Joe is out

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this totally steals Trump's thunder and will be the focus of the news until the DNC convention. Totally ruins their strategy to date. And now the Democratic nominee can distance themselves from whatever unpopular policies there have been under Joe.

um no, they have come out swinging tying Harris to Biden, especially regarding the border mess.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4784658-trump-campaign-attacks-harris/

The number of migrants unlawfully crossing the U.S. southern border has continued to drop markedly in July, nearing a threshold that would require officials to lift a partial ban on asylum claims enacted by President Biden, according to internal government data obtained by CBS News.

July is on track to see the fifth consecutive monthly drop in migrant apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border and the lowest level in illegal immigration there since the fall of 2020, during the Trump administration, the internal Department of Homeland Security figures show.

In early June, President Biden invoked a far-reaching presidential authority to suspend the entry of most migrants entering the U.S. illegally, effectively shutting off access to the American asylum system outside of official ports of entry.

Illegal border crossings — which were already falling before Mr. Biden's action — plunged further after the order took effect, reaching a three-year low in June.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/migrant-crossings-plunge-near-level-lift-biden-border-crackdown/

Try harder.

Why are you Dems so dumb.

I despise Trump to the last molecule of my being.

But, they've done a good job tying the border mess to Harris, and you cannot erase 3 years of the mess at the border in 3 months, especially when the MAGA camp will be pushing this message 24/7.

I think you Dems are stupid smart - there's a lot of educated brain power there, but you don't know how to read the room.

Ok, where do you stand on Trump tanking the bi-partisan border bill that was set to pass?

Of course I blame him. But that's not the point.

Voters care about the economy. MAGA have tied the border mess, illegal immigrants flooding MI, NY, IL etc.. getting shelter and food at the expense of taxpayers, to Biden/Harris. Voters are having to deal with inflation, high housing costs, etc.. and to see illegal immigrants getting housing and food allowances makes them upset.
Heck even the leaders of Chicago and NYC are saying enough illegal immigrants.

Three years of this mess won't be wiped out in three months in the minds of the public.

I honestly don't understand how you Dems don't understand basic human nature.

Human nature is also optics. Old, sweaty, rambling dude vs. younger, strong, coherent woman. No brainer.

vance is there to balance that out

Vance himself said Trump was "America's Hitler" and the Dems have plenty of ammunition for ripping him to pieces.

And Kamala called Biden a racist on numerous occasions. How did that work out for her?

Top of the ticket in four years?

+1 how did Vance calling Trump a Nazi dictator work out for him?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jd-vance-once-compared-trump-hitler-now-they-are-running-mates-2024-07-15/

Publicly, he called the Republican presidential candidate an "idiot" and said he was "reprehensible." Privately, he compared him to Adolf Hitler.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats just need to start bringing up all the “Leopards Ate My Face” stories coming from GOP women after the overturn of Roe.

Kind of seems like what we’re seeing right now from Democrats - and for the past few weeks - is a perfect example of the Leopards Ate My Face.

How so?

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Anonymous wrote:Asking this in good faith:
I read that some of his own senior aides knew nothing about this until they read it on Twitter. Do any of you think it is at all odd that they are not releasing a video? Does Joe even know about this? Does he actually have Covid? Will we see him in public again?
I honestly am wondering if he has suffered a stroke.

And you are basing that on pure speculation??!!

How long have you subscribed to paranoid conspiracy theories?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this totally steals Trump's thunder and will be the focus of the news until the DNC convention. Totally ruins their strategy to date. And now the Democratic nominee can distance themselves from whatever unpopular policies there have been under Joe.

um no, they have come out swinging tying Harris to Biden, especially regarding the border mess.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4784658-trump-campaign-attacks-harris/

The number of migrants unlawfully crossing the U.S. southern border has continued to drop markedly in July, nearing a threshold that would require officials to lift a partial ban on asylum claims enacted by President Biden, according to internal government data obtained by CBS News.

July is on track to see the fifth consecutive monthly drop in migrant apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border and the lowest level in illegal immigration there since the fall of 2020, during the Trump administration, the internal Department of Homeland Security figures show.

In early June, President Biden invoked a far-reaching presidential authority to suspend the entry of most migrants entering the U.S. illegally, effectively shutting off access to the American asylum system outside of official ports of entry.

Illegal border crossings — which were already falling before Mr. Biden's action — plunged further after the order took effect, reaching a three-year low in June.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/migrant-crossings-plunge-near-level-lift-biden-border-crackdown/

Try harder.

Why are you Dems so dumb.

I despise Trump to the last molecule of my being.

But, they've done a good job tying the border mess to Harris, and you cannot erase 3 years of the mess at the border in 3 months, especially when the MAGA camp will be pushing this message 24/7.

I think you Dems are stupid smart - there's a lot of educated brain power there, but you don't know how to read the room.

