Frat sweetheart

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but nothing, absolutely nothing about this whole sweetheart thing sounds healthy or appealing. Hope my kid takes a hard pass on this.

Just one question: For the female perspective this is supposed to give, older sisters (vs little sisters) are not an option, eh?

Okay, good luck raising your obnoxious "girl boss" who everyone finds insufferable and becomes some work from home office nobody. While the "sweetheart" plays a more traditional feminine role, maybe studies education or nursing, and at the same time bags a rich boy who's heading to law or medical school.

We all hope for different goals for our children. This just does not sound in any shape or form like something I hope for mine. Just my view/take on what has been described here so far.
If you and your DD like it (like many others going by the previous posts) then more power to you. Just not our cup of tea.

What was wrong with what PP hoped for her daughter? Teacher or nursing are phenomenal careers, with skies the limit levels of advancement. And locking up a charming and driven MD or lawyer (especially a second or third generation lawyer) is the stuff most parents hope for.

What, are you raising your daughter to be some "I don't need a man" pushy "business woman" who will be perpetually single and freezing her eggs at 35? Calling you in her mid 30s complaining how no men measure up to her standards and she can't meet a man who makes as much as her. Which would be cue for you to acknowledge your terrible advice in telling her to focus on being a girl boss over a feminine gal who placed herself in high-status dating pools back in college.

Someone sounds cranky and bitter. And perhaps jealous? Has it occurred to at all the PPP's kid might become "a charming and driven MD or lawyer" herself? Why pigeon hole her unless you are angry that your choices were limited (or are some perverted dude in disguise)? Whatever the reason, you have no power here. Be gone! Before somebody drops a house on you too!

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Anonymous wrote:I can share my experience. When I was a junior, I met someone over the summer at the beach and we fell in love. I was at a highly respected NE school and he was at a large southern university - not the deep south.

We dated for nearly 4 years and were very serious. We visited each other many times at our respective schools. I stayed with him in the frat house numerous times, went to football games and big traditional frat dances, parties and events. I noticed there were girls hanging at the frat all the time and I got to know them. I also noticed some girls showed up at each event to party and partied hard. My BF explained to me how some things worked and some "secret" things about the frat.

He said there were 3 types of girls associated with the frat. The highest in the hierarchy and the most respected and protected were the girlfriends. Then came the little sisters. They were like friends of the brothers, real friends, but sometimes dated them and were around all the time. They were fun. The guys were protective of them to a point. Last were the coke whores. Yes, they were referred to this way. People in this thread alluding to "other names for them" might be referring to this type of description, I don't know. They were around for the parties and did drugs, got drunk and hooked up with the brothers.

I was told not to say "frat" but to say the whole word. The brothers were all from wealthy families and drove nice trucks and SUVs, families had beach houses, ski vacations, etc, including my old BF. My BF also showed me a hole between 2 rooms where brothers would watch each other having sex with girls. I was pretty horrified by all this, we eventually broke up obviously for all kinds of reasons (thank God, looking back). Just my experience.

This is so, so, so disgusting.

This is no less true about the granola “shared house” I lived in Tacoma park. Exactly the same stratified kind of relationships for the people who lived and circulated through there over the three years I lived there. Exactly.

What?

Ditto.
What is a granola shared house?

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Can sorority girls not become doctors and lawyers if they desire? Either way, highly unlikely your daughter or anyone’s daughter becomes a doctor. And going to law school is a waste of time and money for most — come out mid 20s uglier and very poor from debt, without the grades or credential to get a firm offer to help pay it back. What man wants to marry a battleaxe ball buster with -320k in debt and can only get a 70k job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can share my experience. When I was a junior, I met someone over the summer at the beach and we fell in love. I was at a highly respected NE school and he was at a large southern university - not the deep south.

We dated for nearly 4 years and were very serious. We visited each other many times at our respective schools. I stayed with him in the frat house numerous times, went to football games and big traditional frat dances, parties and events. I noticed there were girls hanging at the frat all the time and I got to know them. I also noticed some girls showed up at each event to party and partied hard. My BF explained to me how some things worked and some "secret" things about the frat.

He said there were 3 types of girls associated with the frat. The highest in the hierarchy and the most respected and protected were the girlfriends. Then came the little sisters. They were like friends of the brothers, real friends, but sometimes dated them and were around all the time. They were fun. The guys were protective of them to a point. Last were the coke whores. Yes, they were referred to this way. People in this thread alluding to "other names for them" might be referring to this type of description, I don't know. They were around for the parties and did drugs, got drunk and hooked up with the brothers.

I was told not to say "frat" but to say the whole word. The brothers were all from wealthy families and drove nice trucks and SUVs, families had beach houses, ski vacations, etc, including my old BF. My BF also showed me a hole between 2 rooms where brothers would watch each other having sex with girls. I was pretty horrified by all this, we eventually broke up obviously for all kinds of reasons (thank God, looking back). Just my experience.

This is so, so, so disgusting.

This is no less true about the granola “shared house” I lived in Tacoma park. Exactly the same stratified kind of relationships for the people who lived and circulated through there over the three years I lived there. Exactly.

What?

