They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life. |
The CCT crossing of Little Falls Parkway doesn't count as "along Little Falls Parkway"? Why? |
Don’t forget that the person who was killed was engaged in reckless behavior when he was struck. Nothing about the case showed the road design was flawed but planning staff lied when they discussed it with the board. |
We don't have instant capital punishment for people who disobey stop signs. If we did, 99% of drivers in Montgomery County would be dead. I say that as a driver. |
Former Planning Board member Tina Patterson publicly chastised staff for providing inaccurate and misleading information about the incident. |
Jumping into a pool without knowing how to swim and then drowning is not “capital punishment”. Try again. |
Thanks for making the argument for why Idaho Stops are fundamentally bad law. |
The person who was killed was Ned Gaylin, aged 81, who was engaged in the reckless behavior of riding his recumbent bicycle on a trail across an intersection where there had been warning signs with "dangerous intersection ahead" for years. Also, it's well known that crosswalks across multiple lane roads, without stop signs or red lights for cars, are dangerous. There's even a term for it: "multiple threat". Plus state laws that specifically forbid drivers from passing who are drivers stopped for pedestrians in such crosswalks, because the law recognizes the existence of the multiple threat. I have asked the county for crosswalks in places like that, and the county has said no, it's too dangerous, because of the multiple threat. You bet that road design was flawed. Good for Parks for finally fixing it. |
Eh? People on bikes who do what the Idaho Stop law allows (treating stop signs as yield signs) are not disobeying stop signs, they are engaging in behavior that is specifically allowed by the law. Just like people on pedestrians aren't disobeying stop signs, because stop signs don't apply to pedestrians. |
They “fixed it” years ago. Try again. |
The person who was driving and killed Ned Gaylin might have a different view of the case. I don't know about you, but when I'm driving, I don't want to kill anybody, whether they stopped or didn't stop at a stop sign. If safety improvements reduce my chances of hitting or killing somebody, I'm all for them. |
Capital punishment is illegal in the state of Maryland. If people doing stupid things on bicycles due based on bad personal risk assessments (the basis of the Idaho Stop) is capital punishment then any such law that leads to such an outcome should be illegal. |
Was the person driving a state of Maryland official executioner? |
And now they're fixing it more. As the PP said, for you as a driver, the only thing this does is stop you from speeding to wait at the next red light. |
Apparently so? I doubt they volunteered for it, but that's how it worked out, assuming you believe the "they broke the law and paid with their life" line of thought. |