Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:People don't understand that the history of Palestine in this conflict was nationalist, not Islamist. They are probably not old enough to remember how this all started. All they know is the Taliban, al Qaeda, ISIS, Iran.

And all they see is skin tone. And they stupidly think Jews = European white people and Palestinians = POC

Well, skin tone counts for a lot when you're hailing a taxi, as former President Obama said. I don't think many Israelis would have problems there.

The reality of Jewish demographics in Israel is that they are about one-third white European, one-third native to the Israel region or other Middle Eastern countries (which are all also counted as "white" per the United States), and one-third Jewish people from everywhere else.

So it's not unreasonable for oppressed people of color to see Israel as a majority white nation.

This is completely false. 80% of Jews are Ashkenazi. We are genetically partially European and partially Middle Eastern. My 23andme results say Ashkenazi Jewish, not Russian or Ukrainian, where my family is from.

Sephardic Jews are from Spain and North Africa.

Mizrahim Jews never left the Middle East.

As for skin tone: Palestinian Arabs and Jews are indistinguishable.

Ethiopian Jews might disagree that they are indistinguishabl. They’ve certainly been treated differently by Israel.

Yes, I apologize. About 1% of the Israeli population is Ethiopian Jewish.

I was speaking about the vast majority of people.

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

You have got to be kidding. The ME hates us because we have equal rights for women, lgbtq people are accepted, we are jewish, we don’t believe in public beheadings etc. Get a clue.

This statement is ridiculous. If the US didn't support dictators, murderers, and coups over and over again (Saddam, the Shah, Netanyahu, Sissi, and the list goes on) then maybe people would like them more.

Honestly people don't go around hating the US for what they do in their own country. They have their own lives to worry about. It's when the US goes and meddles in other countries, supports repressive regimes, and oh yeah, those two horrific wars that occurred in the past 20 years, kinda makes people sour on them.

Get a clue.

They hate you because you keep killing Palestinians.

If they went years without killing a Palestinian, Palestinians would still hate Jews and Israelis…and western values.

Israel has no western values. Nice try.
They are as barbaric as Hamas. And, yes they'd still hate you for stealing their land and oppressing millions of people.

Sorry, let me clarify: when I say western values, I’m speaking broadly…and well beyond Israel and Jews.

Palestinians aren’t fond of our American ways.

Their ethnic and religious identities shape their views on everything and let’s just say they aren’t fond of our American ways.

I find it baffling why Palestinians opt to live in the US and Canada and other progressive, de facto Christian societies when they have such rigid views on religion, women, gays, etc.

They seemingly aren’t fond of diversity and they are very public about their visceral hatred of Jews regardless of where they live. ICYMI: my Jewish husband who has never set foot in Israel (nor have any of his relatives) has not stolen land or oppressed anyone. Period.

I’ve been seeking out a broad spectrum of news and social media coverage of this outrageous situation, and I struggle to get past Palestinian pundits who simply refuse to admit what Hamas did was wrong.

I’m looking at the ambassador for the plo and the Egyptian Jon Stewart. Are their Palestinian brothers suffering? Yes. Reasonable people acknowledge it. Did Hamas commit barbarous acts on Oct. 7? Crickets. They won’t say so. Instead they dig in on whataboutism.

No clue how you fix this problem when the supposedly reasonable pundits only see their side. In fact, I think the only way to solve this is with a neutral third party who lays down the law and enforces it. Both sides have blood on their hands and are far too emotionally and religiously invested to do the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:People don't understand that the history of Palestine in this conflict was nationalist, not Islamist. They are probably not old enough to remember how this all started. All they know is the Taliban, al Qaeda, ISIS, Iran.

And all they see is skin tone. And they stupidly think Jews = European white people and Palestinians = POC

Well, skin tone counts for a lot when you're hailing a taxi, as former President Obama said. I don't think many Israelis would have problems there.

