Do you consider state laws/health care access effecting your child when selecting college?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I am an outlier, but not planning on my kid getting pregnant at college. But I'm in full support of banning abortion after 15 weeks- I have trouble how parents feel otherwise. You KNOW what this fetus becomes. At 15 weeks we know enough that the fetus is capable of feeling, so really don't understand how people can be pro-abortion at this point. Totally understand f-ups happen and the women shouldn't bear the brunt of it for life if they aren't ready but 15 weeks is plenty of time to stop things before it turns into a human that feels pain.


Oh yes, you aren’t planning on it, unlike all those other parents who WERE planning on their daughters getting pregnant in college. I guess my best friend from high school was planning on getting attacked and raped at 4pm by a random stranger with a knife in an alley next to her dorm, but YOUR daughter is making no such plans so she should be fine.


Again, I don't quite get this. If she were raped, she would take the morning after pill. If her birth control pills failed she would get an early abortion. If early abortion is banned outright, I will take her elsewhere. There are a lot of options between regulating abortion and having 3rd trimester abortions legal. I mean seriously, how can any parent of a child support it? I honestly and sincerely dont see it. There will always be plenty of options for early abortions in the US but honestly its just easiest to put the girls on the pill or IUD, they are headed there anyway realistically. Who among us is still practicing natural family planning these days?


This is such bad faith framing. Nobody gets 3rd trimester abortions without an extremely good reason, such as finding out that the fetus is non-viable. This information is easily ascertainable. People only bring up their trimester elective abortions when they want to engage in a debate on the basis of emotion rather than facts. But as long as this is the argument you want to have, I, the parent of three beloved children, find it abhorrent and unconscionable that you think the government should force women to remain pregnant with non-viable children, to suffer for months, risk permanent injury through pregnancy and childbirth, and then to hold their babies as they suffer and die painfully shortly after birth. Those are the people getting third trimester abortions. You are a monster.


So I almost died with my first child. I was very healthy and my pregnancy was progressing when boom. I was diagnosed with a rare disease of pregnancy and fortunately I lived in an area where i could access excellent emergency acute care and a top level NICU. The difference for me and my preemie was access to health care. People in other parts of the US without the same access to health care. One of my kids has a serious chronic medical condition. It has affected how we travel. It is risky traveling to places without ready access to medical care. We’ve had things go wrong and being far from good health care in an emergency is scary and stressful. We are discussing these issues with our kids because it is both a quality of life issue and a health and safety issue. We’ve experienced that first hand and think it is irresponsible to not at least think about and discuss it.



Ok but all if that is irrelevant-your still going to get the same xlnt care for yourself and a premie in Texas.


And if the premie died? Now you also have to worry that someone will think it was an abortion and you are fighting a legal battle in addition to grieving. No way in hell would I want to be living in TX while having a difficult pregnancy (or at any time)
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Anonymous wrote:Well, I am considering moving us to MD right now for the sake of my daughters. That actually puts a couple more schools in play...and takes a couple off the list

We'll see.

But, I absolutely will not be sending my child into a state where she could die because a doctor refuses to save her from an ectopic pregnancy or sepsis or an incomplete miscarriage.


Same here. The fact we have the means to pay for birth control or a procedure would not save DD in an emergency. It's better to not be there at all. Plus, I'm not confident birth control will remain legal and available in a lot of those places.

I have a daughter, but it's also an issue for boys who don't want to become young dads, or who might be bi curious or closeted.


This. I will not send DD to any state where women are treated so horribly.
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My kids have both taken state laws into consideration when choosing their own colleges. My daughter is sticking with the east coast colleges and it’s not looking anywhere down south. And when I asked her why, as I was thinking about money, she mentioned laws and attitudes
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.



Maybe tell her not to sleep around?

+1. It’s like they are expecting their daughters to get pregnant and that it’s routine.


Oh, right, your perfect children won’t have sex until marriage, right?

I was a good responsible girl and top student. Didn’t stop me from having sex with my HS boyfriend at 16. Doesn’t make me a slut - makes me a completely normal human. I took precautions - we used 2 forms of protection. So I was a sexually responsible human teen.

If you think your college students aren’t having sex, I have a bridge to sell you


If you think all college girls get pregnant, I have a bigger bridge to sell you. If you think birth control and condoms are a made up invention, I’ve got a second bridge to sell you.


If you think your daughter can't fall victim to rape, I have a bridge to sell you.