Ok, where do you stand on Trump tanking the bi-partisan border bill that was set to pass?

Of course I blame him. But that's not the point.

Voters care about the economy. MAGA have tied the border mess, illegal immigrants flooding MI, NY, IL etc.. getting shelter and food at the expense of taxpayers, to Biden/Harris. Voters are having to deal with inflation, high housing costs, etc.. and to see illegal immigrants getting housing and food allowances makes them upset.
Heck even the leaders of Chicago and NYC are saying enough illegal immigrants.

Three years of this mess won't be wiped out in three months in the minds of the public.

I honestly don't understand how you Dems don't understand basic human nature.

Because you’re high on your own supply.

If this is your only response, then it's no wonder that Trump was on the verge of winning 2024.

“WAS” as you said yourself. LOL!

Yes "was", so don't f* it up with your "Harris won't be blamed for the border mess" idiocy.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Bidden say that he would only get out of the race if either Gid Almighty came down and told him to or if his doctors told him there was a medical necessity.
So, does this mean that he is medically unfit to run? Wouldn't that Also mean that he is medically unfit to be President?
Just using some logic.
Unless there was a parting of the heavens that CNN didn't report.

Gid Almighty? Bidden? Lol

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Anonymous wrote:Kamala has a string te it’s of prosecuting men who abused women.

Trump has been found liable for rape in civil court (and was accused of rape by his first wife).

He also invited a wife beater to speak at the Republican convention.

Hmmm 😄 I wonder who women will prefer??

Women prefer a kitty cat and a bowl of ice cream.

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Anonymous wrote:A PP said people wouldn't vote for Kamala because she's never had children. What?? That's ridiculous.

Ohhhh no it's not - not in evangelical circles. And I don't think Trump surrogates will be able to stay away from the issue. Trump/MAGA already have a problem with women. This is not going to help. Can you imagine Donald Trump choking out the words that's it's perfectly fine for women to make the choice not to have children. Not to mention the evangelical reaction to that. Very rock and a hard place position here.

? Evangelicals wouldn't vote for a Dem anyways, so moot point.

Not a moot point. Trump has a problem with women. If you have Trump surrogates out there attacking Kamala Harris for being childfree you aren't turning out women who don't want to vote Dem but are on the fence for the GOP. And if the GOP/Trump try to distance themselves from this POV you start losing the evangelicals. Trump has already made the hard line abortion folks angry.

By and large this election isn't about winning large swaths of voters over. It's about maintaining your 2020 support and undermining the support for your opponent.

DP. ONE person in an anonymous forum made the comment about Harris and children. Could you possibly be overreacting (as usual)?

This thread is 70 pages long since it was started a few hours ago. If you think it's that irrelevant just move on.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the over under on Trump refusing to debate now?

Harris should immediately agree to the normal three-debate schedule from the Commission on Presidential Debates.

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Anonymous wrote:Kamala has a string te it’s of prosecuting men who abused women.

Trump has been found liable for rape in civil court (and was accused of rape by his first wife).

He also invited a wife beater to speak at the Republican convention.

Hmmm 😄 I wonder who women will prefer??

Women prefer a kitty cat and a bowl of ice cream.

And Mark Kelly as VP.

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Just wanted to remind everybody who was calling for Joe to step down that this was what was going to happen. You have to follow the chain of command .

And it's not like ant actually had a viable alternative to Biden or Harris. They just wanted Biden gone.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this totally steals Trump's thunder and will be the focus of the news until the DNC convention. Totally ruins their strategy to date. And now the Democratic nominee can distance themselves from whatever unpopular policies there have been under Joe.

um no, they have come out swinging tying Harris to Biden, especially regarding the border mess.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4784658-trump-campaign-attacks-harris/

The number of migrants unlawfully crossing the U.S. southern border has continued to drop markedly in July, nearing a threshold that would require officials to lift a partial ban on asylum claims enacted by President Biden, according to internal government data obtained by CBS News.

July is on track to see the fifth consecutive monthly drop in migrant apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border and the lowest level in illegal immigration there since the fall of 2020, during the Trump administration, the internal Department of Homeland Security figures show.

In early June, President Biden invoked a far-reaching presidential authority to suspend the entry of most migrants entering the U.S. illegally, effectively shutting off access to the American asylum system outside of official ports of entry.

Illegal border crossings — which were already falling before Mr. Biden's action — plunged further after the order took effect, reaching a three-year low in June.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/migrant-crossings-plunge-near-level-lift-biden-border-crackdown/

Try harder.

Why are you Dems so dumb.

I despise Trump to the last molecule of my being.

But, they've done a good job tying the border mess to Harris, and you cannot erase 3 years of the mess at the border in 3 months, especially when the MAGA camp will be pushing this message 24/7.

I think you Dems are stupid smart - there's a lot of educated brain power there, but you don't know how to read the room.

