Youngkin to launch tip line for parents to complain about teachers

[Anonymous]

Youngkin is a disaster - I thought he would be, but didn't think it would be so immediate.

If we want to support teachers, let's pay them like real professionals and treat them like real professionals. Anonymous "tiplines" are political theatre, they are not intended to and won't do anything helpful in terms of changing what is happening in schools. Instead they support the notion that people don't know what is going on in schools and should be suspicious of what is happening in schools.

Who doesn't know what is going on in your kids schools? There is SO much information available about everything in the schools these days, particularly with the switch to so much ipad content. I am amazed and grateful at all the content that my kids' teachers are covering with them.

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Anonymous wrote:Good God, this is what authoritarian regimes do! I suggest we send complimentary emails about our kids’ teachers.

This is always a good idea. The schools only hear complaints 90 percent of the time. Positive feedback is great learning tool for students and it it is pretty good for everyone else as well.

Let’s go! Tip line email:
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There are now form complaints to rat out schools reciting the pledge of allegiance and forcing those that don't believe to conform or feel excluded.

I don't support Trump, Youngking, the republicans, or any of this nonsense. HOWEVER, a very small part of this backlash from the conservatives can likely stem from this precise feeling that they have been excluded, that their beliefs have been excluded. We practice "inclusion by exclusion" - forbidding any religious symbols or talk of Jesus at "holiday" time; "winter break" and "happy holidays." Recognizing other holiday traditions and calling them by name, but prohibiting "Christmas" or talking of "God." It's fine for any secular non-Christian to celebrate Christmas; but a practicing Christian can't wish someone a "Merry Christmas." The Christian has to be cognizant of "Happy Hanukah" and Kwanza and Diwali and Ramadan, and whatever; but is anyone obligated to remember and acknowledge Christmas or other Christian holy days?

If we're going to be inclusive, we can't do it by exclusion.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
Literally none of this happens.

Yes, it does. It's "offensive" or "insensitive" to wish someone a merry christmas who is Jewish or Muslim or agnostic. The Christian well-wisher has to somehow know what the other person's beliefs are or just say "happy holidays." There are no "Christmas" songs or Christmas pageants in schools anymore. But there are various acknowledgments and celebrations of other cultural holidays and traditions, and secularization and commercialization of Christmas with lots of "Santa" stuff is perfectly fine.

Maybe the point is just to not assume everyone else is celebrating what you celebrate. When the majority assumes everyone else is like them it creates an environment which otherizes anyone else. If you don't know someone well enough to know whether they're celebrating a religious holiday, why would you wish them Happy Three Kings Day, or Orthodox Easter, or Ash Wednesday? I similarly wouldn't walk around wishing every woman Happy Mother's Day, and every man Happy Father's Day. What if that person had just had a miscarriage, or a failed IVF?

Or can't have children. This happens ALL THE TIME.
And I agree with your point about assuming; but the natural instinct is to wish good wishes toward others as part of your own expression of celebration. So the point is, a person is expected to be mindful of the other's position and refrain from wishing them a merry Christmas- but at the same time, not be offended if someone else wishes me a happy hannukah. It's a one-way tolerance/inclusion thing. That's the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmm, I don't think children should have to walk in a line anymore. I don't agree with having only lunch and snack time. What if they identify as part-Hobbit? This could be fun.

Taking turns really suppresses my child's spontaneous creativity. That should be thrown out too. Spelling, whose to say what the "right" way to spell is. Spelling changes over time. My child is just more evolved. Punctuation is probably subjective also. I don't really know how to use a comma, but it hasn't held me back. Math, there are so many ways to solve math problems. Stop labeling answers "correct" and "incorrect." My child is brilliant and just didn't want to answer the problem the teacher gave.

[Anonymous]

Dear Mr. Governor,

Ms Smith gave Larlo a 3. Clearly she is biased against him. Please have the state investigate immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:Good God, this is what authoritarian regimes do! I suggest we send complimentary emails about our kids’ teachers.

This is always a good idea. The schools only hear complaints 90 percent of the time. Positive feedback is great learning tool for students and it it is pretty good for everyone else as well.

Let’s go! Tip line email:
[e-mail]

There are now form complaints to rat out schools reciting the pledge of allegiance and forcing those that don't believe to conform or feel excluded.

I don't support Trump, Youngking, the republicans, or any of this nonsense. HOWEVER, a very small part of this backlash from the conservatives can likely stem from this precise feeling that they have been excluded, that their beliefs have been excluded. We practice "inclusion by exclusion" - forbidding any religious symbols or talk of Jesus at "holiday" time; "winter break" and "happy holidays." Recognizing other holiday traditions and calling them by name, but prohibiting "Christmas" or talking of "God." It's fine for any secular non-Christian to celebrate Christmas; but a practicing Christian can't wish someone a "Merry Christmas." The Christian has to be cognizant of "Happy Hanukah" and Kwanza and Diwali and Ramadan, and whatever; but is anyone obligated to remember and acknowledge Christmas or other Christian holy days?

