Virginia Republican introduces bill to ban abortions at 20 weeks

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Anonymous wrote:I used to believe that all late term abortions were because of severely deformed fetuses. I agree that’s most often the case. But check out this NPR article, telling of a 22 yo who aborted a healthy baby at 27 weeks (& not because of risk to her own life/health either):

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/30/718546468/opponents-fight-efforts-to-protect-late-term-abortion-rights

Anecdotes are not data

In this case they are.

There’s actual data on this. She didn’t find out she was pregnant til 26 weeks and you’re glossing right over the woman in the same article who had a late abortion for a horrific fetal anomaly. Did you happen to see how much the late abortion cost? Over 10K. And you’re thinking that women are doing this for reasons of convenience? Sorry, no. But your contempt for women is evident; it’s a key trait among forced birthers (even the ones who are women).

I posted the link above, but not the reply. As I said, it's most often the case that abortions occurring past viability are for severe fetal anomalies. I feel terrible for these families. But I, like many others I'm sure, had been lead to believe this was ALWYAYS the case, as in it wasn't legal or allowed for convenience, yet this is exactly why the women in the article aborted at 27 weeks. How is this allowed for a healthy baby that would have almost surely survived had it been born instead of aborted/killed? I seriously doubt that NPR found the one and only woman who aborted in the third trimester (or late second trimester) for convenience. This happens more than people think. And no, I don't have contempt for women, but there do need to be SOME limits on abortion. People in your camp are incapable of rational conversation without calling someone a misogynist, racist, or something phobic. Guess what? People can disagree with you without being evil or hateful, but if you write them all off as such, you can feel self-righteous without ever needing to consider an alternate point of view.

"This happens more than people think."

Give us real numbers then. Can you find more than one case?

As a PP stated, only 1% of abortions happen in the third trimester, which starts somewhere around 27/28 weeks.

What in the world are you arguing that "there should be some limits on abortions" for? Guess what? There ARE some limits on abortions. Plenty of them. And one of them is that it is exceptionally difficult to find any doctor anywhere who is going to abort a healthy baby after 26/27 weeks. List the clinics across the country that will do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to believe that all late term abortions were because of severely deformed fetuses. I agree that’s most often the case. But check out this NPR article, telling of a 22 yo who aborted a healthy baby at 27 weeks (& not because of risk to her own life/health either):

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/30/718546468/opponents-fight-efforts-to-protect-late-term-abortion-rights

Anecdotes are not data

In this case they are.

There’s actual data on this. She didn’t find out she was pregnant til 26 weeks and you’re glossing right over the woman in the same article who had a late abortion for a horrific fetal anomaly. Did you happen to see how much the late abortion cost? Over 10K. And you’re thinking that women are doing this for reasons of convenience? Sorry, no. But your contempt for women is evident; it’s a key trait among forced birthers (even the ones who are women).

I posted the link above, but not the reply. As I said, it's most often the case that abortions occurring past viability are for severe fetal anomalies. I feel terrible for these families. But I, like many others I'm sure, had been lead to believe this was ALWYAYS the case, as in it wasn't legal or allowed for convenience, yet this is exactly why the women in the article aborted at 27 weeks. How is this allowed for a healthy baby that would have almost surely survived had it been born instead of aborted/killed? I seriously doubt that NPR found the one and only woman who aborted in the third trimester (or late second trimester) for convenience. This happens more than people think. And no, I don't have contempt for women, but there do need to be SOME limits on abortion. People in your camp are incapable of rational conversation without calling someone a misogynist, racist, or something phobic. Guess what? People can disagree with you without being evil or hateful, but if you write them all off as such, you can feel self-righteous without ever needing to consider an alternate point of view.

"This happens more than people think."

Give us real numbers then. Can you find more than one case?

As a PP stated, only 1% of abortions happen in the third trimester, which starts somewhere around 27/28 weeks.

What in the world are you arguing that "there should be some limits on abortions" for? Guess what? There ARE some limits on abortions. Plenty of them. And one of them is that it is exceptionally difficult to find any doctor anywhere who is going to abort a healthy baby after 26/27 weeks. List the clinics across the country that will do that.

Agree.

It is sociopathy to read 1) how few abortions there are in the third trimester 2) see that they’re overwhelmingly for catastrophic health reasons and then conclude that we need more limits. I will not apologize. And that’s ignoring the fact that what the GOP is doing is trying to make abortions after 20 weeks illegal. A woman does not owe Republicans or disability advocates the use of her body to deliver to term a pregnancy that they have decided they cannot raise. As someone said above, there are hundreds if not thousands of different diagnoses. The internet is out there and people actually can use it to access research about what their child’s life span and quality would be like.

The GOP is trying to make sure that women have as few choices as possible. It is disgusting and it is indefensible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And it begins.. Who is surprised?

https://newsvirginian.com/news/virginia_politics/virginia-republican-introduces-bill-to-ban-abortions-at-20-weeks/article_e2bfcee4-7a31-50a1-8144-27c81508d471.html

Virginia state Senate is democrat. It won't pass.