UVA out Friday night

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This year was carnage. I also think that no matter what they say, UVA goes for high stats kids every time over kids with lower GPAs from more rigorous schools. From a USNews rankings perspective, they have zero incentive to distinguish between the kid who got a great GPA due to pandemic grade inflation and the kid who earned the same GPA at a more rigorous school: USNews doesn't ask for squishy measures of rigor, just for the raw numbers.

Oh- and girls have a disadvantage across the board, b/c when it comes to college admission everywhere except tech schools, we are now in the universe of affirmative action for men.

Explain 17:19 then. Perfect everything… but not first generation or URM. That kid should have gotten in

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1590/4.4. Already waitlisted at VT.

ugh that is CRAZY

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once tonight’s results get posted, many of you will become rage monsters against UVA. I’ve followed these college threads for several years and nothing seems quite as triggering as a rejection from UVA, especially for well-qualified students. Good luck!

If tonight is a rejection (and based on the percentage of EA deferred kids who get in, that is by far the most likely outcome at this point), I am going to be annoyed [insert stronger language here]. Kid goes to a large Arlington HS, has a 3.96 GPA/4.53 wGPA, a 35 ACT, is a full IB-diploma candidate, has taken 5 AP classes plus a Dual-Enrollment class, is an Eagle Scout, a varsity athlete, and a super strong club sport athlete as well. Other than applying ED, not sure what else he could have done. Based on the Naviance scatterplots, it should not be a close call (nothing but green below and to the left of his spot), but I suppose we'll see in a few hours.

This is my kid. Waitlisted. Honestly kind of stunned.

Oh I’m so sorry. This is nuts. He sounds like an amazing kid. I hope he isn’t taking it too badly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1590/4.4. Already waitlisted at VT.

Highest math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1590/4.4. Already waitlisted at VT.

Highest math?

Yes. But Asian male.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once tonight’s results get posted, many of you will become rage monsters against UVA. I’ve followed these college threads for several years and nothing seems quite as triggering as a rejection from UVA, especially for well-qualified students. Good luck!

If tonight is a rejection (and based on the percentage of EA deferred kids who get in, that is by far the most likely outcome at this point), I am going to be annoyed [insert stronger language here]. Kid goes to a large Arlington HS, has a 3.96 GPA/4.53 wGPA, a 35 ACT, is a full IB-diploma candidate, has taken 5 AP classes plus a Dual-Enrollment class, is an Eagle Scout, a varsity athlete, and a super strong club sport athlete as well. Other than applying ED, not sure what else he could have done. Based on the Naviance scatterplots, it should not be a close call (nothing but green below and to the left of his spot), but I suppose we'll see in a few hours.

This is my kid. Waitlisted. Honestly kind of stunned.

As you should be. That is honestly crazy to me. I would absolutely be a rage monster. So sorry for your kid - I hope that he gets off the waitlist if UVA is still where he want to be.

I am really sorry for your kid. Deserved better with that amazing resume. Completely their loss. Good luck where he ends up. I hope he applied to Ivy and gets in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Best of luck to the applicants. Show grace. It’s hard to overstate how much this emotionally affects a lot of nova families.

It’s not just emotionally -it’s a huge financial problem for some Virginia families -that’s why so many families who have high stats kids get upset when their kids are passed over by TJ for social engineering goals of more first-generations. Many of these kids’ families (TJ) included really need access the the top Virginia schools. Many also are saving for other children and for grad schools do a thumbs down at top VA schools can be a huge financial problem problem.

Passed over? You're kid isn't entitled to a spot at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted after being deferred EA. 4.2, TO

Mine was flat out rejected, 4.3, TO, double legacy, with a job and a paid IT internship, varsity athlete. He wa happy for the rejection so there was no additional hoping. Deferral to rejection is a ride.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted after being deferred EA. 4.2, TO

Mine was flat out rejected, 4.3, TO, double legacy, with a job and a paid IT internship, varsity athlete. He wa happy for the rejection so there was no additional hoping. Deferral to rejection is a ride.

I meant rejected EA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best of luck to the applicants. Show grace. It’s hard to overstate how much this emotionally affects a lot of nova families.

It’s not just emotionally -it’s a huge financial problem for some Virginia families -that’s why so many families who have high stats kids get upset when their kids are passed over by TJ for social engineering goals of more first-generations. Many of these kids’ families (TJ) included really need access the the top Virginia schools. Many also are saving for other children and for grad schools do a thumbs down at top VA schools can be a huge financial problem problem.

Passed over? Your kid isn't entitled to a spot at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Again-- UVA could fill its class several times over with kids with near-perfect stats. They just can't take them all. And they are trying to balance kids in the different undergraduate schools and majors, too.

I know it is cold comfort, but try to remind your kid and yourself that it is NOT a sign of personal failure. It ends up being pretty arbitrary. Admissions officers are not superhuman. They get tired and burnt out and one 4.4 GPA/1590 SAT kid gets in and another does not.

Why? Maybe they already admitted two similar kids from the same high school and your DC's file was unfortunately read last. Maybe they already admitted too many boys, or girls. Maybe they have too may people who want to major in physics. Etc.

Basically, they could eliminate the bottom third of the applicant pool on stats alone and fill the rest of the class by lottery, because every other applicant is qualified, and no one would every be able to see any quality difference.

[Anonymous]

If it’s any solace, I know two kids who were rejected in 2020 that transferred in successfully in 2021. If it is meant to be, it can still happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1590/4.4. Already waitlisted at VT.

Highest math?

Yes. But Asian male.

Which math class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again-- UVA could fill its class several times over with kids with near-perfect stats. They just can't take them all. And they are trying to balance kids in the different undergraduate schools and majors, too.

I know it is cold comfort, but try to remind your kid and yourself that it is NOT a sign of personal failure. It ends up being pretty arbitrary. Admissions officers are not superhuman. They get tired and burnt out and one 4.4 GPA/1590 SAT kid gets in and another does not.

Why? Maybe they already admitted two similar kids from the same high school and your DC's file was unfortunately read last. Maybe they already admitted too many boys, or girls. Maybe they have too may people who want to major in physics. Etc.

Basically, they could eliminate the bottom third of the applicant pool on stats alone and fill the rest of the class by lottery, because every other applicant is qualified, and no one would every be able to see any quality difference.

Or maybe they discriminate against Asians and kids from NOVA even though we are the population and funding center of the state.

[Anonymous]

For kids who were waitlisted: if UVa remains top choice, but they don't get in off the waitlist this spring/summer, don't forget this option:

"We are offering Virginians who were placed on the wait list for the College of Arts and Sciences the opportunity to enroll at the UVA College at Wise located in Southwest Virginia for one year before automatically enrolling at UVA in Charlottesville. Students in this program must complete 30 hours of transferrable credit post high school graduation at UVA-Wise with a 3.0 cumulative GPA or better to transfer into the College of Arts and Sciences at UVA. You may accept this option and continue to remain on the wait list for first year admission to UVA. Read more about this option on the UVA College at Wise website."

https://www.uvawise.edu/admissions/uva-deferred-admission-agreement