TJ Discrimination Case

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Anonymous wrote:The TJ lawsuit folks should keep getting continuances until the Supreme Court overturned affirmative action at which point their lawsuit will have a better chance.

I'm not sure that it would. The judge found the changes were made with discriminatory intent.
However, if TJ never existed and a school was opened brand new with this admissions process, I don't think it would be considered racist.
The issue is they changed it with an eye on reducing numbers for Asians, but was on its face racially neutral. Geography is being used as a proxy for race, but they are not admitting to it.

Weird I read the judge laughed it out of court because they couldn't show any harm done.

Yes, the group claiming harm still has a higher number of seats than any other group in fact I think it's around 60% so hard to take this claim seriously.

It would be 80% w/o discrimination.

This is the core of the argument for adherents of the previous status quo. They genuinely believe that TJ should be nearly 100% Asian. These are the same people who used to claim that the existence of ANY Black or Hispanic students at TJ was de facto evidence of affirmative action. They think that they're smarter than everyone else, period.

It should be! Everyone knows this to be true but most just won't admit it publicly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The TJ lawsuit folks should keep getting continuances until the Supreme Court overturned affirmative action at which point their lawsuit will have a better chance.

I'm not sure that it would. The judge found the changes were made with discriminatory intent.
However, if TJ never existed and a school was opened brand new with this admissions process, I don't think it would be considered racist.
The issue is they changed it with an eye on reducing numbers for Asians, but was on its face racially neutral. Geography is being used as a proxy for race, but they are not admitting to it.

Weird I read the judge laughed it out of court because they couldn't show any harm done.

Yes, the group claiming harm still has a higher number of seats than any other group in fact I think it's around 60% so hard to take this claim seriously.

It would be 80% w/o discrimination.

This is the core of the argument for adherents of the previous status quo. They genuinely believe that TJ should be nearly 100% Asian. These are the same people who used to claim that the existence of ANY Black or Hispanic students at TJ was de facto evidence of affirmative action. They think that they're smarter than everyone else, period.

Asian here. In general, we absolutely don’t think we are smarter than anyone else. I do know though that we need to work harder to succeed. And we prioritize education above other things.

[Anonymous]

It depends on what you mean by smart. Intrinsically smarter? Who knows. But after 18 years of studying harder than everyone else (no it's not just a stereotype) then yes, that probably does make you smarter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It depends on what you mean by smart. Intrinsically smarter? Who knows. But after 18 years of studying harder than everyone else (no it's not just a stereotype) then yes, that probably does make you smarter.

It also makes you a good follower with limited real-world experience.

[Anonymous]

The most recent TJ classes had significantly less students in accelerated math sequences. Does anyone want to try and defend that is a characteristic of kids with more STEM talent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most recent TJ classes had significantly less students in accelerated math sequences. Does anyone want to try and defend that is a characteristic of kids with more STEM talent?

*Intrinsically smart people never have to deliver. That’s why we need to change the process to identify them. Says a woke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most recent TJ classes had significantly less students in accelerated math sequences. Does anyone want to try and defend that is a characteristic of kids with more STEM talent?

The goal isn't to have the top STEM students. The talk of finding the most naturally gifted students is just talk.

[Anonymous]

When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It depends on what you mean by smart. Intrinsically smarter? Who knows. But after 18 years of studying harder than everyone else (no it's not just a stereotype) then yes, that probably does make you smarter.

It also makes you a good follower with limited real-world experience.

Tell that to your boss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

Don't know if they did, but the scandal was all over the news.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

Don't know if they did, but the scandal was all over the news.

Citation for that? If it was all over the news, surely you can link to some news stories.

[Anonymous]

This thread is an excellent argument for shuttering TJ altogether.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most recent TJ classes had significantly less students in accelerated math sequences. Does anyone want to try and defend that is a characteristic of kids with more STEM talent?

I think they should keep the accelerated math requirement but Alg 1 in 7th is enough. You should be able to do a track the school actually offers vs having to be an exception to the rule to even be eligible

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When did FCPS make any statement about needing reforms because people are buying the test at prep schools?

Don't know if they did, but the scandal was all over the news.

Citation for that? If it was all over the news, surely you can link to some news stories.

Try google ....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The most recent TJ classes had significantly less students in accelerated math sequences. Does anyone want to try and defend that is a characteristic of kids with more STEM talent?

I think they should keep the accelerated math requirement but Alg 1 in 7th is enough. You should be able to do a track the school actually offers vs having to be an exception to the rule to even be eligible

I'm skeptical about their claims I mean they make all these statements with 0 evidence when in fact TJ appears to be doing better than ever