Very disturbing incident on metro bus

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The kids who behave this way have been poorly parented. Berating them for their language and shaming them is not going to help---kids like this have experienced that as their parenting "norm" and in a pack mentality are not going to react well when confronted by a stranger.

I saw a similar situation play out on a metro train several years ago when a middle aged mom with a small child called out a group of loud, foul-mouthed teen girls. After they snarled, mocked and threatened the woman for the next several stops, making it uncomfortable for everyone on the train, I thought about what my mom the high school teacher would have done.

I leaned over to the ringleader and said quietly, "You are a beautiful young woman, and your friends are too. But when all people hear is a bunch of curse words coming out of y'all's mouths, that's all they can focus on, and they can't see how pretty you are. Give people a chance to see YOU. That's what this lady was trying to tell you."

They stared at me. The ringleader said, "But she didn't say it THAT way!. Ringleader's bestie had a stunned look on her face, like she had never been called beautiful in her life. I got off at the next stop, so have no idea of whether what I said neutralized the situation or whether they went back to harassing the complaining parent.

We have lost our societal ability to collectively socialize children.

I think that's beautiful, but this could've easily turned ugly towards you.

IMO, it's best to just keep your head down in these situations, unless someone becomes seriously violent.

I grew up in LA, in a pretty rough HS.

Avoid trouble and MYOB is always the best policy.

+1

Have “the talk” so your children know to flee any area when unruly teens like that arrive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids who behave this way have been poorly parented. Berating them for their language and shaming them is not going to help---kids like this have experienced that as their parenting "norm" and in a pack mentality are not going to react well when confronted by a stranger.

I saw a similar situation play out on a metro train several years ago when a middle aged mom with a small child called out a group of loud, foul-mouthed teen girls. After they snarled, mocked and threatened the woman for the next several stops, making it uncomfortable for everyone on the train, I thought about what my mom the high school teacher would have done.

I leaned over to the ringleader and said quietly, "You are a beautiful young woman, and your friends are too. But when all people hear is a bunch of curse words coming out of y'all's mouths, that's all they can focus on, and they can't see how pretty you are. Give people a chance to see YOU. That's what this lady was trying to tell you."

They stared at me. The ringleader said, "But she didn't say it THAT way!. Ringleader's bestie had a stunned look on her face, like she had never been called beautiful in her life. I got off at the next stop, so have no idea of whether what I said neutralized the situation or whether they went back to harassing the complaining parent.

We have lost our societal ability to collectively socialize children.

I think that's beautiful, but this could've easily turned ugly towards you.

IMO, it's best to just keep your head down in these situations, unless someone becomes seriously violent.

I grew up in LA, in a pretty rough HS.

The key statement is that PP did that several years ago. Try to pull that in 2022 and you'll see yourself tossed off then bus!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish our elected representatives cared as much as crime as they do friggin bike lanes.

Everyone is too cowed by progressive moral absolutism and is convinced that focusing on the root causes of poverty in perpetuity is a better solution.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish our elected representatives cared as much as crime as they do friggin bike lanes.

Everyone is too cowed by progressive moral absolutism and is convinced that focusing on the root causes of poverty in perpetuity is a better solution.

+1

Except the lady who got beaten up. Hope she sues C Allen and Alissa Silverman

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish our elected representatives cared as much as crime as they do friggin bike lanes.

Everyone is too cowed by progressive moral absolutism and is convinced that focusing on the root causes of poverty in perpetuity is a better solution.

Elissa Silverman believes what these thugs really need is a stern hug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish our elected representatives cared as much as crime as they do friggin bike lanes.

Everyone is too cowed by progressive moral absolutism and is convinced that focusing on the root causes of poverty in perpetuity is a better solution.

Elissa Silverman believes what these thugs really need is a stern hug.

And a furrowed brow from a judge warning them they only have 13 more years before DC will prosecute them as adults so they better shape up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good thing the city council is revising the criminal code so these folks won’t spend a day in jail.

When I read in the article that this was "unacceptable"..my first thought was.. "OK, so what are you going to do about it?" Nothing. Those people will get a slap on the wrist and go on to probably commit more violence.

Just smoke up the public's a$$es.

What do you propose we do sitting in downtown Bethesda after the fact? How can we do something?

The question wasn't posed to you.. it was posted to the transit authority who stated that this was "unacceptable".

OK, so what are they going to do about it?

