Do you consider state laws/health care access effecting your child when selecting college?

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Anonymous wrote:birth control is not one hundred percent effective and is certainly not available to a rape victim and we will not be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies.

No thank you to states trying to force unwanted pregnancies.

Birth control is highly effective and you can double up with a condom. You are full of excuses.
States are not forcing anyone to get pregnant. How can a state force an unwanted pregnancy. You and someone else are responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

DP: I believe in my right to decide not to have my body continue growing a fetus into a baby whether I was raped or not, whether my birth control methods were effective or not, whether the pregnancy endangers my health or not. I do not believe any 'mistakes' you believe I made force my body into growing a fetus into a baby. You cannot force your arbitrary religious definition that a fetus is an independent person on me. I'm 100% happy to let your beliefs govern all your decisions. Not mine.

Nobody forced a fetus into your body to grow.

Nope, my body grew it and I can decide if and when it will stop it.

If you can decide then why are you concerned?

Because when a woman chooses to stop a pregnancy, she should have safe, legal medical care she requires. Women die from illegal abortions, pregnancy, and childbirth. Lives are on the line. Lives of real life, living women. Who you don't seem to GAF about.

Misogynistic POS.

Legal abortions are not immune to women dying. Nice try on cherry picking.

Fewer women will die from legal abortions than illegal abortions. FACT.

And more women die from pregnancy than legal abortions.

More women get pregnant than have abortions. Keep trying.

The percentage of women who die from giving birth is higher than the percentage of women who die from a legal abortion.

Yup. Maternal mortality sucks in the US.




And for the last year available (2018), TWO total women died from legal abortions in the US. Out of 619,591 abortions. Before RvW, hundreds of women were dying every year.

Not a justifiable reason to allow unnecessary abortion ms no matter how much you twist it. Women are not getting abortions in case of death.

If abortion isn't safe/legal, more women will die.

From unsafe abortions.

From higher #s of risky pregnancies.

It's not that complicated to understand if you have basic understand of pregnancy/reproductive health.

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Anonymous wrote:birth control is not one hundred percent effective and is certainly not available to a rape victim and we will not be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies.

No thank you to states trying to force unwanted pregnancies.

Birth control is highly effective and you can double up with a condom. You are full of excuses.
States are not forcing anyone to get pregnant. How can a state force an unwanted pregnancy. You and someone else are responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

DP: I believe in my right to decide not to have my body continue growing a fetus into a baby whether I was raped or not, whether my birth control methods were effective or not, whether the pregnancy endangers my health or not. I do not believe any 'mistakes' you believe I made force my body into growing a fetus into a baby. You cannot force your arbitrary religious definition that a fetus is an independent person on me. I'm 100% happy to let your beliefs govern all your decisions. Not mine.

Nobody forced a fetus into your body to grow.

Nope, my body grew it and I can decide if and when it will stop it.

If you can decide then why are you concerned?

Because when a woman chooses to stop a pregnancy, she should have safe, legal medical care she requires. Women die from illegal abortions, pregnancy, and childbirth. Lives are on the line. Lives of real life, living women. Who you don't seem to GAF about.

Misogynistic POS.

Legal abortions are not immune to women dying. Nice try on cherry picking.

Fewer women will die from legal abortions than illegal abortions. FACT.

And more women die from pregnancy than legal abortions.

More women get pregnant than have abortions. Keep trying.

The percentage of women who die from giving birth is higher than the percentage of women who die from a legal abortion.

Yup. Maternal mortality sucks in the US.




And for the last year available (2018), TWO total women died from legal abortions in the US. Out of 619,591 abortions. Before RvW, hundreds of women were dying every year.

Not a justifiable reason to allow unnecessary abortion ms no matter how much you twist it. Women are not getting abortions in case of death.

If abortion isn't safe/legal, more women will die.

From unsafe abortions.

From higher #s of risky pregnancies.

It's not that complicated to understand if you have basic understand of pregnancy/reproductive health.

Birth control is safe and legal. Condoms are safe and legal. It’s not that complicated to understand if you have basic understanding of pregnancy/reproductive health.

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Anonymous wrote:birth control is not one hundred percent effective and is certainly not available to a rape victim and we will not be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies.

No thank you to states trying to force unwanted pregnancies.

Birth control is highly effective and you can double up with a condom. You are full of excuses.
States are not forcing anyone to get pregnant. How can a state force an unwanted pregnancy. You and someone else are responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

DP: I believe in my right to decide not to have my body continue growing a fetus into a baby whether I was raped or not, whether my birth control methods were effective or not, whether the pregnancy endangers my health or not. I do not believe any 'mistakes' you believe I made force my body into growing a fetus into a baby. You cannot force your arbitrary religious definition that a fetus is an independent person on me. I'm 100% happy to let your beliefs govern all your decisions. Not mine.