The reality of Jewish demographics in Israel is that they are about one-third white European, one-third native to the Israel region or other Middle Eastern countries (which are all also counted as "white" per the United States), and one-third Jewish people from everywhere else.

So it's not unreasonable for oppressed people of color to see Israel as a majority white nation.

This is completely false. 80% of Jews are Ashkenazi. We are genetically partially European and partially Middle Eastern. My 23andme results say Ashkenazi Jewish, not Russian or Ukrainian, where my family is from.

Sephardic Jews are from Spain and North Africa.

Mizrahim Jews never left the Middle East.

As for skin tone: Palestinian Arabs and Jews are indistinguishable.

Ethiopian Jews might disagree that they are indistinguishabl. They’ve certainly been treated differently by Israel.

Yes, I apologize. About 1% of the Israeli population is Ethiopian Jewish.

I was speaking about the vast majority of people.

How Jewish people in west and central Africa?

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Faux News with the spin as if the real oppressor isn't Israel. Such benevolent overlords killing Palestinians to free them from Israel's tyranny.

Don't bother listening to the son of a Hamas leader about the brutality of Hamas and how THEY are treating the Palestinian people in Gaza..........

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Anonymous wrote:America is just as much in fear of Israel as the Middle East countries are.

Nothing else could explain the double standards in treatment

Lol. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The US wants israel to do the dirty work of keeping the peace in the region without a western country needing to constantly be at war or occupy some country in the region to prevent rampant anti western terrorism.

Israel is a democracy in name only . Netanyahu has been PM for years and years and years now. Longer than Putin or Erdogan have been in office.

Israel does no dirty work for us and they certainly don’t keep the peace. We do the dirty work for them.

The IDF prevents the us military from having to go in everywhere like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s no small feat.

I’m no supporter of Netanyahu, I’m anti settlement and pro two state solution. Plenty of moderates out there who support Israel’s right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, and see the mutually beneficial relationship our two countries have. I would love to see Netanyahu go and when the dust settles after this war, very possible he’ll be on the chopping block.

Where is everywhere? If we had a more balanced foreign policy and put Israel on check from time to time, we wouldn’t even get the ire and anger from the Middle East period.

Is there a way we can keep a friendship with Israel but also criticize Israel when they are wrong as Obama did once upon a time regarding settlements? Netanyahu backstabbed him to align with Putin who is now aligned with Hamas so I agree he needs to be on worse than a chopping block. He should be tried for corruption in Israeli court and jailed just like Trump should be jailed here

You have got to be kidding. The ME hates us because we have equal rights for women, lgbtq people are accepted, we are jewish, we don’t believe in public beheadings etc. Get a clue.

This statement is ridiculous. If the US didn't support dictators, murderers, and coups over and over again (Saddam, the Shah, Netanyahu, Sissi, and the list goes on) then maybe people would like them more.

Honestly people don't go around hating the US for what they do in their own country. They have their own lives to worry about. It's when the US goes and meddles in other countries, supports repressive regimes, and oh yeah, those two horrific wars that occurred in the past 20 years, kinda makes people sour on them.

Get a clue.

They hate you because you keep killing Palestinians.

If they went years without killing a Palestinian, Palestinians would still hate Jews and Israelis…and western values.

Israel has no western values. Nice try.
They are as barbaric as Hamas. And, yes they'd still hate you for stealing their land and oppressing millions of people.

Sorry, let me clarify: when I say western values, I’m speaking broadly…and well beyond Israel and Jews.

Palestinians aren’t fond of our American ways.

Their ethnic and religious identities shape their views on everything and let’s just say they aren’t fond of our American ways.

I find it baffling why Palestinians opt to live in the US and Canada and other progressive, de facto Christian societies when they have such rigid views on religion, women, gays, etc.

They seemingly aren’t fond of diversity and they are very public about their visceral hatred of Jews regardless of where they live. ICYMI: my Jewish husband who has never set foot in Israel (nor have any of his relatives) has not stolen land or oppressed anyone. Period.

