Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

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Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

You know, this fatalistic attitude you liberals have concerning the wall reminds me of the gun control debate. I bet it drives you crazy when people say, "Well, criminals will get their hands on guns no matter what, so there's no need to put into place (more) gun control laws." Right?

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It's a stupid analogy built on a strawman. So much for your crickets.

DP. It's actually a very apt analogy that you're unable to address. So much for your silly dismissal.

WRONG. It's a strawman argument because only utter and complete morons would make a completely ridiculous argument like "criminals will get their hands on guns no matter what so no need to put into place more gun laws." That much cannot be argued with... unless you yourself are an utter and complete moron.

And, as such, it becomes a stupid analogy, BECAUSE it is built on a moronic strawman.

Go back to school and learn some logic and critical thinking.

It's clear you don't understand what an analogy is.
"Only utter and complete morons would make a completely ridiculous argument like "immigrants will enter the country illegally no matter what so no need to put into place any barrier that might inhibit them or even slow them down." That much cannot be argued with... unless you yourself are an utter and complete moron.

Read that slowly. I have faith in you.

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DP. I think your problem and disconnect is that you are so deeply steeped in conservative media that you actually think "immigrants will enter the country illegally no matter what so no need to put into place any barrier that might inhibit them or even slow them down." is actually the position that everyone on the left has. It isn't. Maybe try broadening your horizons and trying different sources of information than hyperbolic right wing outlets.

DP. Anyone who has read this forum for any length of time has seen *exactly* that argument from the left. Anytime the subject of the wall is brought up, we hear from the usual suspects about how it's a "waste of money, doesn't work, blah blah blah." There is no way you can deny that, but I'm sure you will. As for "so deeply steeped" - take a look at your liberal news sources, won't you? And don't pretend you try and get a balanced diet of news from various sources. Whenever sources you don't agree with are presented here, you dismiss them as "not legitimate." You and your fellow liberals live in the most airtight echo chamber of all, but you'd never admit it.

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Anonymous wrote:tells you everything you need to know. the sad thing is the people in this thread defending the GOP on the issue

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Anonymous wrote:It's refreshing to see at least ONE Democrat visit the actual border and see what is really going on. He will be discounted by the far left here, but his policy proposals are at odds with with Biden is doing (or, actually, not doing).

Good for him. That really is refreshing to hear a Democrat state, "this is not good for our country and it is unsustainable."

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What is going on with our border should be more than enough to impeach Biden.

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Democrats wanted to do just that to Trump over the border issue - now we hear crickets from the same loudmouths referring to Trump's border as "concentration camps."

Let's remember it was Obama/ Biden who first put all those kids in wages while the media looked the other way.

Only fools voted Biden thinking he'd be better at handling the real crisis.

They didn't separate families, they put unaccompanied kids in places where they could be cared for and monitored. The monsters in the GOP literally ripped kids away from their parents and there are still HUNDREDS who have not been reconnected. It was a codified child trafficing scheme and it was horrifying. The idea that you are trying to equate the two actions is simply gaslighting.

I remember when the left wanted to make the Trump admin. to appear to be such monsters "locking kids in cages" that they used photos from Obama's administration to prove what monsters they are. Didn't take long for people to discover the photos were actually taken during Obama's reign.

Indeed. Obama was the Monster-in-Chief, and now that's Biden.

Please show where the Obama Administration or the Biden Administration has separated famiies and sold the kids into Christian adoption centers.

Wth is an “adoption center”?

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Anonymous wrote:It's refreshing to see at least ONE Democrat visit the actual border and see what is really going on. He will be discounted by the far left here, but his policy proposals are at odds with with Biden is doing (or, actually, not doing).

Good for him. That really is refreshing to hear a Democrat state, "this is not good for our country and it is unsustainable."

It's still just so unbelievable to me that you can walk into a country illegally, be briefly detained, and then just released to do whatever... for years. It's just crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:It's refreshing to see at least ONE Democrat visit the actual border and see what is really going on. He will be discounted by the far left here, but his policy proposals are at odds with with Biden is doing (or, actually, not doing).