If we're going to be inclusive, we can't do it by exclusion.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
Literally none of this happens.

Yes, it does. It's "offensive" or "insensitive" to wish someone a merry christmas who is Jewish or Muslim or agnostic. The Christian well-wisher has to somehow know what the other person's beliefs are or just say "happy holidays." There are no "Christmas" songs or Christmas pageants in schools anymore. But there are various acknowledgments and celebrations of other cultural holidays and traditions, and secularization and commercialization of Christmas with lots of "Santa" stuff is perfectly fine.

Maybe the point is just to not assume everyone else is celebrating what you celebrate. When the majority assumes everyone else is like them it creates an environment which otherizes anyone else. If you don't know someone well enough to know whether they're celebrating a religious holiday, why would you wish them Happy Three Kings Day, or Orthodox Easter, or Ash Wednesday? I similarly wouldn't walk around wishing every woman Happy Mother's Day, and every man Happy Father's Day. What if that person had just had a miscarriage, or a failed IVF?

Or can't have children. This happens ALL THE TIME.
And I agree with your point about assuming; but the natural instinct is to wish good wishes toward others as part of your own expression of celebration. So the point is, a person is expected to be mindful of the other's position and refrain from wishing them a merry Christmas- but at the same time, not be offended if someone else wishes me a happy hannukah. It's a one-way tolerance/inclusion thing. That's the problem.

So wish the good wishes. Nobody is saying you shouldn't. The idea is to do it in an inclusive way.

Those who have no or very little experience as a minority do have more responsibility in this, IMO. Isn't that one thing we learned from discriminatory practices? that minorities do in fact internalize a lot more than majorities ever intended?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the conservative endgame here? I assume you want to preserve your home values so how does that square with making teachers so miserable they don’t want to be in your state?

The playbook:

Make schools fail.
Bring in the charters and vouchers.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the conservative endgame here? I assume you want to preserve your home values so how does that square with making teachers so miserable they don’t want to be in your state?

The playbook:

Make schools fail.
Bring in the charters and vouchers.

Right but it still doesn’t work well for property values.

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Anonymous wrote:whats the phone number?

Not sure yet if there’s a phone number but there is an email address.

[e-mail]

Just have a shout out to my kid’s awesome teachers!

I like this!
Where is the “Report the Good” tip line? Surely the Governor wants to hear positive stories too, right?

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Anonymous wrote:What is the conservative endgame here? I assume you want to preserve your home values so how does that square with making teachers so miserable they don’t want to be in your state?

The playbook:

Make schools fail.
Bring in the charters and vouchers.

Right but it still doesn’t work well for property values.

And you still have a situation where teachers won't want to teach in Virginia.

[Anonymous]

I’m thinking about reporting the Governor himself. In my view he’s being quite divisive.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What is the conservative endgame here? I assume you want to preserve your home values so how does that square with making teachers so miserable they don’t want to be in your state?

The playbook:

Make schools fail.
Bring in the charters and vouchers.

Right but it still doesn’t work well for property values.

I don’t think they care. They get their private school subsidies, their buddies in business make a profit from schools and to he// with the rest.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the conservative endgame here? I assume you want to preserve your home values so how does that square with making teachers so miserable they don’t want to be in your state?

The playbook:

Make schools fail.
Bring in the charters and vouchers.

Right but it still doesn’t work well for property values.

And you still have a situation where teachers won't want to teach in Virginia.

Yup. I’m looking to switch from FCPS to Maryland next year because this sh*t is disturbing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the conservative endgame here? I assume you want to preserve your home values so how does that square with making teachers so miserable they don’t want to be in your state?

The playbook:

Make schools fail.
Bring in the charters and vouchers.

+1000 (I opened the thread to post exactly this!)

Even bigger picture - widen the gap between the haves and have nots. The wealthy will buy good education for their children, while taking money from the government and away from poorer people.

[Anonymous]

It’s so interesting to at Youngkin ran on raising teacher salaries and improving teacher work conditions but then one of his first acts as governor is to set up a tip line for people to report teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the conservative endgame here? I assume you want to preserve your home values so how does that square with making teachers so miserable they don’t want to be in your state?

The playbook:

Make schools fail.
Bring in the charters and vouchers.

Right but it still doesn’t work well for property values.

Why do you think these kind of conservatives want to preserve property values?

They're vulture capitalists. They love fire sales. They hate property taxes. They would be delighted to see your burb enclave become rental properties. Poor people are extremely lucrative. There are lots of them. They have no agency. They are easily controlled.

Stop thinking this is free market capitalism--it is not. This is serfdom. That's the goal.