US News rankings are out with individual magnet program rankings as well

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Anonymous wrote:Lol US News had to stay relevant somehow so they used old test score data dating all the way back to school years where some the test takers probably have bachelor’s degrees at this point. These rankings are a joke. So many schools that made such strong leaps in test scores over the last couple of years now have to have lower rankings because of test scores from several years ago (including when Maryland still administered the PARCC exams) are hurting their averages

+1. This is all about clickbait for their website.

Talk about sour grapes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol US News had to stay relevant somehow so they used old test score data dating all the way back to school years where some the test takers probably have bachelor’s degrees at this point. These rankings are a joke. So many schools that made such strong leaps in test scores over the last couple of years now have to have lower rankings because of test scores from several years ago (including when Maryland still administered the PARCC exams) are hurting their averages

+1. This is all about clickbait for their website.

Talk about sour grapes.

Please. If it weren't for all the chatter around their rankings, they'd be out of business.

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Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Blair envy is very strong with that group.

there is no such things as Blair envy from the group you think has envy. If they wanted to send their kids to Blair they could have traded the cheapest starter home zoned for BCC and bought one of the nicest homes in the entire Blair zone. There is no exclusivity to the cheapest area in close in Montgomery County and one of the things that drags blair down is the copious amounts of low income housing zoned for it. People take less home not to go to Blair, the vast majority of people zoned for Blair can't afford nicer areas of the county or were willing to compromise their children's school for a nicer house.

The people with Blair envy are fellow DCC residents with worse options. To be honest most people not in a consortium paid 7 figures specifically not to go to school like Blair. Maybe we have different definitions of envy

Not really You're just misinformed. There are many tigers whose cubs didn't make the cut and suffer from this Blair envy. They typically live in Western Montgomery county in areas like Potomac. They love to complain about changes to the selection process or where the magnet is geographically located. The term sour grapes comes to mind.

Don't the sour grapes make wine?

Love it! Notice how the magnet parents say "Blair" and not "Blair SMACS"?

I don't disagree that Blair SMACs has smart kids, right now. The irony is that the Blair magnet cherry-picked most of the "W" kids to obtain the competition results in the first place. ES and MS magnets are both lottery now. Hopefully the board will be half swapped out this September and the Magnet will return to a competitive admissions process again? My guess is that once the effect of the lottery starts feeding into HS admission decisions (starting with the freshman class of 2023), whatever "Blair envy" remains will evaporate pretty quickly?

SMACS is an island and world unto itself. There's no law that states it has to remain at Blair. It could always be relocated to help alleviate the overcrowding and reduce program costs? Pride comes before the fall.

Oh no that is incorrect. It isn't an island at all. These kids take over 50% of their classes with the regular school population. These programs are fully integrated into the school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Blair envy is very strong with that group.

there is no such things as Blair envy from the group you think has envy. If they wanted to send their kids to Blair they could have traded the cheapest starter home zoned for BCC and bought one of the nicest homes in the entire Blair zone. There is no exclusivity to the cheapest area in close in Montgomery County and one of the things that drags blair down is the copious amounts of low income housing zoned for it. People take less home not to go to Blair, the vast majority of people zoned for Blair can't afford nicer areas of the county or were willing to compromise their children's school for a nicer house.

The people with Blair envy are fellow DCC residents with worse options. To be honest most people not in a consortium paid 7 figures specifically not to go to school like Blair. Maybe we have different definitions of envy

Not really You're just misinformed. There are many tigers whose cubs didn't make the cut and suffer from this Blair envy. They typically live in Western Montgomery county in areas like Potomac. They love to complain about changes to the selection process or where the magnet is geographically located. The term sour grapes comes to mind.

Don't the sour grapes make wine?

Love it! Notice how the magnet parents say "Blair" and not "Blair SMACS"?

I don't disagree that Blair SMACs has smart kids, right now. The irony is that the Blair magnet cherry-picked most of the "W" kids to obtain the competition results in the first place. ES and MS magnets are both lottery now. Hopefully the board will be half swapped out this September and the Magnet will return to a competitive admissions process again? My guess is that once the effect of the lottery starts feeding into HS admission decisions (starting with the freshman class of 2023), whatever "Blair envy" remains will evaporate pretty quickly?

SMACS is an island and world unto itself. There's no law that states it has to remain at Blair. It could always be relocated to help alleviate the overcrowding and reduce program costs? Pride comes before the fall.

Oh no that is incorrect. It isn't an island at all. These kids take over 50% of their classes with the regular school population. These programs are fully integrated into the school.

