MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/viral-clash-students-and-native-americans-explained/580906/?utm_content=edit-promo&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=2019-01-21T22%3A06%3A08

When even THE ATLANTIC says that you need to stop believing everything you see on the Internet...maybe reevaluate your stance.

It does NOT say the kid is exonerated. You are misrepresenting the article.

who said it does?

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I dont' know why this link was deleted but this article is good. Thank you for whoever posted it.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/making-sense-...e-phillips-sandman-viral-video

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I think the one thing EVERYONE can agree on is that the interpretation of these videos is the 2019 equivalent of the black/blue vs. white/gold dress controversy.

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Anyway, I agree with the WTF were the chaperones??? They could have intervened and shut it down at so many points.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK. I think the kid was wrong and should apologize to the man for the little staring contest.... but........

I just saw a video of this incident from another angle and from before the kid was face to face with him.
The man walked up toward the group of kids. He walked into the group. It wasn't like the kids surrounded him.

Phillips, the man, doesn't appear to be the victim he is being portrayed as. As an adult, why approach a group of kids?

Watch for yourself.
https://twitter.com/SchumeMae/status/1086804759707815943

Phillips said that he saw the kids taunting a group of black kids and was worried that things would get violent. So, he walked between the groups to keep them apart.

This is a joke. The group of black kids turned out to be a group of black jews spewing hatred vitriol.

They're not Jews.

I thought black israelites were jewish but I guess only some of them are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyway, I agree with the WTF were the chaperones??? They could have intervened and shut it down at so many points.

Watch after 2:20 in this video https://vimeo.com/312411257

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK. I think the kid was wrong and should apologize to the man for the little staring contest.... but........

I just saw a video of this incident from another angle and from before the kid was face to face with him.
The man walked up toward the group of kids. He walked into the group. It wasn't like the kids surrounded him.

Phillips, the man, doesn't appear to be the victim he is being portrayed as. As an adult, why approach a group of kids?

Watch for yourself.
https://twitter.com/SchumeMae/status/1086804759707815943

Phillips said that he saw the kids taunting a group of black kids and was worried that things would get violent. So, he walked between the groups to keep them apart.

This is a joke. The group of black kids turned out to be a group of black jews spewing hatred vitriol.

They're not Jews.

Black Hebrew Israelites - they were an older crew, according to Phillips, and they're labeled a hate group. But my question was (it was deleted) who started it? Did the boys taunt the BHI or did the BHI taunt them?

Phillips took BHI'a side.

The BHI were yelling at everyone (including the native americans at first). When the kids came wearing Make America Great stuff to the Native American march, it was too easy of a target. They yelled things like, " You want to build a wall, but you stole their land to begin with!" and stuff like that.

Watch the long video. The conflict starts at 50 min and goes to 1:12 before Phillips comes in. It is super tense because there were like 70+ big teenagers chanting and acting aggressively, and of course the 5 BHI men were not going to back down. It was very tense. If I had been there, I would have been very uncomfortable. The chaperones should have been paying attention and whoever gave permission for the kids to start chanting back to the BHI was off their rocker nuts. That situation was always going to end up as a viral video.

I can see (and the BHI discuss in their video) that Phillips came in and started playing the drum to calm the tensions down, and you can feel it in the video.

What tensions? The boys were chanting the school spirit cheers. There is no hate in that. It was a form of diversion to get away from the hateful attacks. There was no need for the lying native american to go in and harass those boys as he did...and then lie about it. Shameful

You haven't watched the video. I am disappointed to see so many people who are happy to raise entitled, bratty kids. It is surprising but I guess not so surprising.

The NA guy has a history and it’s not a good one

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Anonymous wrote:The Native American protestors had drums and were accompanied by at least one person with a camera.

And that's all she wrote folks. Professional activists.

infowars is alive and kicking

Why film it?

Why not? With all of the nutters out there it doesn’t hurt.

So it had nothing to to with a narrative?

I wouldn’t automatically conclude that. There are many reasons to record it.

And use it to one’s advantage? Consider Phillip’s history

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Anonymous wrote:I think the boys were being punks, I'm ambivalent about the Native American drummer, and I think the Black Israelites are jerks.

All that said, the facts of this matter are almost beside the point. It's clearly a vessel for everyone to put their biases into and use to club the other side over the head with. Ironically, if the interaction had more substance to it, it would get less attention because that would interfere with our ability to project our emotions onto it and use it for a proxy war with the Other Side.

The boys are (wait for it) boys. Teenagers. The ADULTS were the Black men and the N.A. men and they deliberately provoked the teens, probably because of the hats. There's no other way to see it - the adults should have acted like adults. They, however, are liberal activists which explains the lack of good judgement.

You have it backward. The kids should have been respectful toward the adults. Back in my day, if I'd gone around mouthing off to adults like that, they would've beat the shit out of me. I can't say that's the proper way to handle disrespectful kids, but at times like these, I can see why people get nostalgic for "the good old days."

I'm so sorry. Respect is earned, not given. And when people are shouting slurs at you and getting in your face, you don't have to be respectful.

I don't think you watched the video from when the conflict began.

I know who the Israelites are and their patterns of behavior

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the boys were being punks, I'm ambivalent about the Native American drummer, and I think the Black Israelites are jerks.

All that said, the facts of this matter are almost beside the point. It's clearly a vessel for everyone to put their biases into and use to club the other side over the head with. Ironically, if the interaction had more substance to it, it would get less attention because that would interfere with our ability to project our emotions onto it and use it for a proxy war with the Other Side.

