Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, when I wrote back to complain that no one had replied to my email within the promised 5 business days, I got another auto-response saying they would reply within 12 business days🙄🙄🤔

Its amazing that FCPS can hire all these private contractors to help clean up their mess (forensic computer people. a law firm., Experian) but they can't have one FCPS employee available to provide information to families.

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Repeat this for the people in the back

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS should be held accountable for their carelessness.

And Callie should also be held accountable for violating privacy of thousands of families.

And on page 65 of this thread, this statement sums it all up neatly. You can hand wave all you want (and that's been done REPEATEDLY over the past 65 pages) but this still holds true.

Exactly. 65 pages of back and forth. If you can find an attorney who will take your case, do it. What I’m seeing is a lot of people who I suspect already contacted an attorney and were told they don’t have a case who keep coming back here and “hand waving” hoping they can get some satisfaction for their misplaced anger.

People can be angry at multiple things.

FCPS? Of course.

Callie? She is 100% responsible for her own actions. Anger towards her is not misplaced.

It’s misplaced because nobody’s mad at the dozens of other parents who sifted through all the data that wasn’t about their kid to find the data about their kid and is likely sitting in an insecure manner on a desktop or server because they don’t have a defined disposal process or a strong security protocol because they are a person and not an organization, unlike Callie, who is a 501c3 and has a destruction protocol. I’m more upset that it’s sitting insecure on many people’s personal computers where one click on a malware link can put everything for sale on the dark web.

1. Callie is not a 501c3. She is the President of a Virginia Nonstock Corporation. The corporation is a separate legal entity from Callie.

2. As far as I can tell, Callie submitted the FOIA in her personal name, and was not acting in her capacity as Officer or Director of Special Education Action Inc. when she took the privileged data from FCPS and transferred it to SEA Inc. So Callie is legally exposed twice for her actions: once in her individual capacity and once in her capacity as Officer and Director of Special Education Action Inc.. The Directors of Special Education Action Inc. also have possible legal exposure if they failed their oversight duties as Directors. Hopefully Callie got them D&O insurance (but I somehow doubt it).

3. Non-profits don’t have “a destruction protocol” unless they are the Terminator. Most non-profits have “document retention policy”, but this is typically not a legal requirement. Nothing prevents the President of a non-profit to put stuff on the dark web, especially if her Board of Directors does not provide serious oversight.

4. The IRS DOES require non-profits to have a Conflict of Interest policy. For instance, using your official position in a non-profit to pursue a personal vendetta against FCPS (or pursue a specific political agenda) would be a potential COI. Failure to have or enforce your COI can result in a 501c3 losing tax-exempt status.

5. Callie (and the I-am-not-Callies that are on the Board of Directors or serve as Officers) were clearly not well-served by Legalzoom as they failed to register with the VDACS Office of Charitable and Regulatory Programs (https://cos.vdacs.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/char_search.cgi). Until they do, Special Education Action Inc. is not allowed to solicit donations in the Commonwealth of Virginia and is subject to considerable penalties.

If Callie and the I-am-not-Callies can’t properly run their own lemonade stand in a legal manner, they probably should stop making inaccurate statements on this forum and be a lot more respectful of the public servants who are doing their best to serve the community.

Thank you! Since you are knowledgeable, can you help lead a group and an attorney to take any kind of legal action against Callie? Or to further publicize her non-profits non-compliance so she’ll face legal consequences? Even if her actions with FCPS aren’t illegal, they are immoral, unethical and she (and her advocacy group/followers) are appalling. Many would support any actions that bring her (and her associates) down.

[Anonymous]

Okay, as a non-FCPS parent, can someone explain all of this in a nutshell? I'm extremely confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, as a non-FCPS parent, can someone explain all of this in a nutshell? I'm extremely confused.

A person who has a non profit for special needs students rights did a foia request to fcps, they released a bunch of files to her. Fcps may have done this by accident but technically and legally they released it to her under her foia. The lady in question uses the data for analysis and statistics on fcps sped failures and concerns.

