Are the NESCACs worth the money?

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Anonymous wrote:Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools

I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not close!

Eew.

If you are truly a Williams grad, please consider this having the opposite of the desired effect.

Maybe you don’t belong at Williams.

Maybe my opinion of Williams was too generous if it doesn’t instill the value of humility or plain ol’ good taste.

The best schools are respected despite random alumni displays of excessive arrogance (like saying closely ranked schools are not even close in reputation), not because of them. It shouldn’t be beyond your education to appreciate how the chest thumping diminishes the very brand you yearn to promote.

What are talking about? Williams and Amherst are academically more rigorous and their Econ programs (also PoliEc at Williams) are much stronger. Econ is the most popular major at Williams and the faculty are outstanding. There is also a small Econ grad program. For students who are passionate about Econ or PoliEc there is a lot to offer. And in terms of Wall Street connections, if you look at the first-year IBD analyst classes at GS, MS, JPM, etc. you probably won't see many kids from Colby or Bowdoin. If you knew anything about these schools - and their Econ programs - you would be contributing to the conversation instead of going on about chest thumping.

And I'm not trying to "boost" Williams. I don't care if your kid applies to Williams. I'm an alum, not an admissions officer. I'm responding to a statement about the quality of Econ programs at a few NESCACs.

Econ literally doesn't appear in the title of this thread or the in the original post's question. Your "I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not even close!" did not qualify the claim only in the context of Econ. Similarly, you are saying now that Williams and Amherst are more rigorous. More rigorous in everything? Just Econ? Say so if that's what you mean.

But even in the context of Econ, you are indeed just chest thumping if you don't provide more than anecdotes about how your school is so much better than other elite (top 10 in the case of two!) schools "it's not close!". To think doing is "contributing to the conversation" is misguided, because you are giving people a reason to hold your college in lower esteem, not higher.

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Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me you don’t know anything. The post was in response to a comment about Econ programs. Since you are not capable of using your mouse, I’ll do the work for you. The post I replied to was: “Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Middlebiuru, Borodin, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools.”

And Amherst and Williams are more rigorous in everything. Look at the quality of the applicants, the quality of the professors, etc. I can’t believe you’re trying to debate this.

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Anonymous wrote:Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools

I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not close!

Eew.

If you are truly a Williams grad, please consider this having the opposite of the desired effect.

Maybe you don’t belong at Williams.

Maybe my opinion of Williams was too generous if it doesn’t instill the value of humility or plain ol’ good taste.

The best schools are respected despite random alumni displays of excessive arrogance (like saying closely ranked schools are not even close in reputation), not because of them. It shouldn’t be beyond your education to appreciate how the chest thumping diminishes the very brand you yearn to promote.

What are talking about? Williams and Amherst are academically more rigorous and their Econ programs (also PoliEc at Williams) are much stronger. Econ is the most popular major at Williams and the faculty are outstanding. There is also a small Econ grad program. For students who are passionate about Econ or PoliEc there is a lot to offer. And in terms of Wall Street connections, if you look at the first-year IBD analyst classes at GS, MS, JPM, etc. you probably won't see many kids from Colby or Bowdoin. If you knew anything about these schools - and their Econ programs - you would be contributing to the conversation instead of going on about chest thumping.

And I'm not trying to "boost" Williams. I don't care if your kid applies to Williams. I'm an alum, not an admissions officer. I'm responding to a statement about the quality of Econ programs at a few NESCACs.

Econ literally doesn't appear in the title of this thread or the in the original post's question. Your "I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not even close!" did not qualify the claim only in the context of Econ. Similarly, you are saying now that Williams and Amherst are more rigorous. More rigorous in everything? Just Econ? Say so if that's what you mean.

But even in the context of Econ, you are indeed just chest thumping if you don't provide more than anecdotes about how your school is so much better than other elite (top 10 in the case of two!) schools "it's not close!". To think doing is "contributing to the conversation" is misguided, because you are giving people a reason to hold your college in lower esteem, not higher.