Nobody forced a fetus into your body to grow.

Nope, my body grew it and I can decide if and when it will stop it.

If you can decide then why are you concerned?

Because when a woman chooses to stop a pregnancy, she should have safe, legal medical care she requires. Women die from illegal abortions, pregnancy, and childbirth. Lives are on the line. Lives of real life, living women. Who you don't seem to GAF about.

Misogynistic POS.

Legal abortions are not immune to women dying. Nice try on cherry picking.

Fewer women will die from legal abortions than illegal abortions. FACT.

And more women die from pregnancy than legal abortions.

All of the more reason to have safe abortions available for women who may die from pregnancy. More will die from pregnancy without legal, safe abortion.

All the more reason to avoid preganancy.

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Anonymous wrote:birth control is not one hundred percent effective and is certainly not available to a rape victim and we will not be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies.

No thank you to states trying to force unwanted pregnancies.

Birth control is highly effective and you can double up with a condom. You are full of excuses.
States are not forcing anyone to get pregnant. How can a state force an unwanted pregnancy. You and someone else are responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

DP: I believe in my right to decide not to have my body continue growing a fetus into a baby whether I was raped or not, whether my birth control methods were effective or not, whether the pregnancy endangers my health or not. I do not believe any 'mistakes' you believe I made force my body into growing a fetus into a baby. You cannot force your arbitrary religious definition that a fetus is an independent person on me. I'm 100% happy to let your beliefs govern all your decisions. Not mine.

Nobody forced a fetus into your body to grow.

Nope, my body grew it and I can decide if and when it will stop it.

If you can decide then why are you concerned?

Because when a woman chooses to stop a pregnancy, she should have safe, legal medical care she requires. Women die from illegal abortions, pregnancy, and childbirth. Lives are on the line. Lives of real life, living women. Who you don't seem to GAF about.

Misogynistic POS.

Legal abortions are not immune to women dying. Nice try on cherry picking.

Fewer women will die from legal abortions than illegal abortions. FACT.

And more women die from pregnancy than legal abortions.

More women get pregnant than have abortions. Keep trying.

The percentage of women who die from giving birth is higher than the percentage of women who die from a legal abortion.

Yup. Maternal mortality sucks in the US.




And for the last year available (2018), TWO total women died from legal abortions in the US. Out of 619,591 abortions. Before RvW, hundreds of women were dying every year.

Not a justifiable reason to allow unnecessary abortion ms no matter how much you twist it. Women are not getting abortions in case of death.

We've already given plenty of justifiable reasons to not force women to continue unwanted pregnancies, not risking death is also a good one.

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Anonymous wrote:birth control is not one hundred percent effective and is certainly not available to a rape victim and we will not be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies.

No thank you to states trying to force unwanted pregnancies.

Birth control is highly effective and you can double up with a condom. You are full of excuses.
States are not forcing anyone to get pregnant. How can a state force an unwanted pregnancy. You and someone else are responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

DP: I believe in my right to decide not to have my body continue growing a fetus into a baby whether I was raped or not, whether my birth control methods were effective or not, whether the pregnancy endangers my health or not. I do not believe any 'mistakes' you believe I made force my body into growing a fetus into a baby. You cannot force your arbitrary religious definition that a fetus is an independent person on me. I'm 100% happy to let your beliefs govern all your decisions. Not mine.

Nobody forced a fetus into your body to grow.

Nope, my body grew it and I can decide if and when it will stop it.

If you can decide then why are you concerned?

Because when a woman chooses to stop a pregnancy, she should have safe, legal medical care she requires. Women die from illegal abortions, pregnancy, and childbirth. Lives are on the line. Lives of real life, living women. Who you don't seem to GAF about.

Misogynistic POS.

Legal abortions are not immune to women dying. Nice try on cherry picking.

Fewer women will die from legal abortions than illegal abortions. FACT.

And more women die from pregnancy than legal abortions.

More women get pregnant than have abortions. Keep trying.

The percentage of women who die from giving birth is higher than the percentage of women who die from a legal abortion.

Yup. Maternal mortality sucks in the US.




And for the last year available (2018), TWO total women died from legal abortions in the US. Out of 619,591 abortions. Before RvW, hundreds of women were dying every year.

Not a justifiable reason to allow unnecessary abortion ms no matter how much you twist it. Women are not getting abortions in case of death.

If abortion isn't safe/legal, more women will die.

From unsafe abortions.

From higher #s of risky pregnancies.

It's not that complicated to understand if you have basic understand of pregnancy/reproductive health.

Birth control is safe and legal. Condoms are safe and legal. It’s not that complicated to understand if you have basic understanding of pregnancy/reproductive health.

