FYI, each adult has the freedom to think whatever she (or he) wants to. |
Exactly. It seems that personal responsibility is such a foreign idea to so many people today. Maybe they go into traffic behaving the same way; that if they take a wrong turn or misinterpret the traffic signs they should just be allowed to kill other drivers and be forgiven for it. |
And the freedom to make decisions about her body. |
+1 |
+1 Banning abortions will definitely teach everyone how to behave like I’d like them to behave. |
| I bet all the prolifers will convince all men to step up to the plate and not leave the women they impregnate. Rape and incest will stop. Men will pretty much stop coming on to women unless they want a baby. |
If you find taking personal responsibility to prevent pregnancy so difficult in the age of so much choice, you should get sterilized (be a a man or a woman). |
Personally, I don't find it difficult. But I have no control over anyone else. I agree we should sterilize all the rapists and future unfit parents before they reproduce. I'll just hop on my magic carpet and round them all up. |
Yo dumbass. All the personal responsibility in the world isn't going to protect an underaged child from rape, isn't going to magically correct a fatal ectopic pregnancy or fetal brain defect. Stop blaming the victims and forcing your uninformed, moronic idiocy on them. |
Pulling the rape card in front of well informed and prepared pro-life crowd makes you sound incredibly uninformed, intellectually lazy, and downright stupid. But for the millionth time here it is: we know from years of tracking abortions that less than 1% are done for rape/incest, small percentage are done for fetal/maternal health issues, and overwhelming majority (>90%) out of personal convenience. So, we have been arguing against the use of that majority out of convenience this entire time. We know that overwhelming majority of women in America with unintended pregnancies are not victims as you claim, they are willing participants in sex. Yes, we think that consenting adults have personal responsibility to prevent unintended pregnancy. But you just kind of parachuted stupidly in the midst of this discussion and think that calling someone names makes you look smart and informed. When you are too lazy to look up statistical evidence and find out what the discussion is really about you lose any credibility and sound like a moron that cannot be taken seriously. |
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It is very responsible to get an abortion rather than birth a child you are not equipt to raise.
I don't get this argument. |
Sex is like driving. There is no guarantee you will come out unaffected. That is why you take driving lessons, learn about traffic regulations, and use maximum precautions not to get into an accident and become disabled. In other words, you prepare and take personal responsibility. You also do not have to drive. It is not necessary for your survival. You could argue it is indispensable but you cannot argue that it is absolutely necessary. So, you can make other arrangements. You can absolutely prevent injury and death in traffic. |
Well aren’t you quite the Eugenicist. |
Sometimes the other driver is at fault. Accidents happen, and we fix the damage. If I get in a car accident, my insurance pays to fix the damage and it gets repaired. Or I pay. If there is a birth control failure, we fix it to get the outcome we want. This analogy is not working the way you want. |
If you are not equipped to raise a child, it is more responsible not to conceive said child. It is responsible to use birth control and contraception to control your body. In the rare instance that your birth control fails, the rare instance you are raped and conceive a child, or the rare instance you conceive a defective fetus, abortion is available. Make abortion for rare circumstances not for irresponsible people. |