+1 This poster is correct.

Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me you don’t know anything. The post was in response to a comment about Econ programs. Since you are not capable of using your mouse, I’ll do the work for you. The post I replied to was: “Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Middlebiuru, Borodin, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools.”

And Amherst and Williams are more rigorous in everything. Look at the quality of the applicants, the quality of the professors, etc. I can’t believe you’re trying to debate this.

+1. No one who gets into Williams or Amherst goes to Colby.

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Anonymous wrote:Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools

I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not close!

Eew.

If you are truly a Williams grad, please consider this having the opposite of the desired effect.

Maybe you don’t belong at Williams.

Maybe my opinion of Williams was too generous if it doesn’t instill the value of humility or plain ol’ good taste.

The best schools are respected despite random alumni displays of excessive arrogance (like saying closely ranked schools are not even close in reputation), not because of them. It shouldn’t be beyond your education to appreciate how the chest thumping diminishes the very brand you yearn to promote.

What are talking about? Williams and Amherst are academically more rigorous and their Econ programs (also PoliEc at Williams) are much stronger. Econ is the most popular major at Williams and the faculty are outstanding. There is also a small Econ grad program. For students who are passionate about Econ or PoliEc there is a lot to offer. And in terms of Wall Street connections, if you look at the first-year IBD analyst classes at GS, MS, JPM, etc. you probably won't see many kids from Colby or Bowdoin. If you knew anything about these schools - and their Econ programs - you would be contributing to the conversation instead of going on about chest thumping.

And I'm not trying to "boost" Williams. I don't care if your kid applies to Williams. I'm an alum, not an admissions officer. I'm responding to a statement about the quality of Econ programs at a few NESCACs.

Econ literally doesn't appear in the title of this thread or the in the original post's question. Your "I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not even close!" did not qualify the claim only in the context of Econ. Similarly, you are saying now that Williams and Amherst are more rigorous. More rigorous in everything? Just Econ? Say so if that's what you mean.

But even in the context of Econ, you are indeed just chest thumping if you don't provide more than anecdotes about how your school is so much better than other elite (top 10 in the case of two!) schools "it's not close!". To think doing is "contributing to the conversation" is misguided, because you are giving people a reason to hold your college in lower esteem, not higher.

+1 This poster is correct.

Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me you don’t know anything. The post was in response to a comment about Econ programs. Since you are not capable of using your mouse, I’ll do the work for you. The post I replied to was: “Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Middlebiuru, Borodin, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools.”

And Amherst and Williams are more rigorous in everything. Look at the quality of the applicants, the quality of the professors, etc. I can’t believe you’re trying to debate this.

Don’t forget “And it’s not close!”

We know it’s all true cause you said so.

Awesome how you start off trying to say the context was specific then end with another ridiculous, sweeping comment.

Three cheers for critical reasoning!

Starting to think you work for a competing college, cause no Williams grad I’ve met has shown such poor argumentation or inability to sense when they are defeating their own cause.

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Anonymous wrote:Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools

I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not close!

Eew.

If you are truly a Williams grad, please consider this having the opposite of the desired effect.

Maybe you don’t belong at Williams.

Maybe my opinion of Williams was too generous if it doesn’t instill the value of humility or plain ol’ good taste.

The best schools are respected despite random alumni displays of excessive arrogance (like saying closely ranked schools are not even close in reputation), not because of them. It shouldn’t be beyond your education to appreciate how the chest thumping diminishes the very brand you yearn to promote.

What are talking about? Williams and Amherst are academically more rigorous and their Econ programs (also PoliEc at Williams) are much stronger. Econ is the most popular major at Williams and the faculty are outstanding. There is also a small Econ grad program. For students who are passionate about Econ or PoliEc there is a lot to offer. And in terms of Wall Street connections, if you look at the first-year IBD analyst classes at GS, MS, JPM, etc. you probably won't see many kids from Colby or Bowdoin. If you knew anything about these schools - and their Econ programs - you would be contributing to the conversation instead of going on about chest thumping.