The boys are (wait for it) boys. Teenagers. The ADULTS were the Black men and the N.A. men and they deliberately provoked the teens, probably because of the hats. There's no other way to see it - the adults should have acted like adults. They, however, are liberal activists which explains the lack of good judgement.

You have it backward. The kids should have been respectful toward the adults. Back in my day, if I'd gone around mouthing off to adults like that, they would've beat the shit out of me. I can't say that's the proper way to handle disrespectful kids, but at times like these, I can see why people get nostalgic for "the good old days."

I'm so sorry. Respect is earned, not given. And when people are shouting slurs at you and getting in your face, you don't have to be respectful.

Hah, well, like I said, when I was a kid, things were different. Plenty of adults who were f*ck-ups who I was expected to address as "ma'am and sir." Kids had to earn the right to judge who was entitled to respect and who was not.

What a dangerous state of mind. This is how kids get abused

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK. I think the kid was wrong and should apologize to the man for the little staring contest.... but........

I just saw a video of this incident from another angle and from before the kid was face to face with him.
The man walked up toward the group of kids. He walked into the group. It wasn't like the kids surrounded him.

Phillips, the man, doesn't appear to be the victim he is being portrayed as. As an adult, why approach a group of kids?

Watch for yourself.
https://twitter.com/SchumeMae/status/1086804759707815943

Phillips said that he saw the kids taunting a group of black kids and was worried that things would get violent. So, he walked between the groups to keep them apart.

This is a joke. The group of black kids turned out to be a group of black jews spewing hatred vitriol.

They're not Jews.

Black Hebrew Israelites - they were an older crew, according to Phillips, and they're labeled a hate group. But my question was (it was deleted) who started it? Did the boys taunt the BHI or did the BHI taunt them?

Phillips took BHI'a side.

The BHI were yelling at everyone (including the native americans at first). When the kids came wearing Make America Great stuff to the Native American march, it was too easy of a target. They yelled things like, " You want to build a wall, but you stole their land to begin with!" and stuff like that.

Watch the long video. The conflict starts at 50 min and goes to 1:12 before Phillips comes in. It is super tense because there were like 70+ big teenagers chanting and acting aggressively, and of course the 5 BHI men were not going to back down. It was very tense. If I had been there, I would have been very uncomfortable. The chaperones should have been paying attention and whoever gave permission for the kids to start chanting back to the BHI was off their rocker nuts. That situation was always going to end up as a viral video.

I can see (and the BHI discuss in their video) that Phillips came in and started playing the drum to calm the tensions down, and you can feel it in the video.

What tensions? The boys were chanting the school spirit cheers. There is no hate in that. It was a form of diversion to get away from the hateful attacks. There was no need for the lying native american to go in and harass those boys as he did...and then lie about it. Shameful

You haven't watched the video. I am disappointed to see so many people who are happy to raise entitled, bratty kids. It is surprising but I guess not so surprising.

The NA guy has a history and it’s not a good one

Native American history is very tragic. I suggest you read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee. Gut-wrenching and maddening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK. I think the kid was wrong and should apologize to the man for the little staring contest.... but........

I just saw a video of this incident from another angle and from before the kid was face to face with him.
The man walked up toward the group of kids. He walked into the group. It wasn't like the kids surrounded him.

Phillips, the man, doesn't appear to be the victim he is being portrayed as. As an adult, why approach a group of kids?

Watch for yourself.
https://twitter.com/SchumeMae/status/1086804759707815943

Phillips said that he saw the kids taunting a group of black kids and was worried that things would get violent. So, he walked between the groups to keep them apart.

This is a joke. The group of black kids turned out to be a group of black jews spewing hatred vitriol.

They're not Jews.

I thought black israelites were jewish but I guess only some of them are?

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not, but they are not Jews. In fact, they hate Jews - and whites in general - and have been labeled a hate group:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2008/racist-black-hebrew-israelites-becoming-more-militant

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As a parent, I don't look for excuses for my kid to get away with being badly behaved. I find the rush to paint Phillips as the bad guy to be very representative of how lazy people parent. It is everyone ELSE's fault that their precious kid did YZ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyway, I agree with the WTF were the chaperones??? They could have intervened and shut it down at so many points.

Watch after 2:20 in this video https://vimeo.com/312411257

I don't think she was the one who gave them permission to chant! She looks pissed at the kids and sounds frustrated by the situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in the Chinatown neighborhood and have to walk by the black hebrew israelites every Friday afternoon. They are obviously a bunch of nutters who try to antagonize passers-by. They are like Westboro Baptist Church cult. Any reasonable person who encounters them should know not to take the bait and engage. The fact that these students didn't immediately realize this shows their own social ignorance. This is the future patriarchy--they think they know everything but they are all a bunch of idiots with red hats.

Yea, your every-Friday-afternoon experience as a working adult is exactly transferable to high school kids from Kentucky who is here for a weekend.

???
If the kids were not able to handle demonstrations in a big city, why were they brought to DC to go to a demonstration without any direction on how to behave?
And for the chaperones: who the hell takes kids out anywhere without prepping them, and then supervising them? Who thought having a conflict with crazy street preachers was a good idea (and being from the south, I KNOW they have them there.)

New poster here.

The south? Since when is a Cincinnati suburb part of the south?

Since it's in Kentucky which was a slave state?

Can I suggest a good history book on 19th century America for you?