Good for him. That really is refreshing to hear a Democrat state, "this is not good for our country and it is unsustainable."

It's still just so unbelievable to me that you can walk into a country illegally, be briefly detained, and then just released to do whatever... for years. It's just crazy.

Yep. No other country in the world allows this nonsense.

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He’s arresting more. You don’t like that?

....And releasing them into our country. It's more of an "encounter," not arrest.

The deportations are escorting them to the border, where the illegal immigrant becomes a legal immigrant via the CBP One app and Biden illegally lets him into the country.

The app gets the migrants into the system, from wherever they are, so they don't have to start the process at the border. It has helped reduce the crush significantly. Do you even understand this?

The app actually gives "permission" to Biden to release migrants into our country without holding them in facilities for any length of time.
The optics of the overcrowded holding facilities was too much for the Biden administration to handle. They are all about optics.
The issue of record number of migrants coming in hasn't been solved at all.

So you prefer the taxpayer house and feed these folks instead of letting them stay with family or friends until their hearing? That is not very fiscally responsible.

Yes it is. If you know you will be imprisoned, and likely deported after some length of time, then the flow will reduce substantially, and the cost will be much less.

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He’s arresting more. You don’t like that?

....And releasing them into our country. It's more of an "encounter," not arrest.

The deportations are escorting them to the border, where the illegal immigrant becomes a legal immigrant via the CBP One app and Biden illegally lets him into the country.

The app gets the migrants into the system, from wherever they are, so they don't have to start the process at the border. It has helped reduce the crush significantly. Do you even understand this?

Trump reduced the crush. It was Biden who increased it by opening the border. The app is merely a way of reducing the crush at the border that was caused by Biden's opening the border.

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He’s arresting more. You don’t like that?

....And releasing them into our country. It's more of an "encounter," not arrest.

The deportations are escorting them to the border, where the illegal immigrant becomes a legal immigrant via the CBP One app and Biden illegally lets him into the country.

The app gets the migrants into the system, from wherever they are, so they don't have to start the process at the border. It has helped reduce the crush significantly. Do you even understand this?

The app actually gives "permission" to Biden to release migrants into our country without holding them in facilities for any length of time.
The optics of the overcrowded holding facilities was too much for the Biden administration to handle. They are all about optics.
The issue of record number of migrants coming in hasn't been solved at all.

Because they don't consider it an issue, but a feature. They just don't want people knowing about it.

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Anonymous wrote:When will the MAGAs wake up to the fact that the wall is just a symbol, it's all mental - and not actually a barrier.

You know, this fatalistic attitude you liberals have concerning the wall reminds me of the gun control debate. I bet it drives you crazy when people say, "Well, criminals will get their hands on guns no matter what, so there's no need to put into place (more) gun control laws." Right?

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It's a stupid analogy built on a strawman. So much for your crickets.

DP. It's actually a very apt analogy that you're unable to address. So much for your silly dismissal.

WRONG. It's a strawman argument because only utter and complete morons would make a completely ridiculous argument like "criminals will get their hands on guns no matter what so no need to put into place more gun laws." That much cannot be argued with... unless you yourself are an utter and complete moron.

And, as such, it becomes a stupid analogy, BECAUSE it is built on a moronic strawman.

Go back to school and learn some logic and critical thinking.

It's clear you don't understand what an analogy is.
"Only utter and complete morons would make a completely ridiculous argument like "immigrants will enter the country illegally no matter what so no need to put into place any barrier that might inhibit them or even slow them down." That much cannot be argued with... unless you yourself are an utter and complete moron.

Read that slowly. I have faith in you.

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DP. I think your problem and disconnect is that you are so deeply steeped in conservative media that you actually think "immigrants will enter the country illegally no matter what so no need to put into place any barrier that might inhibit them or even slow them down." is actually the position that everyone on the left has. It isn't. Maybe try broadening your horizons and trying different sources of information than hyperbolic right wing outlets.