And I'm not trying to "boost" Williams. I don't care if your kid applies to Williams. I'm an alum, not an admissions officer. I'm responding to a statement about the quality of Econ programs at a few NESCACs.

Econ literally doesn't appear in the title of this thread or the in the original post's question. Your "I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not even close!" did not qualify the claim only in the context of Econ. Similarly, you are saying now that Williams and Amherst are more rigorous. More rigorous in everything? Just Econ? Say so if that's what you mean.

But even in the context of Econ, you are indeed just chest thumping if you don't provide more than anecdotes about how your school is so much better than other elite (top 10 in the case of two!) schools "it's not close!". To think doing is "contributing to the conversation" is misguided, because you are giving people a reason to hold your college in lower esteem, not higher.

+1 This poster is correct.

Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me you don’t know anything. The post was in response to a comment about Econ programs. Since you are not capable of using your mouse, I’ll do the work for you. The post I replied to was: “Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Middlebiuru, Borodin, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools.”

And Amherst and Williams are more rigorous in everything. Look at the quality of the applicants, the quality of the professors, etc. I can’t believe you’re trying to debate this.

+1. No one who gets into Williams or Amherst goes to Colby.

Not true, and wouldn’t prove the claim even if it were.

But if you tangential logic is your thing, why don’t you compare last year’s admit rate we Colby to Amherst’s.

(Hint: Colby’s was 75% of Amherst’s. And no, I have no affiliation with Colby.)

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Anonymous wrote:NECSAC is an athletic conference of 11 schools of differing levels of excellence. The best NECSAC schools offer some of the best undergraduate education in the US. Let's momentarily set aside the USNWR ranking that stupidly splits universities and colleges into two lists, and temporarily ignore the ill-informed chatter of its DCUM groupies. The (better) WSJ ranking system places the top six NESCAC schools (Amherst, Williams, Tufts, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Wesleyan) among the top 50 in the nation. The others NECSACs aren't quite as highly ranked, with Trinity (104) and Connecticut (109) although fine bringing up the rear.

Obviously for NECSAC -- just as for Ivy or Big Ten or State U -- the finances have to work (and if $ is a concern, you'll probably want to major in something a little more marketable than say gender studies). But it's not like a NECSAC education is a lesser product that's only attractive at a discounted rate. That one even feels the need to explain that about extraordinary colleges like Williams or Amherst is just further evidence of the general uselessness of DCUM's received wisdom.

The best NECSAC schools will be (well-) known to employers, and grad schools. They may not be as well known to your father's second cousin or your grandmother's neighbor back in the old country, though, so if impressing them is a top priority and determinant of "worth the money," better to go to some huge university where a few professors have Nobel prizes and you need binoculars to see from the back of the lecture hall.

Back in the old country - wow, if you’re representative of NECSAC people, no way is my kid going to school which such ill-bred snots.

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Anonymous wrote:Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools

I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not close!

Eew.

If you are truly a Williams grad, please consider this having the opposite of the desired effect.

Maybe you don’t belong at Williams.

Maybe my opinion of Williams was too generous if it doesn’t instill the value of humility or plain ol’ good taste.

The best schools are respected despite random alumni displays of excessive arrogance (like saying closely ranked schools are not even close in reputation), not because of them. It shouldn’t be beyond your education to appreciate how the chest thumping diminishes the very brand you yearn to promote.

What are talking about? Williams and Amherst are academically more rigorous and their Econ programs (also PoliEc at Williams) are much stronger. Econ is the most popular major at Williams and the faculty are outstanding. There is also a small Econ grad program. For students who are passionate about Econ or PoliEc there is a lot to offer. And in terms of Wall Street connections, if you look at the first-year IBD analyst classes at GS, MS, JPM, etc. you probably won't see many kids from Colby or Bowdoin. If you knew anything about these schools - and their Econ programs - you would be contributing to the conversation instead of going on about chest thumping.

