but I haven’t asked specifically the HS math department, because to be honest it’s a non-issue for us, by the time he’s in high school, 5 years from now, Algebra 1 will not be something to worry about. For all cc classes he will get a grade, credit and a transcript. Whether his future HS recognizes the credit depends on what HS he’ll attend, what the contents of their class is etc.

It’s weird that you mention he’s not taking the class ‘wholly’ on his own with ‘zero help’. To be clear, tutoring is offered as part of the class because otherwise it would be fully online and some students learn better in person. It’s possible this qualifies as cheating in your book, but there’s also videos and you can even email the instructor with questions. Shocking that they support their students in being successful, that’s definitely not how Northern Virginia Community College does it! Also, the exam is on the honors system, which should be the ultimate proof for you that everyone cheats and the class is not ‘for real’.

Name the school.

I’m not putting out information that could potentially identify my child. Frankly, your insistence on it is giving me a weird vibe.

The postings are meant to help other parents navigate a situation that may be similar, not to put out my son for public scrutiny.

Oh give me a break with the weird vibe stuff. They are telling you to name the school not to stalk your child but because they think you are full of shit. And as for identifying your child, if they are in fact taking Algebra in 4th grade, you have already outed yourself because your child is the only one.

You seem crazy enough to call the school and ask about 4th graders taking Algebra 1.

New poster: every time you’re asked for any specifics - which is what the entire OP was about AND YOU were the one who offered the general info about your kid…you claim we are stalkers, giving you a weird vibe, and now are crazy. Then when told NVCC wouldn’t have allowed this, NVCC is terrible and your son rejected it even though he never applied. Translation: any time you hear what you perceive to be an attack or even a legit question…you follow up with an insult.

If there really is a college class that has no hard deadlines, a class that need not be finished within a semester and exams that aren’t proctored, say the name of the college and the name of the class.

[Anonymous]

Come on, you now have a multiple personality disorder, or just sock puppet posting? You are truly unique in your quest to prove… I’m not sure what, to be honest.

If you want an example of self paced Algebra 1 you can find it here:
https://cty.jhu.edu/programs/online/courses/honors-algebra-i-al1

Here an example of a college level class that is self paced:
https://cty.jhu.edu/programs/online/courses/ap-calculus-bc-cbc

My son is qualified for the program in math, but we chose to not take their classes and went the cc route instead. Why is it so hard for you to believe that a cc might offer a similar format to the one at John Hopkins?

It’s obvious that this whole discussion is about feeding your own insecurities and not about getting advice on how to support your child.

[Anonymous]

When asked for the college name and class you instead:

- post a link for a class for grades 6-8;

- post a second link for a class for grade 8+; and then

- post an insult, as previously mentioned, is your MO when cornered with something you don’t like.

There is no such college class. Colleges do not offer any for credit college classes that have no deadlines and no proctored exams. Please…stop with the nonsense.