Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act has passed!

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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

+1000.

It's good to see there are at least some Republicans who still care about the advancement of our nation and not letting our infrastructure fall behind and crumble, as opposed to all of the other jackasses who've placed partisanship ahead of what's best for the country.

How naive are you to not know that the six knew that it would pass? Do you think they don’t count votes? You think it’s some big surprise?

Do you think they're making some monumental statement by not voting for it? They look churlish and immature.

Monumental statement? No. Did their vote - that didn’t change the outcome of the bill - say that they still want all the other things accomplished? Yes. They don’t look churlish and immature. Churlish and immature is all the Republicans who couldn’t be bothered to vote for progress in America, who don’t want safe roads and bridges, who don’t want rural people to have access to broadband. That’s churlish and immature.

If those six votes had tanked the bill, I’d agree with you. But it didn’t, and I don’t.

This makes no sense. When you're negotiating, everyone rarely gets everything they want. Should everyone have voted no to show they still want something more? So yes, they look childish.

How much negotiation took place during the Trump tax bill? How much negotiation took place for installing the three illegitimate SC justices? How much negotiation ever takes place when the Repukes are in charge?

No. They don’t look childish. Your insistence that they do is beginning to look childish though.

What makes them illegitimate? They were proposed and confirmed.

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to acknowledge that there are entire swaths of people in this country that disagree with the other side and elected representatives to vote for the exact opposite of what progressives are pushing is odd. At least when republicans obstruct legislation, they say it's what only their constituents want. It's odd to insist progressives are representing everyone when clearly half the country doesnt want progressive policy.

It’s odd the way extremists like you insist that progressive politics aren’t popular.

“Sixty-three percent of voters in the poll said they supported the $3.5 trillion overall plan that includes spending on health care, long-term care, child care, and clean-energy jobs.” https://www.vox.com/2021/10/15/22723457/build-back-better-poll-democrats-bill-infrastructure-taxes

You can see the media’s abject failure in reporting what’s in the bill though. People don’t feel like they understand what’s in it. It’s almost as if the conservative media that people call “liberal” really, really wants it to fail. https://www.newsweek.com/most-americans-dont-know-much-specifically-about-bidens-build-back-better-plan-poll-1637397

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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

+1000.

It's good to see there are at least some Republicans who still care about the advancement of our nation and not letting our infrastructure fall behind and crumble, as opposed to all of the other jackasses who've placed partisanship ahead of what's best for the country.

How naive are you to not know that the six knew that it would pass? Do you think they don’t count votes? You think it’s some big surprise?

Do you think they're making some monumental statement by not voting for it? They look churlish and immature.

Monumental statement? No. Did their vote - that didn’t change the outcome of the bill - say that they still want all the other things accomplished? Yes. They don’t look churlish and immature. Churlish and immature is all the Republicans who couldn’t be bothered to vote for progress in America, who don’t want safe roads and bridges, who don’t want rural people to have access to broadband. That’s churlish and immature.

If those six votes had tanked the bill, I’d agree with you. But it didn’t, and I don’t.

This makes no sense. When you're negotiating, everyone rarely gets everything they want. Should everyone have voted no to show they still want something more? So yes, they look childish.

How much negotiation took place during the Trump tax bill? How much negotiation took place for installing the three illegitimate SC justices? How much negotiation ever takes place when the Repukes are in charge?

No. They don’t look childish. Your insistence that they do is beginning to look childish though.

What makes them illegitimate? They were proposed and confirmed.

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Their obvious illegitimacy is for a different thread. But you say that people always have to negotiate. Where did the GOP negotiate anything from 2017-2021? Can you point out an example or two in which good faith negotiations were undertaken so that the 60%+ of the country that votes Democratic gets their views represented?

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to acknowledge that there are entire swaths of people in this country that disagree with the other side and elected representatives to vote for the exact opposite of what progressives are pushing is odd. At least when republicans obstruct legislation, they say it's what only their constituents want. It's odd to insist progressives are representing everyone when clearly half the country doesnt want progressive policy.

It’s odd the way extremists like you insist that progressive politics aren’t popular.

“Sixty-three percent of voters in the poll said they supported the $3.5 trillion overall plan that includes spending on health care, long-term care, child care, and clean-energy jobs.” https://www.vox.com/2021/10/15/22723457/build-back-better-poll-democrats-bill-infrastructure-taxes

You can see the media’s abject failure in reporting what’s in the bill though. People don’t feel like they understand what’s in it. It’s almost as if the conservative media that people call “liberal” really, really wants it to fail. https://www.newsweek.com/most-americans-dont-know-much-specifically-about-bidens-build-back-better-plan-poll-1637397

You tell people 'I'll give you a million dollars' and they'll poll support for that too. Again - doesn't make it excellent fiscal policy. Especially as you're threatening some of our greatest assets and the GDP to get it.