The other thing the poster fails to grasp is the vast majority of kids in SMCS are from the DCC. This is also true of TPMS. There are a few W kids but things would be the same without them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Blair envy is very strong with that group.

there is no such things as Blair envy from the group you think has envy. If they wanted to send their kids to Blair they could have traded the cheapest starter home zoned for BCC and bought one of the nicest homes in the entire Blair zone. There is no exclusivity to the cheapest area in close in Montgomery County and one of the things that drags blair down is the copious amounts of low income housing zoned for it. People take less home not to go to Blair, the vast majority of people zoned for Blair can't afford nicer areas of the county or were willing to compromise their children's school for a nicer house.

The people with Blair envy are fellow DCC residents with worse options. To be honest most people not in a consortium paid 7 figures specifically not to go to school like Blair. Maybe we have different definitions of envy

Not really You're just misinformed. There are many tigers whose cubs didn't make the cut and suffer from this Blair envy. They typically live in Western Montgomery county in areas like Potomac. They love to complain about changes to the selection process or where the magnet is geographically located. The term sour grapes comes to mind.

Don't the sour grapes make wine?

Love it! Notice how the magnet parents say "Blair" and not "Blair SMACS"?

I don't disagree that Blair SMACs has smart kids, right now. The irony is that the Blair magnet cherry-picked most of the "W" kids to obtain the competition results in the first place. ES and MS magnets are both lottery now. Hopefully the board will be half swapped out this September and the Magnet will return to a competitive admissions process again? My guess is that once the effect of the lottery starts feeding into HS admission decisions (starting with the freshman class of 2023), whatever "Blair envy" remains will evaporate pretty quickly?

SMACS is an island and world unto itself. There's no law that states it has to remain at Blair. It could always be relocated to help alleviate the overcrowding and reduce program costs? Pride comes before the fall.

Oh no that is incorrect. It isn't an island at all. These kids take over 50% of their classes with the regular school population. These programs are fully integrated into the school.

The other thing the poster fails to grasp is the vast majority of kids in SMCS are from the DCC. This is also true of TPMS. There are a few W kids but things would be the same without them.

Not true at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Blair envy is very strong with that group.

there is no such things as Blair envy from the group you think has envy. If they wanted to send their kids to Blair they could have traded the cheapest starter home zoned for BCC and bought one of the nicest homes in the entire Blair zone. There is no exclusivity to the cheapest area in close in Montgomery County and one of the things that drags blair down is the copious amounts of low income housing zoned for it. People take less home not to go to Blair, the vast majority of people zoned for Blair can't afford nicer areas of the county or were willing to compromise their children's school for a nicer house.

The people with Blair envy are fellow DCC residents with worse options. To be honest most people not in a consortium paid 7 figures specifically not to go to school like Blair. Maybe we have different definitions of envy

Not really You're just misinformed. There are many tigers whose cubs didn't make the cut and suffer from this Blair envy. They typically live in Western Montgomery county in areas like Potomac. They love to complain about changes to the selection process or where the magnet is geographically located. The term sour grapes comes to mind.

Don't the sour grapes make wine?

Love it! Notice how the magnet parents say "Blair" and not "Blair SMACS"?

I don't disagree that Blair SMACs has smart kids, right now. The irony is that the Blair magnet cherry-picked most of the "W" kids to obtain the competition results in the first place. ES and MS magnets are both lottery now. Hopefully the board will be half swapped out this September and the Magnet will return to a competitive admissions process again? My guess is that once the effect of the lottery starts feeding into HS admission decisions (starting with the freshman class of 2023), whatever "Blair envy" remains will evaporate pretty quickly?

SMACS is an island and world unto itself. There's no law that states it has to remain at Blair. It could always be relocated to help alleviate the overcrowding and reduce program costs? Pride comes before the fall.

Oh no that is incorrect. It isn't an island at all. These kids take over 50% of their classes with the regular school population. These programs are fully integrated into the school.

If Blair SMACS is removed...metrics will drop hugelu. SAT average is around 1530 in SMACS. Maybe highest in the country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Blair envy is very strong with that group.

there is no such things as Blair envy from the group you think has envy. If they wanted to send their kids to Blair they could have traded the cheapest starter home zoned for BCC and bought one of the nicest homes in the entire Blair zone. There is no exclusivity to the cheapest area in close in Montgomery County and one of the things that drags blair down is the copious amounts of low income housing zoned for it. People take less home not to go to Blair, the vast majority of people zoned for Blair can't afford nicer areas of the county or were willing to compromise their children's school for a nicer house.

