U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

“Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%.”

People knew which boxes to check last year to get a boost. The ideal candidate is now a Hispanic student from Poe or Black student from Whitman who reports being economically disadvantaged.

Only amoral people checked it if they weren’t truly low-income.

What's the definition of low-income?

Did you qualify for free or reduced lunches before the pandemic? Did you have a serious financial setback during the pandemic?

Is there an official thing at of quantifying this? Can one get a certificate of low income?

There are a variety of resources available if you need some assistance.

Info and application for free/reduced lunch.
https://www.fcps.edu/resources/student-safety-and-wellness/food-and-nutrition-programs/free-and-reduced-price-meals

More info:
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/nutrition/resources/faqs.shtml

“ Children from families with incomes at or below 130 percent of the poverty level are eligible for free meals. Those between 130 percent and 185 percent of the poverty level are eligible for reduced-price meals”


https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/familyservices/sites/familyservices/files/assets/boardsauthoritiescommissions/community-action-advisory-board/pdfs/2020-community-action-advisory-board-state-of-the-poor-bookmark.pdf

“ In 2019, poverty for a family of four is defined as a family annual income of less than $25,750 per year.”

So we have 25% of the current class with family income below $25k per year?

Or taking the 185% criteria, 25% of the class has less than $60k. Who's measuring this?

Less than $50k family income rather

I would really like to see verification....for all the touring of the 25% number.

It’s all self reported based on the 2 meals questions on the application. Since everyone gets free meals, anyone can say yes.

Lisa Williams the FCPS equity czar, left in Dec 2021. Was her departure related to the meals questions?

Unbelievable..essentially answering yes on that question led to +131 more admissions while the story being told is that they earn less than $47K in family income? this is what happens when fools don't understand process.

Some of those are probably parents trying to game the system but there are certainly more ED kids than the prior process (0.6%).

Based on what? Feeling?

With a county with 27% low-income it takes effort to only have 0.6% low-income students. Just by opening up to all middle schools - including the poor ones - you’ll get more than 0.6%. Add in English learners and % likely to go up even more.

I don’t know where you got 0.6% but URMs typically make up about 4-6% of the students at TJ.

PP was talking about the low-income students at TJ, not URMs. You are conflating low-income with URMs? Racist much?

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Anonymous wrote:Asians are smarter than any other race and people cannot handle it so they discriminate and are racist.

Well, except those low income Asians that don't seem to do as well for some reason.

Go check out Stuyvesant. Inconvenient truth.

Tell that to the low-income Asians in FCPS who were NOT getting in before the change.

0.6% low-income students admitted for class of 2024.

$40,000 HHI ain't wealthy by any imagination bro. GTFOH.

It’s $47.5k in FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Asians are smarter than any other race and people cannot handle it so they discriminate and are racist.

Well, except those low income Asians that don't seem to do as well for some reason.

Go check out Stuyvesant. Inconvenient truth.

It's fun to compare the schools but hard to draw any conclusions from that. If you try, you just end up sounding clueless.

Almost all the Asian students (Stuy is 75% Asian) are poor. Poor students who could barely buy books to prep. Inconvenient truth.

That’s nice. We are talking about TJHSST where practically ZERO low-income students - including Asians - were admitted before the admissions process change. Out of a population with 27% low-income.

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Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income.

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Anonymous wrote:Asians are smarter than any other race and people cannot handle it so they discriminate and are racist.

Well, except those low income Asians that don't seem to do as well for some reason.

Go check out Stuyvesant. Inconvenient truth.

It's fun to compare the schools but hard to draw any conclusions from that. If you try, you just end up sounding clueless.

Almost all the Asian students (Stuy is 75% Asian) are poor. Poor students who could barely buy books to prep. Inconvenient truth.

That’s nice. We are talking about TJHSST where practically ZERO low-income students - including Asians - were admitted before the admissions process change. Out of a population with 27% low-income.

And I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor people can't gain admission.