The progressives and Squad wrote themselves into a corner, refused to compromise - they wouldn't even put in a means test of a $2,500 annual income requirement for the child giveaway credit FFS, and now you're mad their crazy plan is dead? Learn to support people who actually write and pass bills next time.

P.S. - Threatening our billionaires, who will happily be taken in by China or Russia or hell even Germany, was never a smart move.

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to acknowledge that there are entire swaths of people in this country that disagree with the other side and elected representatives to vote for the exact opposite of what progressives are pushing is odd. At least when republicans obstruct legislation, they say it's what only their constituents want. It's odd to insist progressives are representing everyone when clearly half the country doesnt want progressive policy.

The rest them don't actually represent half of America. Representation is hugely disproportionate. Sparsely populated rural districts have an overly disproportionate say.

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Anonymous wrote:You tell people 'I'll give you a million dollars' and they'll poll support for that too. Again - doesn't make it excellent fiscal policy. Especially as you're threatening some of our greatest assets and the GDP to get it.

The progressives and Squad wrote themselves into a corner, refused to compromise - they wouldn't even put in a means test of a $2,500 annual income requirement for the child giveaway credit FFS, and now you're mad their crazy plan is dead? Learn to support people who actually write and pass bills next time.

P.S. - Threatening our billionaires, who will happily be taken in by China or Russia or hell even Germany, was never a smart move.

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First of all, no one’s giving people a million dollars.

Second of all, it’s paid for. https://www.whitehouse.gov/build-back-better/

Anonymous wrote:Combined with savings from repealing the Trump Administration’s rebate rule, the plan is fully paid for by asking more from the very largest corporations and the wealthiest Americans. The 2017 tax cut delivered a windfall to them, and this would help reverse that—and invest in the country’s future. No one making under $400,000 will pay a penny more in taxes.

Third of all, it’s all stuff to even out the ridiculous inequality between the billionaires and the rest of us. Affordable housing. Expanding the EITC. Expands access to college, community college and apprenticeships. Immigration reform.

Just how much money do the billionaires have? https://inequality.org/great-divide/updates-billionaire-pandemic/

Anonymous wrote:The $5 trillion in wealth now held by 745 billionaires is two-thirds more than the $3 trillion in wealth held by the bottom 50 percent of U.S. households estimated by the Federal Reserve Board.

How many yachts and private islands and taxpayer funded rockets do these losers need to feel good about themselves? At what point can we expect them to participate in the human world again? If they want to leave the US, good. Go. Be gone. I trust you support the Global Minimum Tax?

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Anonymous wrote:You tell people 'I'll give you a million dollars' and they'll poll support for that too. Again - doesn't make it excellent fiscal policy. Especially as you're threatening some of our greatest assets and the GDP to get it.

The progressives and Squad wrote themselves into a corner, refused to compromise - they wouldn't even put in a means test of a $2,500 annual income requirement for the child giveaway credit FFS, and now you're mad their crazy plan is dead? Learn to support people who actually write and pass bills next time.

P.S. - Threatening our billionaires, who will happily be taken in by China or Russia or hell even Germany, was never a smart move.

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First of all, no one’s giving people a million dollars.

Second of all, it’s paid for. https://www.whitehouse.gov/build-back-better/

Anonymous wrote:Combined with savings from repealing the Trump Administration’s rebate rule, the plan is fully paid for by asking more from the very largest corporations and the wealthiest Americans. The 2017 tax cut delivered a windfall to them, and this would help reverse that—and invest in the country’s future. No one making under $400,000 will pay a penny more in taxes.

Third of all, it’s all stuff to even out the ridiculous inequality between the billionaires and the rest of us. Affordable housing. Expanding the EITC. Expands access to college, community college and apprenticeships. Immigration reform.

Just how much money do the billionaires have? https://inequality.org/great-divide/updates-billionaire-pandemic/

Anonymous wrote:The $5 trillion in wealth now held by 745 billionaires is two-thirds more than the $3 trillion in wealth held by the bottom 50 percent of U.S. households estimated by the Federal Reserve Board.

How many yachts and private islands and taxpayer funded rockets do these losers need to feel good about themselves? At what point can we expect them to participate in the human world again? If they want to leave the US, good. Go. Be gone. I trust you support the Global Minimum Tax?

Oh please. Its a money dump to parents. End of story. Community college? LOL That's the first thing they cut. Immigrant reform? Again cut.

Why don't you talk about how it pays people to have kids?