Institute a no talking rule and only enforce it against adults. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A woman on the bus gave up her seat so another woman and her kids could sit down together. And then she asked a group of teens to stop cursing. I have no idea "how" she asked, but nothing justifies what these kids did to her. And I get why people are scared to intervene. What can be done to help prevent some of the out-of-control behavior of youth?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-shows-a-woman-being-attacked-pushed-off-a-dc-metrobus

What can be done? Avoid areas and places, like “bad neighborhoods” and public transit where violent people are more likely to be.

Your privilege is really showing. You realize that so many people in DC have no choice but to live where they live and take public transportation, right. So we should make it safer for them instead of throwing our hands up and letting these hoodlums run the show.

The video is obvious that you’re on your own out there.

Have the talk with your kids to never go to areas like that.

The video is totally messed up, but I think the point you're missing here is that there are people who LIVE in the neighborhood where this happened. So what are they supposed to do? Tell their kids not to come home?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A woman on the bus gave up her seat so another woman and her kids could sit down together. And then she asked a group of teens to stop cursing. I have no idea "how" she asked, but nothing justifies what these kids did to her. And I get why people are scared to intervene. What can be done to help prevent some of the out-of-control behavior of youth?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-shows-a-woman-being-attacked-pushed-off-a-dc-metrobus

What can be done? Avoid areas and places, like “bad neighborhoods” and public transit where violent people are more likely to be.

Your privilege is really showing. You realize that so many people in DC have no choice but to live where they live and take public transportation, right. So we should make it safer for them instead of throwing our hands up and letting these hoodlums run the show.

But EVERYONE has a choice in how they act. So I choose to avoid being in areas where people can't act like decent human beings.

Wow! You can make that ‘choice’ due to your privilege. Some of us are forced to take mass transit. And we should be able to do so safely.

Also, don’t be so smug. As crime rises everywhere, the ‘areas where people can’t act like decent human beings’ will be more and more widespread.

It’s interesting to see such cognitive dissonance in your post. You employ a progressive buzzword like privilege, while also complaining about crime and how we should be able to walk around safely. It’s almost like you want to say we should get tough on crime. I just don’t get how you mix both concepts without irony.

You can understand the concept of "privilege," i.e., that some people have advantages and disadvantages because of things that they often have little to no control or responsibility for (like their race or how wealthy their parents were, among others), and even use the word to describe it, while also believing that people should be able to walk around free from fear of crime and that anyone who assaults elderly bus riders should face charges. I don't think there's any cognitive dissonance in that at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A woman on the bus gave up her seat so another woman and her kids could sit down together. And then she asked a group of teens to stop cursing. I have no idea "how" she asked, but nothing justifies what these kids did to her. And I get why people are scared to intervene. What can be done to help prevent some of the out-of-control behavior of youth?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-shows-a-woman-being-attacked-pushed-off-a-dc-metrobus

What can be done? Avoid areas and places, like “bad neighborhoods” and public transit where violent people are more likely to be.

Your privilege is really showing. You realize that so many people in DC have no choice but to live where they live and take public transportation, right. So we should make it safer for them instead of throwing our hands up and letting these hoodlums run the show.

But EVERYONE has a choice in how they act. So I choose to avoid being in areas where people can't act like decent human beings.

Wow! You can make that ‘choice’ due to your privilege. Some of us are forced to take mass transit. And we should be able to do so safely.

Also, don’t be so smug. As crime rises everywhere, the ‘areas where people can’t act like decent human beings’ will be more and more widespread.

This privilege slur doesn’t mean sh!y to me. Say it all you want.

I live in DC but choose not to go to areas like that and have taught my kids to leave any environment where they are uncomfortable and to not get involved when situations like that happen.

Ugh you are awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A woman on the bus gave up her seat so another woman and her kids could sit down together. And then she asked a group of teens to stop cursing. I have no idea "how" she asked, but nothing justifies what these kids did to her. And I get why people are scared to intervene. What can be done to help prevent some of the out-of-control behavior of youth?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-shows-a-woman-being-attacked-pushed-off-a-dc-metrobus

What can be done? Avoid areas and places, like “bad neighborhoods” and public transit where violent people are more likely to be.

Your privilege is really showing. You realize that so many people in DC have no choice but to live where they live and take public transportation, right. So we should make it safer for them instead of throwing our hands up and letting these hoodlums run the show.

But EVERYONE has a choice in how they act. So I choose to avoid being in areas where people can't act like decent human beings.

Wow! You can make that ‘choice’ due to your privilege. Some of us are forced to take mass transit. And we should be able to do so safely.