Again, there are MANY reasons why a woman may want to end her pregnancy that have nothing to do with contraceptives. Abortion isn't birth control (as you're parroting from FoxNews), it's medical care.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:birth control is not one hundred percent effective and is certainly not available to a rape victim and we will not be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies.

No thank you to states trying to force unwanted pregnancies.

Birth control is highly effective and you can double up with a condom. You are full of excuses.
States are not forcing anyone to get pregnant. How can a state force an unwanted pregnancy. You and someone else are responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

DP: I believe in my right to decide not to have my body continue growing a fetus into a baby whether I was raped or not, whether my birth control methods were effective or not, whether the pregnancy endangers my health or not. I do not believe any 'mistakes' you believe I made force my body into growing a fetus into a baby. You cannot force your arbitrary religious definition that a fetus is an independent person on me. I'm 100% happy to let your beliefs govern all your decisions. Not mine.

Nobody forced a fetus into your body to grow.

Nope, my body grew it and I can decide if and when it will stop it.

If you can decide then why are you concerned?

Because when a woman chooses to stop a pregnancy, she should have safe, legal medical care she requires. Women die from illegal abortions, pregnancy, and childbirth. Lives are on the line. Lives of real life, living women. Who you don't seem to GAF about.

Misogynistic POS.

Legal abortions are not immune to women dying. Nice try on cherry picking.

Fewer women will die from legal abortions than illegal abortions. FACT.

And more women die from pregnancy than legal abortions.

All of the more reason to have safe abortions available for women who may die from pregnancy. More will die from pregnancy without legal, safe abortion.

All the more reason to avoid preganancy.

Agree. Let's not ban contraceptives as some in the GOP want to do.

Let's make long-acting reversible contraceptives (IUDs, implants) free and easily accessible for everyone.

Let's open up more clinics to offer counseling, education, healthcare, and contraceptives.

Let's offer better sex ed in schools.

There are many things that people have been pushing for to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. Let's get the GOP on board with those to get it done.

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Anonymous wrote:100%. My DD is thrilled that she doesn’t have to look at schools in Ohio although she still may apply to Indiana. We’ve got AZ, NM on lost and just added CA. Not just about abortion it’s about her not being able to get access to healthcare she may need and yes giving money to states that support this. In fact we’ll be canceling a few college tours and will let them know specifically this is the reason why.

I’m sure those states are in tears over you cancelling.

Well given that the majority of people in this country support abortion rights, and an even higher percentage of educated people in this country support abortion rights, it could cut into a lot of enrollment if a lot of people are avoiding states that restrict rights -especially private schools that rely on OOS students and public schools that were trying to grow their national profile and rely on higher OOS student tuition payments. Even people who say they are pro-life might be a little hesitant to send their son to a school where he might have to pay child support indefinitely because he got a girl pregnant in a state that doesn't allow abortion. They might not want him to roll the odds every time he has sex over 4 years that the condom is going to work perfectly. Even if you assume the 98% effectiveness in a lab setting (condoms are typically 85% effective in actual practices of college students at preventing pregnancy), if he has sex 100 times in 4 years, odds would say he could be on the hook for 2 unplanned pregnancies. Pre Roe v. Wade it was a lot harder to identify the father and make him pay, but now with dna testing and digital withdrawal from paychecks, it's a lot easier.

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Anonymous wrote:100%. My DD is thrilled that she doesn’t have to look at schools in Ohio although she still may apply to Indiana. We’ve got AZ, NM on lost and just added CA. Not just about abortion it’s about her not being able to get access to healthcare she may need and yes giving money to states that support this. In fact we’ll be canceling a few college tours and will let them know specifically this is the reason why.

I’m sure those states are in tears over you cancelling.

Well given that the majority of people in this country support abortion rights, and an even higher percentage of educated people in this country support abortion rights, it could cut into a lot of enrollment if a lot of people are avoiding states that restrict rights -especially private schools that rely on OOS students and public schools that were trying to grow their national profile and rely on higher OOS student tuition payments. Even people who say they are pro-life might be a little hesitant to send their son to a school where he might have to pay child support indefinitely because he got a girl pregnant in a state that doesn't allow abortion. They might not want him to roll the odds every time he has sex over 4 years that the condom is going to work perfectly. Even if you assume the 98% effectiveness in a lab setting (condoms are typically 85% effective in actual practices of college students at preventing pregnancy), if he has sex 100 times in 4 years, odds would say he could be on the hook for 2 unplanned pregnancies. Pre Roe v. Wade it was a lot harder to identify the father and make him pay, but now with dna testing and digital withdrawal from paychecks, it's a lot easier.