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Anonymous wrote:Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income.

I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor students can't gain admission. You keep changing the subject and I will keep reminding.

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Anonymous wrote:Asians are smarter than any other race and people cannot handle it so they discriminate and are racist.

Well, except those low income Asians that don't seem to do as well for some reason.

Go check out Stuyvesant. Inconvenient truth.

It's fun to compare the schools but hard to draw any conclusions from that. If you try, you just end up sounding clueless.

Almost all the Asian students (Stuy is 75% Asian) are poor. Poor students who could barely buy books to prep. Inconvenient truth.

That’s nice. We are talking about TJHSST where practically ZERO low-income students - including Asians - were admitted before the admissions process change. Out of a population with 27% low-income.

And I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor people can't gain admission.

They weren’t admitted to TJ before the change.

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Anonymous wrote:Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income.

I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor students can't gain admission. You keep changing the subject and I will keep reminding.

Before last year, they couldn't be admitted to TJ. You apparently need to be reminded of that.

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Anonymous wrote:Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income.

I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor students can't gain admission. You keep changing the subject and I will keep reminding.

Before last year, they couldn't be admitted to TJ. You apparently need to be reminded of that.

I am not sure there has been any verification of family income at TJ as being below $47k to determine percentage of low income students.

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Anonymous wrote:Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income.

I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor students can't gain admission. You keep changing the subject and I will keep reminding.

Before last year, they couldn't be admitted to TJ. You apparently need to be reminded of that.

I am not sure there has been any verification of family income at TJ as being below $47k to determine percentage of low income students.

They have farms data for every year.

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Anonymous wrote:Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income.

I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor students can't gain admission. You keep changing the subject and I will keep reminding.

Before last year, they couldn't be admitted to TJ. You apparently need to be reminded of that.

I am not sure there has been any verification of family income at TJ as being below $47k to determine percentage of low income students.

They have farms data for every year.

As has been explained a few times on this discussion, FARMS data is totally corrupted by the way the question was posed by FCPS - even millionaire households could have legally opted-in to FARMS. Any determination of low-income kids doing better under the new process is absolute fiction.

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Anonymous wrote:Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income.

I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor students can't gain admission. You keep changing the subject and I will keep reminding.

Before last year, they couldn't be admitted to TJ. You apparently need to be reminded of that.

I am not sure there has been any verification of family income at TJ as being below $47k to determine percentage of low income students.

They have farms data for every year.

As has been explained a few times on this discussion, FARMS data is totally corrupted by the way the question was posed by FCPS - even millionaire households could have legally opted-in to FARMS. Any determination of low-income kids doing better under the new process is absolute fiction.

Do you have any data to back up that assertion? Can you even point to anecdotal data of someone misrepresenting their family as FARMs eligible?

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Anonymous wrote:Stuyvesant is 45% low-income.

53% of NYC public school kids are low-income.

I was responding to the moron who kept saying poor students can't gain admission. You keep changing the subject and I will keep reminding.

Before last year, they couldn't be admitted to TJ. You apparently need to be reminded of that.

I am not sure there has been any verification of family income at TJ as being below $47k to determine percentage of low income students.

They have farms data for every year.

As has been explained a few times on this discussion, FARMS data is totally corrupted by the way the question was posed by FCPS - even millionaire households could have legally opted-in to FARMS. Any determination of low-income kids doing better under the new process is absolute fiction.

Ok. We do know that before covid and before the change there were practically no low-income students at TJ. 0.6% admitted for class of 2024.

So even getting a handful more kids from the unrepresented MSs or English-learners would have doubled the previous #s.

Yes, amoral parents may have selected “free lunch” so we don’t know the exact #, but it surely is greater than 0.6%.

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As someone who has observed the TJHSST class of 2025 up close, there is no way that 25% are low income.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who has observed the TJHSST class of 2025 up close, there is no way that 25% are low income.

More than 3 kids out of 550?

That’s all it takes for an increase.