Ditto.
What is a granola shared house?

Well, the "granola" poster doesn't know as it was clearly made up. They spelled Takoma (where the alleged to have lived) wrong!

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Anonymous wrote:Can sorority girls not become doctors and lawyers if they desire? Either way, highly unlikely your daughter or anyone’s daughter becomes a doctor. And going to law school is a waste of time and money for most — come out mid 20s uglier and very poor from debt, without the grades or credential to get a firm offer to help pay it back. What man wants to marry a battleaxe ball buster with -320k in debt and can only get a 70k job.

What a bunch of technicolor twaddle! So, the girls should want to be with a man lawyer but not be one herself because she will be poor? So bizarre. As is your obsession with netting a man! Zoiks.

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Anonymous wrote:Can sorority girls not become doctors and lawyers if they desire? Either way, highly unlikely your daughter or anyone’s daughter becomes a doctor. And going to law school is a waste of time and money for most — come out mid 20s uglier and very poor from debt, without the grades or credential to get a firm offer to help pay it back. What man wants to marry a battleaxe ball buster with -320k in debt and can only get a 70k job.

This post is so bizarre......

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Anonymous wrote:Can sorority girls not become doctors and lawyers if they desire? Either way, highly unlikely your daughter or anyone’s daughter becomes a doctor. And going to law school is a waste of time and money for most — come out mid 20s uglier and very poor from debt, without the grades or credential to get a firm offer to help pay it back. What man wants to marry a battleaxe ball buster with -320k in debt and can only get a 70k job.

What a bunch of technicolor twaddle! So, the girls should want to be with a man lawyer but not be one herself because she will be poor? So bizarre. As is your obsession with netting a man! Zoiks.

Who are the two richest women in America, how did they get their wealth? Divorcing rich men.

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Y’all sound ridiculous. Sorority girls do just as well if not better professionally than female college peers who were not in Greek life — if they seek those professional accolades. But there’s ALSO certain group pressure put on them to embrace femininity and traditions, they’re taught how to behave socially and date seriously, and value and orbit young men with their crap together. This all leads them to placing high value and priority on finding a spouse while they’re still young and pretty i.e. more desirable to the opposite sex. Nearly every sorority girl at selective colleges ends up married no later than mid to late 20s. Why?

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Bingo.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all sound ridiculous. Sorority girls do just as well if not better professionally than female college peers who were not in Greek life — if they seek those professional accolades. But there’s ALSO certain group pressure put on them to embrace femininity and traditions, they’re taught how to behave socially and date seriously, and value and orbit young men with their crap together. This all leads them to placing high value and priority on finding a spouse while they’re still young and pretty i.e. more desirable to the opposite sex. Nearly every sorority girl at selective colleges ends up married no later than mid to late 20s. Why?

LOL. This narrative is hilarious. Is this what you keep trying to tell and sell to your husband? He doesn't buy your BS either.

Man don't want some ditzy sorority chick, and more than they want a frat girl (putting it very, very nicely).

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Bingo.

How sad for both of them. This isn't the 1950's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can sorority girls not become doctors and lawyers if they desire? Either way, highly unlikely your daughter or anyone’s daughter becomes a doctor. And going to law school is a waste of time and money for most — come out mid 20s uglier and very poor from debt, without the grades or credential to get a firm offer to help pay it back. What man wants to marry a battleaxe ball buster with -320k in debt and can only get a 70k job.

This post is so bizarre......

+1

This narrative is so bizarre - to think that grown adults actually act this way or believe this crap. Well, may one does....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can sorority girls not become doctors and lawyers if they desire? Either way, highly unlikely your daughter or anyone’s daughter becomes a doctor. And going to law school is a waste of time and money for most — come out mid 20s uglier and very poor from debt, without the grades or credential to get a firm offer to help pay it back. What man wants to marry a battleaxe ball buster with -320k in debt and can only get a 70k job.

This post is so bizarre......

+1

This narrative is so bizarre - to think that grown adults actually act this way or believe this crap. Well, may one does....

*maybe

[Anonymous]

The sweeping generalizations on this thread are bizarre, at best, and mind-numbingly stupid, at worst. I was a sorority member (not a "sweetheart", but I knew those that were and none are what any of you describe here). I'm a lawyer with her loans paid off and a successful career. There are many like me. And most do not fit any special mold, certainly not the ones you all are identifying here.

So sad you feel the need to tear people down or put them in these little boxes. Only sad, small people do this.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all sound ridiculous. Sorority girls do just as well if not better professionally than female college peers who were not in Greek life — if they seek those professional accolades. But there’s ALSO certain group pressure put on them to embrace femininity and traditions, they’re taught how to behave socially and date seriously, and value and orbit young men with their crap together. This all leads them to placing high value and priority on finding a spouse while they’re still young and pretty i.e. more desirable to the opposite sex. Nearly every sorority girl at selective colleges ends up married no later than mid to late 20s. Why?

LOL. This narrative is hilarious. Is this what you keep trying to tell and sell to your husband? He doesn't buy your BS either.

Man don't want some ditzy sorority chick, and more than they want a frat girl (putting it very, very nicely).

You don't know many quality men, apparently.