Ok, where do you stand on Trump tanking the bi-partisan border bill that was set to pass?

Of course I blame him. But that's not the point.

Voters care about the economy. MAGA have tied the border mess, illegal immigrants flooding MI, NY, IL etc.. getting shelter and food at the expense of taxpayers, to Biden/Harris. Voters are having to deal with inflation, high housing costs, etc.. and to see illegal immigrants getting housing and food allowances makes them upset.
Heck even the leaders of Chicago and NYC are saying enough illegal immigrants.

Three years of this mess won't be wiped out in three months in the minds of the public.

I honestly don't understand how you Dems don't understand basic human nature.

Because you’re high on your own supply.

If this is your only response, then it's no wonder that Trump was on the verge of winning 2024.

“Was”.

Yes "was", but we have 2.5 more months to go, so try not to f* it up with your "Because you’re high on your own supply" response when people raise concerns about Harris and the border mess she was responsible for. That will be her achilles' heel. Dems need to get front and center of that weakness.

Not to mentioned Harris lied to voters about Biden's health and cognition for weeks now. The GOP needs to run ads about that morning, noon and night.

What was she supposed to say??! She knew she had to follow the chain of command

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Anonymous wrote:Dems=all smoke and mirrors

Who was the wizard behind the curtain all these years? Obama?

Joe needs to resign today!

I would gladly support a law saying that the President must be at least 35 and less than 77 years old.

So, Biden would have to resign.

And old Donald Trump would have to withdraw his candidacy.

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Anonymous wrote:Asking this in good faith:
I read that some of his own senior aides knew nothing about this until they read it on Twitter. Do any of you think it is at all odd that they are not releasing a video? Does Joe even know about this? Does he actually have Covid? Will we see him in public again?
I honestly am wondering if he has suffered a stroke.

And you are basing that on pure speculation??!!

How long have you subscribed to paranoid conspiracy theories?

I am basing that on the fact that he was ADAMANT he was not stepping down unless "GOD ALMIGHTY" told him to, then he gets hidden away at Rehoboth and we get a tweet that oh yes, he's stepping down. What changed?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, this totally steals Trump's thunder and will be the focus of the news until the DNC convention. Totally ruins their strategy to date. And now the Democratic nominee can distance themselves from whatever unpopular policies there have been under Joe.

um no, they have come out swinging tying Harris to Biden, especially regarding the border mess.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4784658-trump-campaign-attacks-harris/

The number of migrants unlawfully crossing the U.S. southern border has continued to drop markedly in July, nearing a threshold that would require officials to lift a partial ban on asylum claims enacted by President Biden, according to internal government data obtained by CBS News.

July is on track to see the fifth consecutive monthly drop in migrant apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border and the lowest level in illegal immigration there since the fall of 2020, during the Trump administration, the internal Department of Homeland Security figures show.

In early June, President Biden invoked a far-reaching presidential authority to suspend the entry of most migrants entering the U.S. illegally, effectively shutting off access to the American asylum system outside of official ports of entry.

Illegal border crossings — which were already falling before Mr. Biden's action — plunged further after the order took effect, reaching a three-year low in June.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/migrant-crossings-plunge-near-level-lift-biden-border-crackdown/

Try harder.

Why are you Dems so dumb.

I despise Trump to the last molecule of my being.

But, they've done a good job tying the border mess to Harris, and you cannot erase 3 years of the mess at the border in 3 months, especially when the MAGA camp will be pushing this message 24/7.

I think you Dems are stupid smart - there's a lot of educated brain power there, but you don't know how to read the room.

Ok, where do you stand on Trump tanking the bi-partisan border bill that was set to pass?

Of course I blame him. But that's not the point.

Voters care about the economy. MAGA have tied the border mess, illegal immigrants flooding MI, NY, IL etc.. getting shelter and food at the expense of taxpayers, to Biden/Harris. Voters are having to deal with inflation, high housing costs, etc.. and to see illegal immigrants getting housing and food allowances makes them upset.
Heck even the leaders of Chicago and NYC are saying enough illegal immigrants.

Three years of this mess won't be wiped out in three months in the minds of the public.

I honestly don't understand how you Dems don't understand basic human nature.

Because you’re high on your own supply.

If this is your only response, then it's no wonder that Trump was on the verge of winning 2024.

“Was”.

Yes "was", but we have 2.5 more months to go, so try not to f* it up with your "Because you’re high on your own supply" response when people raise concerns about Harris and the border mess she was responsible for. That will be her achilles' heel. Dems need to get front and center of that weakness.

Not to mentioned Harris lied to voters about Biden's health and cognition for weeks now. The GOP needs to run ads about that morning, noon and night.

What was she supposed to say??! She knew she had to follow the chain of command

She wasn't lying. It's called buying time. She's the VP and default candidate. She has to go with the highest leader, her boss until he says otherwise. He has endorsed her now, so obviously she played it right.