And I'm not trying to "boost" Williams. I don't care if your kid applies to Williams. I'm an alum, not an admissions officer. I'm responding to a statement about the quality of Econ programs at a few NESCACs.

Econ literally doesn't appear in the title of this thread or the in the original post's question. Your "I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not even close!" did not qualify the claim only in the context of Econ. Similarly, you are saying now that Williams and Amherst are more rigorous. More rigorous in everything? Just Econ? Say so if that's what you mean.

But even in the context of Econ, you are indeed just chest thumping if you don't provide more than anecdotes about how your school is so much better than other elite (top 10 in the case of two!) schools "it's not close!". To think doing is "contributing to the conversation" is misguided, because you are giving people a reason to hold your college in lower esteem, not higher.

+1 This poster is correct.

Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me you don’t know anything. The post was in response to a comment about Econ programs. Since you are not capable of using your mouse, I’ll do the work for you. The post I replied to was: “Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Middlebiuru, Borodin, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools.”

And Amherst and Williams are more rigorous in everything. Look at the quality of the applicants, the quality of the professors, etc. I can’t believe you’re trying to debate this.

+1. No one who gets into Williams or Amherst goes to Colby.

NP. Wow. This nastiness and arrogance is so unappealing. You all are doing a disservice to Williams and Amherst by snubbing your noses at other top LACs. Some do chose Colby over these. And, that's ok. Before anyone makes an accusation, my kid did not apply to Colby or Amherst. Did apply to Williams but going somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools

I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not close!

Eew.

If you are truly a Williams grad, please consider this having the opposite of the desired effect.

Maybe you don’t belong at Williams.

Maybe my opinion of Williams was too generous if it doesn’t instill the value of humility or plain ol’ good taste.

The best schools are respected despite random alumni displays of excessive arrogance (like saying closely ranked schools are not even close in reputation), not because of them. It shouldn’t be beyond your education to appreciate how the chest thumping diminishes the very brand you yearn to promote.

What are talking about? Williams and Amherst are academically more rigorous and their Econ programs (also PoliEc at Williams) are much stronger. Econ is the most popular major at Williams and the faculty are outstanding. There is also a small Econ grad program. For students who are passionate about Econ or PoliEc there is a lot to offer. And in terms of Wall Street connections, if you look at the first-year IBD analyst classes at GS, MS, JPM, etc. you probably won't see many kids from Colby or Bowdoin. If you knew anything about these schools - and their Econ programs - you would be contributing to the conversation instead of going on about chest thumping.

And I'm not trying to "boost" Williams. I don't care if your kid applies to Williams. I'm an alum, not an admissions officer. I'm responding to a statement about the quality of Econ programs at a few NESCACs.

Econ literally doesn't appear in the title of this thread or the in the original post's question. Your "I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not even close!" did not qualify the claim only in the context of Econ. Similarly, you are saying now that Williams and Amherst are more rigorous. More rigorous in everything? Just Econ? Say so if that's what you mean.

But even in the context of Econ, you are indeed just chest thumping if you don't provide more than anecdotes about how your school is so much better than other elite (top 10 in the case of two!) schools "it's not close!". To think doing is "contributing to the conversation" is misguided, because you are giving people a reason to hold your college in lower esteem, not higher.

+1 This poster is correct.

Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me you don’t know anything. The post was in response to a comment about Econ programs. Since you are not capable of using your mouse, I’ll do the work for you. The post I replied to was: “Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Middlebiuru, Borodin, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools.”

And Amherst and Williams are more rigorous in everything. Look at the quality of the applicants, the quality of the professors, etc. I can’t believe you’re trying to debate this.

+1. No one who gets into Williams or Amherst goes to Colby.

Not true, and wouldn’t prove the claim even if it were.

But if you tangential logic is your thing, why don’t you compare last year’s admit rate we Colby to Amherst’s.