If you think abortions are in place for only or majority for that reason, I’ve got a better bridge to sell you.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.



Maybe tell her not to sleep around?

+1. It’s like they are expecting their daughters to get pregnant and that it’s routine.


Oh, right, your perfect children won’t have sex until marriage, right?

I was a good responsible girl and top student. Didn’t stop me from having sex with my HS boyfriend at 16. Doesn’t make me a slut - makes me a completely normal human. I took precautions - we used 2 forms of protection. So I was a sexually responsible human teen.

If you think your college students aren’t having sex, I have a bridge to sell you


If you think all college girls get pregnant, I have a bigger bridge to sell you. If you think birth control and condoms are a made up invention, I’ve got a second bridge to sell you.


If you think your daughter can't fall victim to rape, I have a bridge to sell you.


If you think abortions are in place for only or majority for that reason, I’ve got a better bridge to sell you.


No one said it was, but it does happen.

Also, why a woman chooses to end a pregnancy is none of your business
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.



Maybe tell her not to sleep around?

+1. It’s like they are expecting their daughters to get pregnant and that it’s routine.


Oh, right, your perfect children won’t have sex until marriage, right?

I was a good responsible girl and top student. Didn’t stop me from having sex with my HS boyfriend at 16. Doesn’t make me a slut - makes me a completely normal human. I took precautions - we used 2 forms of protection. So I was a sexually responsible human teen.

If you think your college students aren’t having sex, I have a bridge to sell you


If you think all college girls get pregnant, I have a bigger bridge to sell you. If you think birth control and condoms are a made up invention, I’ve got a second bridge to sell you.


If you think your daughter can't fall victim to rape, I have a bridge to sell you.


If you think abortions are in place for only or majority for that reason, I’ve got a better bridge to sell you.


No one said it was, but it does happen.

Also, why a woman chooses to end a pregnancy is none of your business


Did I ask you why you’ve had abortions?
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.



Maybe tell her not to sleep around?


What if someone is raped?

What if they don’t “sleep around” but get pregnant?

Why do you assume this would only happen to someone who “sleeps around”?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I am an outlier, but not planning on my kid getting pregnant at college. But I'm in full support of banning abortion after 15 weeks- I have trouble how parents feel otherwise. You KNOW what this fetus becomes. At 15 weeks we know enough that the fetus is capable of feeling, so really don't understand how people can be pro-abortion at this point. Totally understand f-ups happen and the women shouldn't bear the brunt of it for life if they aren't ready but 15 weeks is plenty of time to stop things before it turns into a human that feels pain.


What does “pro-abortion” mean? I have never met anyone who is pro-abortion before.


DP. Abortion is health care. I'm pro-health care, so I'm pro-abortion.


I am not for abortion. I am for choice.

Being “for” abortion makes no sense. Being for the choice of abortion does make sense.
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Anonymous wrote:I guess I am an outlier, but not planning on my kid getting pregnant at college. But I'm in full support of banning abortion after 15 weeks- I have trouble how parents feel otherwise. You KNOW what this fetus becomes. At 15 weeks we know enough that the fetus is capable of feeling, so really don't understand how people can be pro-abortion at this point. Totally understand f-ups happen and the women shouldn't bear the brunt of it for life if they aren't ready but 15 weeks is plenty of time to stop things before it turns into a human that feels pain.


What specifically are you doing to help prevent an unplanned pregnancy when your adult child is in college? Abstinence only answers not accepted.


Birth control pills. But if they did get pregnant, they would't be waiting months to have an abortion.


They will probably be outlawed next because they “kill.”
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Anonymous wrote:As far as abortion laws go, that would not be a determining factor since we have the wherewithal to get the necessary medication elsewhere, and I will be fully open with my kids regarding their options. It’s the women without support and resources who will suffer the brunt of those laws.


Well you need to think about it, because these states are passing laws whereby the can prosecute people leaving their state to go get abortions in states in which it is legal. So if you bring your child home to MD for an abortion and then send them back to Texas, Texas can still go after them. That’s how these laws are being written. Argue all you want that it’s unconstitutional, but this Supreme Court won’t care.


First they came for the Jews and I did nothing because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the the X and Y and Z and I did nothing because I wasn’t part of the X, Y or Z groups. Then they came for me and no one was left to save me.

Remember that when you say only the poor women without resources would be affected.


Then they came for the babies....


