If all costs were equal, would you rather your child attend a top public or top private school?

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Anonymous wrote:Have the UVA boosters never heard of financial aid? Is this a foreign concept to them?

Many in the DMV don’t qualify for aid, yet $75k is still a ton of money to them. Why part with $75k/year if you can get the same for $30k? Common sense.

Yup!

Why part? Bc, first year out of college, some kids make $200,000.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have the UVA boosters never heard of financial aid? Is this a foreign concept to them?

Many in the DMV don’t qualify for aid, yet $75k is still a ton of money to them. Why part with $75k/year if you can get the same for $30k? Common sense.

Yup!

Why part? Bc, first year out of college, some kids make $200,000.

Eh, it’s not really about the money but I think the experience between a top private and a top public is meaningfully different and if money weren’t an issue why wouldn’t you want the best for your child. I’ve heard horror stories about the difficulty/impossibility of enrolling in desired classes at public universities and its well known that many majors will require five years of undergrad. And it’s worth it to note that many top firms only recruit from a small pool of top colleges and they’re not going to state U.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have the UVA boosters never heard of financial aid? Is this a foreign concept to them?

Many in the DMV don’t qualify for aid, yet $75k is still a ton of money to them. Why part with $75k/year if you can get the same for $30k? Common sense.

Yup!

Why part? Bc, first year out of college, some kids make $200,000.

What to a FANNG company, including stock? Well, overwhelmingly, that’s not the average student. Your “some” students should be revised to “a few.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have the UVA boosters never heard of financial aid? Is this a foreign concept to them?

Many in the DMV don’t qualify for aid, yet $75k is still a ton of money to them. Why part with $75k/year if you can get the same for $30k? Common sense.

Yup!

Why part? Bc, first year out of college, some kids make $200,000.

What to a FANNG company, including stock? Well, overwhelmingly, that’s not the average student. Your “some” students should be revised to “a few.”

FAANG, Goldman Sachs - not unusual from top schools you see on the Wall Street, Silicon Valley feeder school list.

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Anonymous wrote:Top private to me means Ivy League. If you can’t do Ivy League, UVA and other top public’s are the way to go.

Ivy League aren't even all the top privates so this is kind of silly. No way you'd choose UVA over Duke if price was the same.

I’d choose UVA over Duke. I actually did get into Duke and another top public and chose the public. Truly enjoyed my undergrad and had good job offers. I don’t consider Duke a top private.

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Private. I believe very strongly in the value of a SLAC, residential education.

If my kids were on an engineering/ CS track, I be looking at a whole different set of factors though, and aim not sure I’d have a preference.

[Anonymous]

So the consensus is pretty much that small-to-medium size private schools are better than public schools, almost always, unless your kid wants a big school atmosphere, and/or wants to go into engineering at a public school that ranks higher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top private to me means Ivy League. If you can’t do Ivy League, UVA and other top public’s are the way to go.

Ivy League aren't even all the top privates so this is kind of silly. No way you'd choose UVA over Duke if price was the same.

I’d choose UVA over Duke. I actually did get into Duke and another top public and chose the public. Truly enjoyed my undergrad and had good job offers. I don’t consider Duke a top private.

By your own Logic, why choose UVA when you could’ve chosen a top community college? I don’t consider UVA a top public university. You could’ve done just as well from a local community college.

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Anonymous wrote:So the consensus is pretty much that small-to-medium size private schools are better than public schools, almost always, unless your kid wants a big school atmosphere, and/or wants to go into engineering at a public school that ranks higher.

It depends on what you value in education. For me, it’s the small discussion based classes; learning to read, write and communicate; the professor interactions; the small residential community. I do think that for is very important with these schools though. You need to do a lot of legwork and put a lot of care into finding the right school, because small schools can’t do everything well, and a fine arts kid is going to get a lot less out of a school with strong athletics, and vice versa. It’s less about the name and ranking and more about the handful of excellent English professors and the thriving arts scene or whatever your kid wants.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top private to me means Ivy League. If you can’t do Ivy League, UVA and other top public’s are the way to go.