I do sometimes wonder whether the Republicans--esp Republican men-- have thought this part through--how the world has changed since 1973. Men will have to pay child support to women who decide they want to keep the baby and not marry them and it's a lot easier to establish paternity (just save a condom, a toothbrush, nail clippings, a hair with follicle from everyone you have sex with --or a court-ordered cheek swab), track people down with cell phone location data and force payment. You can bet if this all goes through armies of lawyers will devote themselves to this pro bono.

Women can decide to use additional birth control besides the condom (or not), take Plan B (or not). They know when they ovulate. Men can just throw on a condom and hope for the best.

Women also have a lot more career options than they used to, there isn't the same shame in getting pregnant or being a single parent etc. Yes, plenty of women with unwanted pregnancies will seek illegal abortions, but more than they expect may just decide that they might like to form their family by having a child support check from a guy they don't have to live with or marry and let it supplement their own career. I don't think they are going to get as many infants put up for adoption as they think.

I think when we frame losing abortion rights as sending women back in time we are making a mistake--I think we should let people know the reality: women have a lot more power now. Men are going to be financially on the hook for all these babies this time and women can still be independent as a single mom. Even praised for it. Not everyone is going to want to get married or put the baby up for adoption or stop having sex outside of marriage. Even if the laws go back in time, women aren't. I think they need to know what the situation they are angling for will be. I think every Dem should be letting every single male, every Republican married and divorced guy who is also on Tinder etc. know this. Don't play into their fantasies of controlling women again--let them see how men's financial and sexual lives will be impacted by these changes and see how much they support changes to state laws.

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Anonymous wrote:100%. My DD is thrilled that she doesn’t have to look at schools in Ohio although she still may apply to Indiana. We’ve got AZ, NM on lost and just added CA. Not just about abortion it’s about her not being able to get access to healthcare she may need and yes giving money to states that support this. In fact we’ll be canceling a few college tours and will let them know specifically this is the reason why.

I’m sure those states are in tears over you cancelling.

Well given that the majority of people in this country support abortion rights, and an even higher percentage of educated people in this country support abortion rights, it could cut into a lot of enrollment if a lot of people are avoiding states that restrict rights -especially private schools that rely on OOS students and public schools that were trying to grow their national profile and rely on higher OOS student tuition payments. Even people who say they are pro-life might be a little hesitant to send their son to a school where he might have to pay child support indefinitely because he got a girl pregnant in a state that doesn't allow abortion. They might not want him to roll the odds every time he has sex over 4 years that the condom is going to work perfectly. Even if you assume the 98% effectiveness in a lab setting (condoms are typically 85% effective in actual practices of college students at preventing pregnancy), if he has sex 100 times in 4 years, odds would say he could be on the hook for 2 unplanned pregnancies. Pre Roe v. Wade it was a lot harder to identify the father and make him pay, but now with dna testing and digital withdrawal from paychecks, it's a lot easier.

Absolutely. Son or daughter... not sending them off to a school in a state about to erase 50 years of roe v wade protecting reproductive rights. Much better options elsewhere. My kids will be educated in a forward looking state, not one in reverse.

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Anonymous wrote:birth control is not one hundred percent effective and is certainly not available to a rape victim and we will not be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies.

No thank you to states trying to force unwanted pregnancies.

Birth control is highly effective and you can double up with a condom. You are full of excuses.
States are not forcing anyone to get pregnant. How can a state force an unwanted pregnancy. You and someone else are responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.

DP: I believe in my right to decide not to have my body continue growing a fetus into a baby whether I was raped or not, whether my birth control methods were effective or not, whether the pregnancy endangers my health or not. I do not believe any 'mistakes' you believe I made force my body into growing a fetus into a baby. You cannot force your arbitrary religious definition that a fetus is an independent person on me. I'm 100% happy to let your beliefs govern all your decisions. Not mine.

Nobody forced a fetus into your body to grow.

Nope, my body grew it and I can decide if and when it will stop it.

If you can decide then why are you concerned?

Because when a woman chooses to stop a pregnancy, she should have safe, legal medical care she requires. Women die from illegal abortions, pregnancy, and childbirth. Lives are on the line. Lives of real life, living women. Who you don't seem to GAF about.

Misogynistic POS.

Legal abortions are not immune to women dying. Nice try on cherry picking.

Fewer women will die from legal abortions than illegal abortions. FACT.

And more women die from pregnancy than legal abortions.

All of the more reason to have safe abortions available for women who may die from pregnancy. More will die from pregnancy without legal, safe abortion.

All the more reason to avoid preganancy.

Agree. Let's not ban contraceptives as some in the GOP want to do.

Let's make long-acting reversible contraceptives (IUDs, implants) free and easily accessible for everyone.

Let's open up more clinics to offer counseling, education, healthcare, and contraceptives.

Let's offer better sex ed in schools.

There are many things that people have been pushing for to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. Let's get the GOP on board with those to get it done.

We should ALL support these things.