The people with Blair envy are fellow DCC residents with worse options. To be honest most people not in a consortium paid 7 figures specifically not to go to school like Blair. Maybe we have different definitions of envy

Not really You're just misinformed. There are many tigers whose cubs didn't make the cut and suffer from this Blair envy. They typically live in Western Montgomery county in areas like Potomac. They love to complain about changes to the selection process or where the magnet is geographically located. The term sour grapes comes to mind.

Don't the sour grapes make wine?

Love it! Notice how the magnet parents say "Blair" and not "Blair SMACS"?

I don't disagree that Blair SMACs has smart kids, right now. The irony is that the Blair magnet cherry-picked most of the "W" kids to obtain the competition results in the first place. ES and MS magnets are both lottery now. Hopefully the board will be half swapped out this September and the Magnet will return to a competitive admissions process again? My guess is that once the effect of the lottery starts feeding into HS admission decisions (starting with the freshman class of 2023), whatever "Blair envy" remains will evaporate pretty quickly?

SMACS is an island and world unto itself. There's no law that states it has to remain at Blair. It could always be relocated to help alleviate the overcrowding and reduce program costs? Pride comes before the fall.

Oh no that is incorrect. It isn't an island at all. These kids take over 50% of their classes with the regular school population. These programs are fully integrated into the school.

The other thing the poster fails to grasp is the vast majority of kids in SMCS are from the DCC. This is also true of TPMS. There are a few W kids but things would be the same without them.

That isn’t true, the magnets were so dominated by the W’s that they had to create a 25 seat set aside at Takoma for local kids because some years had so few that local parents were furious. It is true that most of the magnet kids come from Takoma but most of the Takoma kids come from outside the boundary save for the handout 25 slots

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Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Gerrymandering school boundaries to ensure less than 5% FARMS will help inflate standardized test averages when the county average is closer to 40%. This doesn't really mean much but it's the premise these silly rankings are based upon. It's unfortunate the rankings don't better reflect how well a school does with its students rather than the affluence or lack thereof of its constituents.

Most of the W’s aren’t gerrymandered, there are simply a minimum of unwashed masses near by. The real gerrymandering is in the DCC where the difference of a few streets could change the entire makeup of a school. Move the lines in any direction for Churchill or Whitman and you just pick up different million dollar homes. BCC and Walter Johnson were messed with already but it was to pick up parts of Kensington and Silver to boost their Mix not to avoid it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Gerrymandering school boundaries to ensure less than 5% FARMS will help inflate standardized test averages when the county average is closer to 40%. This doesn't really mean much but it's the premise these silly rankings are based upon. It's unfortunate the rankings don't better reflect how well a school does with its students rather than the affluence or lack thereof of its constituents.

Most of the W’s aren’t gerrymandered, there are simply a minimum of unwashed masses near by. The real gerrymandering is in the DCC where the difference of a few streets could change the entire makeup of a school. Move the lines in any direction for Churchill or Whitman and you just pick up different million dollar homes. BCC and Walter Johnson were messed with already but it was to pick up parts of Kensington and Silver to boost their Mix not to avoid it.

I guess you've never looked at the boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Blair envy is very strong with that group.

there is no such things as Blair envy from the group you think has envy. If they wanted to send their kids to Blair they could have traded the cheapest starter home zoned for BCC and bought one of the nicest homes in the entire Blair zone. There is no exclusivity to the cheapest area in close in Montgomery County and one of the things that drags blair down is the copious amounts of low income housing zoned for it. People take less home not to go to Blair, the vast majority of people zoned for Blair can't afford nicer areas of the county or were willing to compromise their children's school for a nicer house.

The people with Blair envy are fellow DCC residents with worse options. To be honest most people not in a consortium paid 7 figures specifically not to go to school like Blair. Maybe we have different definitions of envy

Not really You're just misinformed. There are many tigers whose cubs didn't make the cut and suffer from this Blair envy. They typically live in Western Montgomery county in areas like Potomac. They love to complain about changes to the selection process or where the magnet is geographically located. The term sour grapes comes to mind.

Don't the sour grapes make wine?

Love it! Notice how the magnet parents say "Blair" and not "Blair SMACS"?

I don't disagree that Blair SMACs has smart kids, right now. The irony is that the Blair magnet cherry-picked most of the "W" kids to obtain the competition results in the first place. ES and MS magnets are both lottery now. Hopefully the board will be half swapped out this September and the Magnet will return to a competitive admissions process again? My guess is that once the effect of the lottery starts feeding into HS admission decisions (starting with the freshman class of 2023), whatever "Blair envy" remains will evaporate pretty quickly?

SMACS is an island and world unto itself. There's no law that states it has to remain at Blair. It could always be relocated to help alleviate the overcrowding and reduce program costs? Pride comes before the fall.