Ivy League aren't even all the top privates so this is kind of silly. No way you'd choose UVA over Duke if price was the same.

I’d choose UVA over Duke. I actually did get into Duke and another top public and chose the public. Truly enjoyed my undergrad and had good job offers. I don’t consider Duke a top private.

By your own Logic, why choose UVA when you could’ve chosen a top community college? I don’t consider UVA a top public university. You could’ve done just as well from a local community college.

I’d choose a coding boot camp over CC. I actually did get into a top CC and another top public and chose the local top coding boot camp. Truly enjoyed my coding experience and had good job offers. I don’t consider Duke a top private, nor UVA and Anne Arundel CC top publics.

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If you don’t consider UVA a top public, you’re kidding only yourself, misinformed, or uninformed. UVA might not be the right school for you, but objectively it is one of the best colleges. I don’t have a dog in the fight, but some posters on this thread seem willfully ignorant or just jealous. After all, it’s DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:WashU, Emory , Rice are better undergrad schools than every public school.

The only problem w/ WashU is people who went there seem to have come out with some really shithole values. Not sure it’s worth more than a local community college.

Doesn’t describe my family and friends who went there so you seem to be making that up.

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Anonymous wrote:99.9% of kids can’t get into HPYSM, so it doesn’t really matter where top publics rate relative to them. When you compare privates rated 10-25 to top publics, they offer no better job or graduate school placement, on average, and cost a lot more. For many smart kids, this is the practical tradeoff. If you are in-state to one if these better publics, it’s a no brainer.

By saying costs don’t matter, this just becomes another ranking thread, which is useless because everyone already knows - more or less - where schools stand. No one cares about the difference between 10-25 or 26-40. When you add cost to the equation, you’re ascertaining value. That’s what most care about.

This is stupid. Not even hypsm offers any superior job/graduate school placement in this day and age. There is no guarantee of anything. It's not a golden key to success. hypsm prestige defense squad folks are truly delusional.

Not sure why the hate. I think PP largely agrees with you that while HPYSM are better schools than some Top Publics, the opportunities out of Top Publics are very good, especially for majors like CS.

PP was saying somehow hypsm are better than top privates ranked 10-25 in grad school or job placements, which is just bull... and top public schools can't compete even with T10 privates...

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Anonymous wrote:99.9% of kids can’t get into HPYSM, so it doesn’t really matter where top publics rate relative to them. When you compare privates rated 10-25 to top publics, they offer no better job or graduate school placement, on average, and cost a lot more. For many smart kids, this is the practical tradeoff. If you are in-state to one if these better publics, it’s a no brainer.

By saying costs don’t matter, this just becomes another ranking thread, which is useless because everyone already knows - more or less - where schools stand. No one cares about the difference between 10-25 or 26-40. When you add cost to the equation, you’re ascertaining value. That’s what most care about.

This is stupid. Not even hypsm offers any superior job/graduate school placement in this day and age. There is no guarantee of anything. It's not a golden key to success. hypsm prestige defense squad folks are truly delusional.

Not sure why the hate. I think PP largely agrees with you that while HPYSM are better schools than some Top Publics, the opportunities out of Top Publics are very good, especially for majors like CS.

I think it's fair game when hypsm prestige defense squad folks trash talk every non-hypsm school on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have the UVA boosters never heard of financial aid? Is this a foreign concept to them?

Many in the DMV don’t qualify for aid, yet $75k is still a ton of money to them. Why part with $75k/year if you can get the same for $30k? Common sense.

Yup!

Why part? Bc, first year out of college, some kids make $200,000.

Eh, it’s not really about the money but I think the experience between a top private and a top public is meaningfully different and if money weren’t an issue why wouldn’t you want the best for your child. I’ve heard horror stories about the difficulty/impossibility of enrolling in desired classes at public universities and its well known that many majors will require five years of undergrad. And it’s worth it to note that many top firms only recruit from a small pool of top colleges and they’re not going to state U.

The best is the college you child will be happy at and successful. My parents forced me to a small private. I hated it. I transferred sophomore year to a large public and much preferred it. Its not about you getting bragging rights. Its about where your child is happy and thriving.