Actually, they are. Look at the Christian adoption agency in Michigan run by the former secretary of education’s family. Her billionaire family runs adoptions agencies. Get more children raised fundamentalist Christian, by gosh.
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Anonymous wrote:I guess I am an outlier, but not planning on my kid getting pregnant at college. But I'm in full support of banning abortion after 15 weeks- I have trouble how parents feel otherwise. You KNOW what this fetus becomes. At 15 weeks we know enough that the fetus is capable of feeling, so really don't understand how people can be pro-abortion at this point. Totally understand f-ups happen and the women shouldn't bear the brunt of it for life if they aren't ready but 15 weeks is plenty of time to stop things before it turns into a human that feels pain.


What specifically are you doing to help prevent an unplanned pregnancy when your adult child is in college? Abstinence only answers not accepted.


Birth control pills. But if they did get pregnant, they would't be waiting months to have an abortion.


They will probably be outlawed next because they “kill.”


Can you stop with the outlandish reach?
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids decided never to go to Texas or Florida much less attend college there. I support those decisions although there aren’t any good colleges I either state anyway.


BS. There are great colleges in Texas. One being Rice which is likely better than what you attended,
if you attended college at all, and UT which has one of the best engineering programs in the country. You snarky add on is a typical juvenile response.


DP. That sounds like a clever response, except it doesn't take a lot of effort to identify the only two good schools in a state twice the size and with half the population of Germany.


We are hysterically laughing over her at this! I’m embarrassed for you.
Here’s another statistic. Texas had the 10th largest economy on the world. Yeah, it sucks so bad!


Then why can’t Texas keep the lights on?
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Tx also already has an incredibly high maternal mortality rate

This is just going to make it worse
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I don't want my kid to me a mom as an undergraduate. Schools like Washington University are totally out now that Missouri is criminalizing abortions for people who become pregnant in Missouri regardless of where the procedure is preformed.



Maybe tell her not to sleep around?

+1. It’s like they are expecting their daughters to get pregnant and that it’s routine.


Oh, right, your perfect children won’t have sex until marriage, right?

I was a good responsible girl and top student. Didn’t stop me from having sex with my HS boyfriend at 16. Doesn’t make me a slut - makes me a completely normal human. I took precautions - we used 2 forms of protection. So I was a sexually responsible human teen.

If you think your college students aren’t having sex, I have a bridge to sell you


If you think all college girls get pregnant, I have a bigger bridge to sell you. If you think birth control and condoms are a made up invention, I’ve got a second bridge to sell you.


Nowhere did I say any of that

I specifically said I was using 2 forms of birth control at 16. I believe in birth control and std protection.

Not all teens are that responsible. And you can preach abstinence all you want - most of them will have sex before college is over. And, even if they use protection, none of those are 100% effective

Do I think every girl having sex in college gets pregnant? No. But I also don’t want to lose my child because something did happen and the state she is in doesn’t allow a life saving operation in worst case scenario

Teach your kids about safe sex, obviously, and feel free to tell them that the only truly safe sex is no sex (they probably won’t listen, but sure, say it). Maybe arm them with mace and/or teach them self defense in case she is attacked.

But stop being naive - things do happen no matter how well you think you parented them and/or how responsible they might be.


Abstinence doesn’t work, because kids have sex. Anyone here who thinks it does needs to look at the data that clearly shows that sex education prevents pregnancy. Keeping people ignorant as to how it all works and preaching abstinence has the opposite result and causes more unwanted pregnancies.

While we are at it, your boys are learning about sex from YouTube channels and pornographic movies and then wonder why their partners don’t make the same noises as the women in the movies.

The above is what happens a when you keep kids ignorant.


Source: Girls and Sex by Peggy Orenstein


Read the research.
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Anonymous wrote:I guess I am an outlier, but not planning on my kid getting pregnant at college. But I'm in full support of banning abortion after 15 weeks- I have trouble how parents feel otherwise. You KNOW what this fetus becomes. At 15 weeks we know enough that the fetus is capable of feeling, so really don't understand how people can be pro-abortion at this point. Totally understand f-ups happen and the women shouldn't bear the brunt of it for life if they aren't ready but 15 weeks is plenty of time to stop things before it turns into a human that feels pain.


What specifically are you doing to help prevent an unplanned pregnancy when your adult child is in college? Abstinence only answers not accepted.


Birth control pills. But if they did get pregnant, they would't be waiting months to have an abortion.


They will probably be outlawed next because they “kill.”


Can you stop with the outlandish reach?


Oh, good - another person who hasn’t been paying attention
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