No their position is we want more immigrants so we shouldn't put up barriers.

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Anonymous wrote:It's refreshing to see at least ONE Democrat visit the actual border and see what is really going on. He will be discounted by the far left here, but his policy proposals are at odds with with Biden is doing (or, actually, not doing).

Good for him. That really is refreshing to hear a Democrat state, "this is not good for our country and it is unsustainable."

It's still just so unbelievable to me that you can walk into a country illegally, be briefly detained, and then just released to do whatever... for years. It's just crazy.

Yep. No other country in the world allows this nonsense.

To be precise, no other developed country in the world allows this nonsense.

Haiti or El Salvador or Somalia I'm pretty sure don't care. I guess this is the model some US politicos have in mind.

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Anonymous wrote:It's refreshing to see at least ONE Democrat visit the actual border and see what is really going on. He will be discounted by the far left here, but his policy proposals are at odds with with Biden is doing (or, actually, not doing).

Good for him. That really is refreshing to hear a Democrat state, "this is not good for our country and it is unsustainable."

It's still just so unbelievable to me that you can walk into a country illegally, be briefly detained, and then just released to do whatever... for years. It's just crazy.

Yep. No other country in the world allows this nonsense.

To be precise, no other developed country in the world allows this nonsense.

Haiti or El Salvador or Somalia I'm pretty sure don't care. I guess this is the model some US politicos have in mind.

It truly is a national security concern. A huge one.
I fear it will take another 9-11 type attack for this administration to get serious about securing our borders.

[Anonymous]

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What is going on with our border should be more than enough to impeach Biden.

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Democrats wanted to do just that to Trump over the border issue - now we hear crickets from the same loudmouths referring to Trump's border as "concentration camps."

Let's remember it was Obama/ Biden who first put all those kids in wages while the media looked the other way.

Only fools voted Biden thinking he'd be better at handling the real crisis.

They didn't separate families, they put unaccompanied kids in places where they could be cared for and monitored. The monsters in the GOP literally ripped kids away from their parents and there are still HUNDREDS who have not been reconnected. It was a codified child trafficing scheme and it was horrifying. The idea that you are trying to equate the two actions is simply gaslighting.

I remember when the left wanted to make the Trump admin. to appear to be such monsters "locking kids in cages" that they used photos from Obama's administration to prove what monsters they are. Didn't take long for people to discover the photos were actually taken during Obama's reign.

Indeed. Obama was the Monster-in-Chief, and now that's Biden.

Is it though? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/obama/video-2303768/Video-Obama-jokes-term-missing-fascinating-work.html

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Anonymous wrote:Obama didn’t separate families.
Neither did Biden.
Republicans liked Trump because he was willing to hurt people. He was willing to hurt children and babies, and republicans love him for it.
Deplorable is too nice a term.

Meanwhile, we don’t have enough workers here. We need immigrants.

Can’t wait for Ballard’s documentary showing all of you how many kids are being sold into sex slavery, especially at the border, and how our government is turning a blind eye. So many of these good, kind immigrants you speak of are the ones selling them in.

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Anonymous wrote:tells you everything you need to know. the sad thing is the people in this thread defending the GOP on the issue

It is really hard to take people like you seriously when you defend this crap......
Is it any wonder that we have recalls from Dole and other companies because of e coli?

I met with local farmers Cory Mellon, Alex Mueller, Hank Auza, and Robert Barkley in Yuma, Arizona. Yuma County provides 90% of the green leafy vegetables, like iceberg lettuce, arugula, spinach, and broccoli, to American tables between November and April. The tsunami of migrants walking across farm fields and defecating in irrigation canals threatens the safety of that food supply. Last year, one of their neighbors had to plow under 88 acres of broccoli and personally absorb the $10k per acre cost after migrants tainted irrigation water.

All deliberate. This administration is trying their best to create a massive crisis in this country. Desperate people who are hungry, afraid, etc are SO much easier to control.