I’ve been seeking out a broad spectrum of news and social media coverage of this outrageous situation, and I struggle to get past Palestinian pundits who simply refuse to admit what Hamas did was wrong.

I’m looking at the ambassador for the plo and the Egyptian Jon Stewart. Are their Palestinian brothers suffering? Yes. Reasonable people acknowledge it. Did Hamas commit barbarous acts on Oct. 7? Crickets. They won’t say so. Instead they dig in on whataboutism.

No clue how you fix this problem when the supposedly reasonable pundits only see their side. In fact, I think the only way to solve this is with a neutral third party who lays down the law and enforces it. Both sides have blood on their hands and are far too emotionally and religiously invested to do the right thing.

Wait: are you trying to argue that Jews and Palestinians don’t share American values?

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Anonymous wrote:People don't understand that the history of Palestine in this conflict was nationalist, not Islamist. They are probably not old enough to remember how this all started. All they know is the Taliban, al Qaeda, ISIS, Iran.

And all they see is skin tone. And they stupidly think Jews = European white people and Palestinians = POC

Well, skin tone counts for a lot when you're hailing a taxi, as former President Obama said. I don't think many Israelis would have problems there.

The reality of Jewish demographics in Israel is that they are about one-third white European, one-third native to the Israel region or other Middle Eastern countries (which are all also counted as "white" per the United States), and one-third Jewish people from everywhere else.

So it's not unreasonable for oppressed people of color to see Israel as a majority white nation.

This is completely false. 80% of Jews are Ashkenazi. We are genetically partially European and partially Middle Eastern. My 23andme results say Ashkenazi Jewish, not Russian or Ukrainian, where my family is from.

Sephardic Jews are from Spain and North Africa.

Mizrahim Jews never left the Middle East.

As for skin tone: Palestinian Arabs and Jews are indistinguishable.

"Well, skin tone counts for a lot when you're hailing a taxi, as former President Obama said." +100.

Palestinians and Jews are not indistinguishable. Not by a large margin. I've watched Tzipi Hotovely (Israeli UK Ambassador) in interviews a lot lately. She looks like any white American. In contrast, Husam Zolmot (PA Ambassador) does not. Not in the slightest.

I'm so tired of hearing that the European Jews look identical to Palestinians. THEY DO NOT

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Is that slogan a hate crime? Regardless, I can’t see how any Jewish student in that school would feel safe.

From the river to the sea is a call for Palestine to exist as a state from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River. It’s a call for the eradication of Israel.

And before someone says it: I know Likud says similar things. But I don’t see tons of Jewish high schoolers marching through the halls chanting “from the river to the sea.”

Jewish high schoolers don’t need to. They have the full might of every western superpower doing it for them.

Try some empathy for what it must feel like, as a Jewish student, to hear that in a school.

Palestinian students get to hear the president of the united states praise the bombing of civilians

False.

$100 million in aid to refugees in Gaza, $100 billion in arms for Israel to drop on them

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Anonymous wrote:People don't understand that the history of Palestine in this conflict was nationalist, not Islamist. They are probably not old enough to remember how this all started. All they know is the Taliban, al Qaeda, ISIS, Iran.

And all they see is skin tone. And they stupidly think Jews = European white people and Palestinians = POC

Well, skin tone counts for a lot when you're hailing a taxi, as former President Obama said. I don't think many Israelis would have problems there.

The reality of Jewish demographics in Israel is that they are about one-third white European, one-third native to the Israel region or other Middle Eastern countries (which are all also counted as "white" per the United States), and one-third Jewish people from everywhere else.

So it's not unreasonable for oppressed people of color to see Israel as a majority white nation.

This is completely false. 80% of Jews are Ashkenazi. We are genetically partially European and partially Middle Eastern. My 23andme results say Ashkenazi Jewish, not Russian or Ukrainian, where my family is from.

Sephardic Jews are from Spain and North Africa.