3 kids is $
4-6 kids is $$
6 or more kids $$$

And no one believes its free. At all. That's why you went up again Musk with threats to tax only billionaires and he is telling you in no uncertain terms he will wreck this economy before he pays an additional dime.

Back off. We've got more important things to fight - the 5th Circuit just completely axed Biden's vaccine mandate, the supply chain is in shambles, food shortages, drop in GDP, and oh - you're already losing major elections pre-midterms. Not to mention the progressives pushed out the federal shutdown and the debt ceiling fiasco to 3 short weeks away.

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My two sugar buttons

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never seen a less intelligent, less qualified group of politicians than the squad. They’ve accomplish absolutely nothing during their tenure and seem to view their jobs as being yammering mouthpieces of the professional protester class. Disgusting losers.

Marjorie Taylor Greene comes to mind but I agree. They need to be stripped of committee assignments and ignored.

Agree about Greene but thankfully there’s only one of her!

I voted R but I think that Greene, Gaetz, and Jim Jordan are worse than the squad.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

+1000.

It's good to see there are at least some Republicans who still care about the advancement of our nation and not letting our infrastructure fall behind and crumble, as opposed to all of the other jackasses who've placed partisanship ahead of what's best for the country.

How naive are you to not know that the six knew that it would pass? Do you think they don’t count votes? You think it’s some big surprise?

Do you think they're making some monumental statement by not voting for it? They look churlish and immature.

Monumental statement? No. Did their vote - that didn’t change the outcome of the bill - say that they still want all the other things accomplished? Yes. They don’t look churlish and immature. Churlish and immature is all the Republicans who couldn’t be bothered to vote for progress in America, who don’t want safe roads and bridges, who don’t want rural people to have access to broadband. That’s churlish and immature.

If those six votes had tanked the bill, I’d agree with you. But it didn’t, and I don’t.

This makes no sense. When you're negotiating, everyone rarely gets everything they want. Should everyone have voted no to show they still want something more? So yes, they look childish.

How much negotiation took place during the Trump tax bill? How much negotiation took place for installing the three illegitimate SC justices? How much negotiation ever takes place when the Repukes are in charge?

No. They don’t look childish. Your insistence that they do is beginning to look childish though.

What makes them illegitimate? They were proposed and confirmed.

???

Their obvious illegitimacy is for a different thread. But you say that people always have to negotiate. Where did the GOP negotiate anything from 2017-2021? Can you point out an example or two in which good faith negotiations were undertaken so that the 60%+ of the country that votes Democratic gets their views represented?

Obvious illegitimacy? Can you point out why exactly they are illegitimate for those of us who can't see the obvious?

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to acknowledge that there are entire swaths of people in this country that disagree with the other side and elected representatives to vote for the exact opposite of what progressives are pushing is odd. At least when republicans obstruct legislation, they say it's what only their constituents want. It's odd to insist progressives are representing everyone when clearly half the country doesnt want progressive policy.

Really look at Manchin. He was elected by 0.18% of the people who voted. The rural areas and states have way to much say. It’s time to end this.

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to acknowledge that there are entire swaths of people in this country that disagree with the other side and elected representatives to vote for the exact opposite of what progressives are pushing is odd. At least when republicans obstruct legislation, they say it's what only their constituents want. It's odd to insist progressives are representing everyone when clearly half the country doesnt want progressive policy.

It’s odd the way extremists like you insist that progressive politics aren’t popular.

“Sixty-three percent of voters in the poll said they supported the $3.5 trillion overall plan that includes spending on health care, long-term care, child care, and clean-energy jobs.” https://www.vox.com/2021/10/15/22723457/build-back-better-poll-democrats-bill-infrastructure-taxes

You can see the media’s abject failure in reporting what’s in the bill though. People don’t feel like they understand what’s in it. It’s almost as if the conservative media that people call “liberal” really, really wants it to fail. https://www.newsweek.com/most-americans-dont-know-much-specifically-about-bidens-build-back-better-plan-poll-1637397

And yet they dont have the votes

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Thank to the adults in the room - including the Congressional Problem Solvers Caucus and the Congressional Black Caucus.

F the Squad.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank to the adults in the room - including the Congressional Problem Solvers Caucus and the Congressional Black Caucus.

F the Squad.

Too bad it’s just a give away to the red states again. Good job getting republicans elected!

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Anonymous wrote:Thank to the adults in the room - including the Congressional Problem Solvers Caucus and the Congressional Black Caucus.

F the Squad.

Too bad it’s just a give away to the red states again. Good job getting republicans elected!

Anyone on these boards and from this area but not inside the District of Columbia lives in a red state.