Oh no that is incorrect. It isn't an island at all. These kids take over 50% of their classes with the regular school population. These programs are fully integrated into the school.

The other thing the poster fails to grasp is the vast majority of kids in SMCS are from the DCC. This is also true of TPMS. There are a few W kids but things would be the same without them.

That isn’t true, the magnets were so dominated by the W’s that they had to create a 25 seat set aside at Takoma for local kids because some years had so few that local parents were furious. It is true that most of the magnet kids come from Takoma but most of the Takoma kids come from outside the boundary save for the handout 25 slots

It's true. Whitman and Churchill don't send to many kids to the SMCS. Wootton send the most among the W schools and it's around 15 kids. There were threads here from W schools parents complaining of discrimination against the W schools.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Blair envy is very strong with that group.

there is no such things as Blair envy from the group you think has envy. If they wanted to send their kids to Blair they could have traded the cheapest starter home zoned for BCC and bought one of the nicest homes in the entire Blair zone. There is no exclusivity to the cheapest area in close in Montgomery County and one of the things that drags blair down is the copious amounts of low income housing zoned for it. People take less home not to go to Blair, the vast majority of people zoned for Blair can't afford nicer areas of the county or were willing to compromise their children's school for a nicer house.

The people with Blair envy are fellow DCC residents with worse options. To be honest most people not in a consortium paid 7 figures specifically not to go to school like Blair. Maybe we have different definitions of envy

Not really You're just misinformed. There are many tigers whose cubs didn't make the cut and suffer from this Blair envy. They typically live in Western Montgomery county in areas like Potomac. They love to complain about changes to the selection process or where the magnet is geographically located. The term sour grapes comes to mind.

Don't the sour grapes make wine?

Love it! Notice how the magnet parents say "Blair" and not "Blair SMACS"?

I don't disagree that Blair SMACs has smart kids, right now. The irony is that the Blair magnet cherry-picked most of the "W" kids to obtain the competition results in the first place. ES and MS magnets are both lottery now. Hopefully the board will be half swapped out this September and the Magnet will return to a competitive admissions process again? My guess is that once the effect of the lottery starts feeding into HS admission decisions (starting with the freshman class of 2023), whatever "Blair envy" remains will evaporate pretty quickly?

SMACS is an island and world unto itself. There's no law that states it has to remain at Blair. It could always be relocated to help alleviate the overcrowding and reduce program costs? Pride comes before the fall.

Oh no that is incorrect. It isn't an island at all. These kids take over 50% of their classes with the regular school population. These programs are fully integrated into the school.

The other thing the poster fails to grasp is the vast majority of kids in SMCS are from the DCC. This is also true of TPMS. There are a few W kids but things would be the same without them.

That isn’t true, the magnets were so dominated by the W’s that they had to create a 25 seat set aside at Takoma for local kids because some years had so few that local parents were furious. It is true that most of the magnet kids come from Takoma but most of the Takoma kids come from outside the boundary save for the handout 25 slots

It's true. Whitman and Churchill don't send to many kids to the SMCS. Wootton send the most among the W schools and it's around 15 kids. There were threads here from W schools parents complaining of discrimination against the W schools.

There was a post here a while back that had numbers from a student directory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every year the W schools boosters cannot wait for the USNews rankings to come out to boast about how their schools rank higher than Blair.
They know they cannot compete and beat Blair on the field...but on paper, oh yeah

Gerrymandering school boundaries to ensure less than 5% FARMS will help inflate standardized test averages when the county average is closer to 40%. This doesn't really mean much but it's the premise these silly rankings are based upon. It's unfortunate the rankings don't better reflect how well a school does with its students rather than the affluence or lack thereof of its constituents.

Most of the W’s aren’t gerrymandered, there are simply a minimum of unwashed masses near by. The real gerrymandering is in the DCC where the difference of a few streets could change the entire makeup of a school. Move the lines in any direction for Churchill or Whitman and you just pick up different million dollar homes. BCC and Walter Johnson were messed with already but it was to pick up parts of Kensington and Silver to boost their Mix not to avoid it.

I guess you've never looked at the boundaries.

Take Whitman the nicest school in MoCo, draw the boundaries in any direction up to a mile from the existing, hell just double the current zone area in all directions. It still doesn’t touch rockville, Gaithersburg, Wheaton or Silver Spring.

It has the nicest parts of DC to the south, the river to the west (with the nicest parts of NoVa there), Potomac to the north and Chevy Chases/Somerset to the east. You expand it all you do is cannibalize some of if not the nicest parts of the BCC’s and Churchills clusters. It will never have measurable FARMs