Mizrahim Jews never left the Middle East.

As for skin tone: Palestinian Arabs and Jews are indistinguishable.

Ethiopian Jews might disagree that they are indistinguishabl. They’ve certainly been treated differently by Israel.

Yes, I apologize. About 1% of the Israeli population is Ethiopian Jewish.

I was speaking about the vast majority of people.

How Jewish people in west and central Africa?

What’s your question?

I’m talking about Jews in Israel. The vast majority of them are indistinguishable from the vast majority of Palestinian Arabs.

Ethiopian Jews are awesome, and make up about 1% of Israeli Jews.

I’m sure there are Jews in West and Central Africa, but they are in tiny numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to reality … IDF must have good intelligence assets now, with the quickening success it has been having with neutralizing important Hamas leaders. This may be displeasing to some people, who are rooting for “that team” against Israel, but it should not be: Hamas cannot hold the people of Gaza hostage anymore.

Do you think this is going to make Gazans pro-Israel? They may kill Hamas, but they've solidified hatred of Israel in another generation.

They have solidified hatred for Israel in another generation for an entire REGION, not just Gaza. It’s an endless cycle of hatred and violence. As an American I want off this ride.

Do you also want off the ride in Ukraine?

Nope, I actually don’t. Ukraine is legitimately defending itself and there’s an actual strategic interest in the Us not allowing Russia to annex Ukraine. I’ve never seen a coherent argument as to why Israel is such an important “ally.” It’s more like it’s the US’s dependent and destroys our credibility on the world stage.

Yes Putin and Xi are currently hanging out and asking for a new world order. The Arab world has snubbed Biden and Co. Apparently Blinken was kept waiting an entire day to meet MBS who kept delaying the meeting.

The U.S. is getting sidelined because of its blind support for Israel. The U.S. needs to stay out of this conflict. Most of the hatred for the U.S. around the world is because of its unwavering support for Israel and Israel doesn’t care. They take billions from the U.S. and then keep killing Palestinians indiscriminately. How is Israel useful to the U.S.????

Israel is not. It actually hurts US interest in the world. I can see why other countries in the region are not meeting with Biden. Biden with his rhetoric seems to have joined Likud party. What do you expect with Blinken. He practically swore allegiance to Israel. Great to win over the hard right Israelis but it does leave you boxed in with no options. Every other president tried to maintain a public veneer of neutrality. Not this one.

Oh and the bad stuff has not even started. Wait till the ground war kicks in. In the world view there is no difference between the US and Israel. We might as well send troop in to remove Palestinian from the West Bank and help the settlers. Why not at this point?

Terrible missteps for US Diplomacy and long-term national interests. The Admin can't even articulate its stance on Israel vis a vis American interest other than Israel is a democracy and a friend, even as Israel detonates the pillars of Western Values and rules based system.

The US also tipped its hands with respect to the Saudis and other countries in the region. When Iran attacked Saudi Oil production, the US made zero interventions or show of force. When Israel faced an intelligence failure and terrorist attack, the US responded with full force, making clear to every lulled country in the Middle East that they are a)not true US allies b)US cannot be a guarantor of security and c) US cannot be an impartial stabilizing force in the region.

So Biden now has to go and kiss the ring of Maduro in Venezuela to patch up an oil problem short-term, but long-term the damage has been done.

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Is that slogan a hate crime? Regardless, I can’t see how any Jewish student in that school would feel safe.

From the river to the sea is a call for Palestine to exist as a state from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River. It’s a call for the eradication of Israel.

And before someone says it: I know Likud says similar things. But I don’t see tons of Jewish high schoolers marching through the halls chanting “from the river to the sea.”

Jewish high schoolers don’t need to. They have the full might of every western superpower doing it for them.

Try some empathy for what it must feel like, as a Jewish student, to hear that in a school.

Palestinian students get to hear the president of the united states praise the bombing of civilians

False.

