What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I just crazy out of shape? Because I think doing an 8 mile hike (6 mile hike?) in the summer with a dog and an infant seems crazy. I wouldn’t do it with my dog and preschooler either. Even if it were milder summer temps like 85, and not 105.

That's the part that confounds me. Why did they think it was a good idea to take the baby out in that kind of weather? It just doesn't make sense.

Denial. I think the parents wanted to be able to say they did such a hike on such a hot day. They were hiking every weekend. They liked going to Burning Man. They had a close call on a different hike with altitude but didn’t apparently learn from it. I think they weren’t going to be deterred by the heat because that’s just how they roll. They probably thought they were starting their baby early on an outdoorsy life.

[Anonymous]

I was Googling to see if there was an update and came across Jonathan’s profile on All Trails. It says he’s completed the Hites Cove trail before.
https://www.alltrails.com/members/jonathan-gerrish/completed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I just crazy out of shape? Because I think doing an 8 mile hike (6 mile hike?) in the summer with a dog and an infant seems crazy. I wouldn’t do it with my dog and preschooler either. Even if it were milder summer temps like 85, and not 105.

That's the part that confounds me. Why did they think it was a good idea to take the baby out in that kind of weather? It just doesn't make sense.

Denial. I think the parents wanted to be able to say they did such a hike on such a hot day. They were hiking every weekend. They liked going to Burning Man. They had a close call on a different hike with altitude but didn’t apparently learn from it. I think they weren’t going to be deterred by the heat because that’s just how they roll. They probably thought they were starting their baby early on an outdoorsy life.

Where did you read they had a close call on another hike?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was Googling to see if there was an update and came across Jonathan’s profile on All Trails. It says he’s completed the Hites Cove trail before.
https://www.alltrails.com/members/jonathan-gerrish/completed

That’s interesting. As I review his profile, I get the impression that he is familiar with that area. He completed the Hites Cove Trail four years ago. So if he’s been hiking this area for quite a while, it might have given him a false sense of security that it was okay to take his family out there.

[Anonymous]

This is tragic, but given what I've read, I think overconfident tech bro and his 'cool girl' partner weren't going to be THOSE parents stuck inside when baby came, and they all paid the price. There is no evidence they were "experienced hikers" in the sense of having enough experience to know when NOT to go.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the mom wasn’t in the best of health. Her insta says she left a tech job 3 years ago after being diagnosed with a “debilitating health condition.” That combined with the heat could have felled her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is tragic, but given what I've read, I think overconfident tech bro and his 'cool girl' partner weren't going to be THOSE parents stuck inside when baby came, and they all paid the price. There is no evidence they were "experienced hikers" in the sense of having enough experience to know when NOT to go.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is tragic, but given what I've read, I think overconfident tech bro and his 'cool girl' partner weren't going to be THOSE parents stuck inside when baby came, and they all paid the price. There is no evidence they were "experienced hikers" in the sense of having enough experience to know when NOT to go.

Jesus, are you the nutter from that other thread who won’t stop harping about “cool girls”? Give it a f-ing rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still say FA because:

1. Not novice hikers. Their alltrails are extensive and they liked hiking.

2. They lived close by and reportedly did hikes most weekends. They knew of the fire in 2018.

3. He researched this trail or nearby trails before heading out.

4. It was extremely hot not here that came from nowhere. Alltrails shows you the weather of the trail you want to take. No experienced hiker only looks at the weather of when you start your hike.

5. This is my main thing- finding them all close together/on trail. Heat exhaustion includes delirium. InIf you know about the symptoms or read about heat stroke the chances of both of them not wandering off the trail or being found close together just seems unlikely.

The mother wasn't close. She was found further along the trail. Either wandering in delirium, running away from poisoning, or going to get help. The baby wasn't going to wander off.

She was 30 yards away. That is 90 feet. Not far at all.

[Anonymous]

We don't what time they left for the hike, right? Maybe they left at 6AM when the weather was okay, thinking they'd be back by 9.

[Anonymous]

This is the weirdest thread. Like I love a good mystery/true crime thread but usually there is some evidence to go off of and some decent theories. This thread is just 100% speculation and weird victim-blaming. For 70 pages. Damn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don't what time they left for the hike, right? Maybe they left at 6AM when the weather was okay, thinking they'd be back by 9.

I think they were spotted heading toward the trail at 7:45am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don't what time they left for the hike, right? Maybe they left at 6AM when the weather was okay, thinking they'd be back by 9.

I think they were spotted heading toward the trail at 7:45am.

So maybe they just planned to be out for 3ish hours and thought they'd be back before the weather got too bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was Googling to see if there was an update and came across Jonathan’s profile on All Trails. It says he’s completed the Hites Cove trail before.
https://www.alltrails.com/members/jonathan-gerrish/completed

That’s interesting. As I review his profile, I get the impression that he is familiar with that area. He completed the Hites Cove Trail four years ago. So if he’s been hiking this area for quite a while, it might have given him a false sense of security that it was okay to take his family out there.

Hites Cove Trail is described as out and back on the same trail. Looks like he decided to go along the river and come up the switchback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still say FA because:

1. Not novice hikers. Their alltrails are extensive and they liked hiking.

2. They lived close by and reportedly did hikes most weekends. They knew of the fire in 2018.

3. He researched this trail or nearby trails before heading out.

4. It was extremely hot not here that came from nowhere. Alltrails shows you the weather of the trail you want to take. No experienced hiker only looks at the weather of when you start your hike.

5. This is my main thing- finding them all close together/on trail. Heat exhaustion includes delirium. InIf you know about the symptoms or read about heat stroke the chances of both of them not wandering off the trail or being found close together just seems unlikely.

The mother wasn't close. She was found further along the trail. Either wandering in delirium, running away from poisoning, or going to get help. The baby wasn't going to wander off.

She was 30 yards away. That is 90 feet. Not far at all.

I wouldn't call it close.