(Hint: Colby’s was 75% of Amherst’s. And no, I have no affiliation with Colby.)

I can’t anymore. Send your kid to Colby. They’ll be lucky if they can get away from you.

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Anonymous wrote:Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools

I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not close!

Eew.

If you are truly a Williams grad, please consider this having the opposite of the desired effect.

Maybe you don’t belong at Williams.

Maybe my opinion of Williams was too generous if it doesn’t instill the value of humility or plain ol’ good taste.

The best schools are respected despite random alumni displays of excessive arrogance (like saying closely ranked schools are not even close in reputation), not because of them. It shouldn’t be beyond your education to appreciate how the chest thumping diminishes the very brand you yearn to promote.

What are talking about? Williams and Amherst are academically more rigorous and their Econ programs (also PoliEc at Williams) are much stronger. Econ is the most popular major at Williams and the faculty are outstanding. There is also a small Econ grad program. For students who are passionate about Econ or PoliEc there is a lot to offer. And in terms of Wall Street connections, if you look at the first-year IBD analyst classes at GS, MS, JPM, etc. you probably won't see many kids from Colby or Bowdoin. If you knew anything about these schools - and their Econ programs - you would be contributing to the conversation instead of going on about chest thumping.

And I'm not trying to "boost" Williams. I don't care if your kid applies to Williams. I'm an alum, not an admissions officer. I'm responding to a statement about the quality of Econ programs at a few NESCACs.

Econ literally doesn't appear in the title of this thread or the in the original post's question. Your "I went to Williams and Williams and Amherst have better reputations than Bowdoin, Midd, and Colby. It's not even close!" did not qualify the claim only in the context of Econ. Similarly, you are saying now that Williams and Amherst are more rigorous. More rigorous in everything? Just Econ? Say so if that's what you mean.

But even in the context of Econ, you are indeed just chest thumping if you don't provide more than anecdotes about how your school is so much better than other elite (top 10 in the case of two!) schools "it's not close!". To think doing is "contributing to the conversation" is misguided, because you are giving people a reason to hold your college in lower esteem, not higher.

+1 This poster is correct.

Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me you don’t know anything. The post was in response to a comment about Econ programs. Since you are not capable of using your mouse, I’ll do the work for you. The post I replied to was: “Econ majors at the top half of schools (Williams, Amherst, Middlebiuru, Borodin, Colby, etc.) have strong connections to Wall Street compared to comparable schools.”


If you think Amherst is still rigorous you are sadly misinformed.
And Amherst and Williams are more rigorous in everything. Look at the quality of the applicants, the quality of the professors, etc. I can’t believe you’re trying to debate this.

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Very underrated set of schools.

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Back in the old country - wow, if you’re representative of NECSAC people, no way is my kid going to school which such ill-bred snots.

There's nothing inappropriate about the phrase "the old country" and nothing that warrants name-calling, you stupid idiot. You have issues - go take them out somewhere else. Too bad you'd try to deprive your kid of a superior education.

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nescacs and the claremont colleges are worth the money

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Anonymous wrote:nescacs and the claremont colleges are worth the money

Are worth the money for what goal ?

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Back in the old country - wow, if you’re representative of NECSAC people, no way is my kid going to school which such ill-bred snots.

There's nothing inappropriate about the phrase "the old country" and nothing that warrants name-calling, you stupid idiot. You have issues - go take them out somewhere else. Too bad you'd try to deprive your kid of a superior education.

Wow, did I land one or what?

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Before this thread I was convinced the biggest issue with Williams was the isolation. Which to be fair I could see appealing to some.

But now... wow.

I hope all the above nastiness is from a single outlier alum.

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Before this thread I was convinced the biggest issue with Williams was the isolation. Which to be fair I could see appealing to some.

But now... wow.

I hope all the above nastiness is from a single outlier alum.

Or from someone pretending to be from Williams to make Williams look bad.