$100 million in aid to refugees in Gaza, $100 billion in arms for Israel to drop on them

$100M is what food for 2 weeks?

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Anonymous wrote:Back to reality … IDF must have good intelligence assets now, with the quickening success it has been having with neutralizing important Hamas leaders. This may be displeasing to some people, who are rooting for “that team” against Israel, but it should not be: Hamas cannot hold the people of Gaza hostage anymore.

Do you think this is going to make Gazans pro-Israel? They may kill Hamas, but they've solidified hatred of Israel in another generation.

They have solidified hatred for Israel in another generation for an entire REGION, not just Gaza. It’s an endless cycle of hatred and violence. As an American I want off this ride.

Do you really not understand the the hatred exists no matter what Israel does?

It is Israel's mere existence that causes the hatred (with a hefty dose of religious intolerance as the cherry on the sundae).

JFC. You guys have to stop the perpetual victimization. It really is so counterproductive to any peace in the region. You cannot argue with the pro-Israel people because they justify murder with "well, my existence bothered him". No, Barbara, it was the fact that you killed his family. If you would stop that, he'd be cool.

Leave Maryland and meet other people. Make friends with Arabs. You will learn that they are humans - just like you - who want to live in peace. If you stop bombing them, they will be ok. It is YOUR hatred that exacerbates this.

So how do you explain the massacre of Jews by Palestinians before the state of Israel even existed?

How do you explain the Arab/Palestinian attempt to eradicate Israel on the day it was founded?

How do you explain the Hamas charter calling for the obliteration of Israel?

I grant you that there are thriving Christian and Jewish populations in many ME countries. I mean, you have ___________, and ____________, and _________________, and ______________. So we have to take those examples into account.

You're a moron. Lebanon was founded as a Christian country by the French. The population was 60/40 Christian to Muslim. Christians are thriving there and there are a lot of them. The president is a Maronite Christian. 10% of Egypt is Coptic. Our best friends are Christians from Jordan. And we are good friends with Lebanese Druze. Do you actually know ANYONE from an Arab country? Anyone at all?

And yes, the native ARabs were very angry on day 1 when they were kicked out of their houses, burned and murdered. It was a pretty disgusting display of violence during the Nakbah.

Ah, so you've just admitted that it's the existence of Israel that's the problem.

Though that doesn't quite explain the pre-Israel massacre of Jews in Hebron, does it?

Let me be very clear in saying that I know some delightful folks from Arab countries (Lebanon and Syria) and have nothing whatsoever against Palestinians or Arabs.

But by any objective measure, the region is intolerant and not pluralistic

Bringing up the Copts as an example of pluralism is RIDICULOUS. They are treated terribly.

Lebanon does have a pluralistic history, one that is under grave threat.

And you know one of the 7 Christians in Jordan (exaggerating for effect, but they make up 3% of the total population).

Ugh. It was the killing and murdering people to get them out of homes that was the problem. And continues to be the problem.
And stop with the Islamophobia already. I would not describe most of Israel as "tolerant and pluralistic" given the current government.
You really keep making things worse.

PP here.

So how DO you explain Hebron? Fact is, for many in the region, the existence of Israel is the problem. That's indisputable fact.

I'm not Islamophobic at all (FTR, you brought up Islam, not me). It's in many ways a beautiful religion.

But your pretense that most Arab countries are pluralistic, tolerant, and welcoming is simply ridiculous. It just ain't so.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to reality … IDF must have good intelligence assets now, with the quickening success it has been having with neutralizing important Hamas leaders. This may be displeasing to some people, who are rooting for “that team” against Israel, but it should not be: Hamas cannot hold the people of Gaza hostage anymore.

Do you think this is going to make Gazans pro-Israel? They may kill Hamas, but they've solidified hatred of Israel in another generation.

They have solidified hatred for Israel in another generation for an entire REGION, not just Gaza. It’s an endless cycle of hatred and violence. As an American I want off this ride.

