Are the NESCACs worth the money?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

I think that your reasoning is incorrect.

You are making the grand assumption that those 52% who enrolled at Williams College were actually accepted to at least one of Harvard, Princeton, Yale, or Stanford.

Additionally, you may have forgotten that a significant number of students included in Williams College's 52% yield applied binding early decision (ED) and,presumably, were not accepted to any other non-rolling admission college or university.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is Emory anyone's first choice?

https://college.emory.edu/scholars/

Ahh...so if they pay people to go there, Emory is a first choice. Got it.

Don't understand why PP posted the Emory scholars link as it didn't make sense to the initial question. Either way 55% of Emory students are ED so those students clearly has it as their first choice. Same as Williams.

Great point !

I posted Emory Scholars information because many students focus on schools which award merit aid as need based aid may not be an option and they want to save money for medical school or another purpose.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

DP. Your paywalled link probably refers to Trinity College (another NESCAC, but since it is paywalled I can’t say) . Williams peer school are 100% the ivies and half the NESCAC and it only takes a look at the CDS stats for enrolled students to see it. Yes, there are students who will choose either a small school OR a large school with the definitive qualifiers being quality of education, faculty, placement and prestige.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

PP listed HYP as Williams overlap schools, not me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

PP listed HYP as Williams overlap schools, not me.

Williams College listed their overlap schools as: Amherst, Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Middlebury, Princeton, & Stanford.

Again, the source for this list is Williams College.

Amherst College lists their overlap schools as: Williams, Middlebury, Colby, Yale, Brown, Harvard, Princeton, & Stanford.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

PP listed HYP as Williams overlap schools, not me.

Williams College listed their overlap schools as: Amherst, Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Middlebury, Princeton, & Stanford.

Again, the source for this list is Williams College.

Amherst College lists their overlap schools as: Williams, Middlebury, Colby, Yale, Brown, Harvard, Princeton, & Stanford.

Bowdoin sitting there wondering why they don't count

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

You misunderstand.

Your list is PEER schools--to compare staff salaries, graduation rates, some enrollment matters, etc.

The list under discussion is OVERLAP schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

PP listed HYP as Williams overlap schools, not me.

Williams College listed their overlap schools as: Amherst, Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Middlebury, Princeton, & Stanford.

Again, the source for this list is Williams College.

Amherst College lists their overlap schools as: Williams, Middlebury, Colby, Yale, Brown, Harvard, Princeton, & Stanford.

Bowdoin sitting there wondering why they don't count

Ask Williams College why they don't list Bowdoin College as an overlap school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

PP listed HYP as Williams overlap schools, not me.

Williams College listed their overlap schools as: Amherst, Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Middlebury, Princeton, & Stanford.

Again, the source for this list is Williams College.

Amherst College lists their overlap schools as: Williams, Middlebury, Colby, Yale, Brown, Harvard, Princeton, & Stanford.

Bowdoin sitting there wondering why they don't count

Yes, I would have thought Bowdoin and Colby would have been on these lists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

PP listed HYP as Williams overlap schools, not me.

Williams College listed their overlap schools as: Amherst, Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Middlebury, Princeton, & Stanford.

Again, the source for this list is Williams College.

Amherst College lists their overlap schools as: Williams, Middlebury, Colby, Yale, Brown, Harvard, Princeton, & Stanford.

Bowdoin sitting there wondering why they don't count

Yes, I would have thought Bowdoin and Colby would have been on these lists.

My best guess is that some students who apply to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, & Stanford will also apply to the #1 (top ranked by US News) LAC because it is the top ranked LAC. Prestige & quality of education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

PP listed HYP as Williams overlap schools, not me.

Williams College listed their overlap schools as: Amherst, Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Middlebury, Princeton, & Stanford.

Again, the source for this list is Williams College.

Amherst College lists their overlap schools as: Williams, Middlebury, Colby, Yale, Brown, Harvard, Princeton, & Stanford.

Bowdoin sitting there wondering why they don't count

Yes, I would have thought Bowdoin and Colby would have been on these lists.

Do you like the fact that US News Best Colleges has separate rankings for National Universities & LACs ?

I do--especially because the WSJ/THE rankings combines their rankings of LACs and National Universities and Regionals into one ranking of 796 schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

And yet the yield numbers suggest that a Willliams admit making that choice with respect to its overlap schools is significantly more likely than an Emory admit choosing Emory over its respective overlap schools (which are themselves less selective than the Williams overlap schools).

Williams is competing with other LACs not Unis, especially not HYP. Here are Williams peer schools. The only university was Trinity college. You're delusional.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in

Do you understand that each school--including Williams College and Bowdoin College and 1498 other colleges & universities--was allowed to select up to 100 "peer" schools in order to receive a free report on each of those schools ?

Most schools selected about 20 other schools; Bowdoin College selected 98 other schools including all 8 Ivies in order to get the free report on each of these 98 schools.

The most commonly selected "peer school" was Carleton College.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

Great information, but it’s not information at all. It’s just your speculation based on your own bias.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegeevaluator.com/rankings/highest-admission-yield/

Williams yield: #28, 52% yield (9% acceptance rate)
Emory yield: #92, 34% yield (13% acceptance rate)

Williams is more of a "first choice" than Emory.

Great information, but I think that you may have missed the point of my earlier post.

My earlier post focused just on the schools that Williams College listed as its overlap schools. If you think that 52% of those accepted to Williams and any of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford are selectig Williams,you are engaging in wishful thinking--not reality.

Great information, but it’s not information at all. It’s just your speculation based on your own bias.

Sure and the published bias of multiple publications that rank colleges & universities and the bias of several studies on the matter.

Why not invest some time and research the studies on cross-admits ?