Also, don’t be so smug. As crime rises everywhere, the ‘areas where people can’t act like decent human beings’ will be more and more widespread.

This privilege slur doesn’t mean sh!y to me. Say it all you want.

I live in DC but choose not to go to areas like that and have taught my kids to leave any environment where they are uncomfortable and to not get involved when situations like that happen.

So you’re proud of the fact that you have raised your kids to standby and watch while an older lady gets attacked? Umm, kudos to you, I guess?

I actually do counsel my children not to interact with anyone on the streets of DC, I've seen black parents give the same (good) advice. I also tell them not to intervene in any conflicts in DC as it's too risky socially, legally, and personally. Call it privilege but I grew up needing street smarts and will counsel my UMC bubble kids correctly when it comes to their safety.

I mean, why stay there at all, in DC that is?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What can be done is that people can drop their entitlement. If you’re not disabled and you get on a bus, you and your kids need to be prepared to stand. Stop policing others’ language. Done.

Terrible take.

You are saying it's fine for teens to scream obscenities on the bus, and basically make it an awful experience for other riders.

So an older person, like this woman, who is clearly religious and moral, should just endure this b/c she is too poor to Uber or drive, while wealthier people stop riding public transit so they don't have to engage with kids like this at all.

I can guarantee this behavior would not be tolerated in UMC white spaces. But it's OK in poorer, majority AA spaces? Poorer people have to have a lower quality of life out of fear of violence and harm? That's very messed up.

Oh, puh-lease. How asinine.

Yes. Keep your mouth shut. Swearing is not illegal. You are not entitled to seats together. Don’t like it? Walking is free.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A woman on the bus gave up her seat so another woman and her kids could sit down together. And then she asked a group of teens to stop cursing. I have no idea "how" she asked, but nothing justifies what these kids did to her. And I get why people are scared to intervene. What can be done to help prevent some of the out-of-control behavior of youth?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-shows-a-woman-being-attacked-pushed-off-a-dc-metrobus

What can be done? Avoid areas and places, like “bad neighborhoods” and public transit where violent people are more likely to be.

Your privilege is really showing. You realize that so many people in DC have no choice but to live where they live and take public transportation, right. So we should make it safer for them instead of throwing our hands up and letting these hoodlums run the show.

But EVERYONE has a choice in how they act. So I choose to avoid being in areas where people can't act like decent human beings.

Wow! You can make that ‘choice’ due to your privilege. Some of us are forced to take mass transit. And we should be able to do so safely.

Also, don’t be so smug. As crime rises everywhere, the ‘areas where people can’t act like decent human beings’ will be more and more widespread.

This privilege slur doesn’t mean sh!y to me. Say it all you want.

I live in DC but choose not to go to areas like that and have taught my kids to leave any environment where they are uncomfortable and to not get involved when situations like that happen.

So you’re proud of the fact that you have raised your kids to standby and watch while an older lady gets attacked? Umm, kudos to you, I guess?

I actually do counsel my children not to interact with anyone on the streets of DC, I've seen black parents give the same (good) advice. I also tell them not to intervene in any conflicts in DC as it's too risky socially, legally, and personally. Call it privilege but I grew up needing street smarts and will counsel my UMC bubble kids correctly when it comes to their safety.

I mean, why stay there at all, in DC that is?

I don't live on the streets of DC, don't ride the bus. DC has an excellent social scene with high quality people, you just have to be careful and aware while in transit from here to there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What can be done is that people can drop their entitlement. If you’re not disabled and you get on a bus, you and your kids need to be prepared to stand. Stop policing others’ language. Done.

Terrible take.

You are saying it's fine for teens to scream obscenities on the bus, and basically make it an awful experience for other riders.

So an older person, like this woman, who is clearly religious and moral, should just endure this b/c she is too poor to Uber or drive, while wealthier people stop riding public transit so they don't have to engage with kids like this at all.

I can guarantee this behavior would not be tolerated in UMC white spaces. But it's OK in poorer, majority AA spaces? Poorer people have to have a lower quality of life out of fear of violence and harm? That's very messed up.

Oh, puh-lease. How asinine.

Yes. Keep your mouth shut. Swearing is not illegal. You are not entitled to seats together. Don’t like it? Walking is free.

For anyone who takes public transit daily as I do, things have clearly gone downhill the past two years. It’s going to get a lot worse still so may as well take this advice.

[Anonymous]

This woman was violently attacked. She appears to be a middle aged woman or older who cares about her community.

The bus driver should be fired.