Do you really not understand the the hatred exists no matter what Israel does?

It is Israel's mere existence that causes the hatred (with a hefty dose of religious intolerance as the cherry on the sundae).

JFC. You guys have to stop the perpetual victimization. It really is so counterproductive to any peace in the region. You cannot argue with the pro-Israel people because they justify murder with "well, my existence bothered him". No, Barbara, it was the fact that you killed his family. If you would stop that, he'd be cool.

Leave Maryland and meet other people. Make friends with Arabs. You will learn that they are humans - just like you - who want to live in peace. If you stop bombing them, they will be ok. It is YOUR hatred that exacerbates this.

So how do you explain the massacre of Jews by Palestinians before the state of Israel even existed?

How do you explain the Arab/Palestinian attempt to eradicate Israel on the day it was founded?

How do you explain the Hamas charter calling for the obliteration of Israel?

I grant you that there are thriving Christian and Jewish populations in many ME countries. I mean, you have ___________, and ____________, and _________________, and ______________. So we have to take those examples into account.

You're a moron. Lebanon was founded as a Christian country by the French. The population was 60/40 Christian to Muslim. Christians are thriving there and there are a lot of them. The president is a Maronite Christian. 10% of Egypt is Coptic. Our best friends are Christians from Jordan. And we are good friends with Lebanese Druze. Do you actually know ANYONE from an Arab country? Anyone at all?

And yes, the native ARabs were very angry on day 1 when they were kicked out of their houses, burned and murdered. It was a pretty disgusting display of violence during the Nakbah.

Ah, so you've just admitted that it's the existence of Israel that's the problem.

Though that doesn't quite explain the pre-Israel massacre of Jews in Hebron, does it?

Let me be very clear in saying that I know some delightful folks from Arab countries (Lebanon and Syria) and have nothing whatsoever against Palestinians or Arabs.

But by any objective measure, the region is intolerant and not pluralistic

Bringing up the Copts as an example of pluralism is RIDICULOUS. They are treated terribly.

Lebanon does have a pluralistic history, one that is under grave threat.

And you know one of the 7 Christians in Jordan (exaggerating for effect, but they make up 3% of the total population).

Ugh. It was the killing and murdering people to get them out of homes that was the problem. And continues to be the problem.
And stop with the Islamophobia already. I would not describe most of Israel as "tolerant and pluralistic" given the current government.
You really keep making things worse.

I don't know if any of the pro-Israel PPs who keep claiming generational suffering have ever met a Palestinian or any other Arabs from the region, or even follow any on X. I would really recommend that you try to hear their POV to see what it's like to live under bombings and oppression for so long. Read - https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi/status/1714985262873190512?s=42&t=CjYah8aRcPR-pKSS0zmNGA

It's long but I wonder if what he says will resonate?

"For 10 days we've been hearing openly genocidal statements fully supported and sometimes even endorsed by Western leaders, leaders who are supposed to stand up for "democracy", "human rights", etc. But not only for 10 days. This has been our entire lives. This has been 75 years....I also want to say that even in the deepest darkness of my anguish and my triggers I did not desire revenge. Not even a little bit. I didn't want anyone hurt to quench my pain. All I want in the moment was for our lives to be protected and our humanity to be acknowledged....Every friend I talk to is deeply triggered. For Palestinians the triggers are intergenerational. We grew up seeing our people getting blown up or humiliated or subjugated or shot or beaten. Our parents grew up with that. Our grandparents. All of our trauma is exploding."

Sound familiar?

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The speed at which the hospital story shifted from “war crime” to “nevermind” once it became clear that it was caused by internal rocket fire and not Israel, shows that these people don’t actually care about Palestinian lives. They just hate Jewish ones.

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The numbers were always clearly exaggerated.

Can the media please stop repeating the overall fatality numbers provided by Hamas at face value? We can all agree that scores of civilians including children have been killed by Israel air strikes but the claim of thousands warrants scrutiny.