[Anonymous]

Hahahahahahaha. (Takes breath) HAHAHAHAHAHAA.

you have to be kidding me. Callie’s watchful eye went through all of the data to directly contact parents she knew and then to “redact” some of the data posted online. Her watchful eye is literally reading stuff she has no business reading.

I don’t care if it was legally hers when she obtained it. She crossed a bright line and she had zero business doing so.

Anonymous wrote:My haiku:
Callie's watchful eye,
Shielding students from all harm,
Safety blooms with her.

[Anonymous]

Why did she publish the info?

To make people mad at FCPS? For the lack of security of the data? Or something about how special ed is being handled, that can be gleaned from the data?

What harm could come of the data being released, of names are redacted? Does the data show some type of discrimination, or some other big problems?

Why can't people let it go?

I've read a lot of this thread (and have no stake in the matter) but these are still questions that come to mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, as a non-FCPS parent, can someone explain all of this in a nutshell? I'm extremely confused.

A person who has a non profit for special needs students rights did a foia request to fcps, they released a bunch of files to her. Fcps may have done this by accident but technically and legally they released it to her under her foia. The lady in question uses the data for analysis and statistics on fcps sped failures and concerns.

All of that without parents’ consent.

And she distributed it to others, including a conservative think tank.

And she published semi-redacted portions on her website, some families are identifiable via details provided.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS only let parents know about the data issue because they were forced too. They haven’t said who else got this data and why there is a spreadsheet circulating when there is a system that holds this info.

I am certain they don’t reach out to parents when they send their child’s IEP to a different family. I reached out to a family when I got their child’s highly confidential information and they never heard from FCPS about it

Exactly. Dozens of people have come forward saying the same thing happened to them. One reported they got info on Callie’s child. It was never reported because it was swept under the rug. Just because it didn’t end up with Goldwater doesn’t mean it’s securely stored. One click on a bad link, it’s on the dark web for sale.

Could you possibly be any more irrationally dramatic? For sale on the dark web? Let me guess, you believe young blonde children are being stolen every week away from their suburban homes and trafficked.

Dramatic? Data like this is so prevalent it sells for less than a dollar on the dark web. $8 for a full child’s identify. We’re not living in the 80s anymore. Google child fullz.

Now you're saying she put full information about the children's identities out there? Am I correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS should be held accountable for their carelessness.

And Callie should also be held accountable for violating privacy of thousands of families.

And on page 65 of this thread, this statement sums it all up neatly. You can hand wave all you want (and that's been done REPEATEDLY over the past 65 pages) but this still holds true.

Exactly. 65 pages of back and forth. If you can find an attorney who will take your case, do it. What I’m seeing is a lot of people who I suspect already contacted an attorney and were told they don’t have a case who keep coming back here and “hand waving” hoping they can get some satisfaction for their misplaced anger.

People can be angry at multiple things.

FCPS? Of course.

Callie? She is 100% responsible for her own actions. Anger towards her is not misplaced.

It’s misplaced because nobody’s mad at the dozens of other parents who sifted through all the data that wasn’t about their kid to find the data about their kid and is likely sitting in an insecure manner on a desktop or server because they don’t have a defined disposal process or a strong security protocol because they are a person and not an organization, unlike Callie, who is a 501c3 and has a destruction protocol. I’m more upset that it’s sitting insecure on many people’s personal computers where one click on a malware link can put everything for sale on the dark web.

1. Callie is not a 501c3. She is the President of a Virginia Nonstock Corporation. The corporation is a separate legal entity from Callie.

2. As far as I can tell, Callie submitted the FOIA in her personal name, and was not acting in her capacity as Officer or Director of Special Education Action Inc. when she took the privileged data from FCPS and transferred it to SEA Inc. So Callie is legally exposed twice for her actions: once in her individual capacity and once in her capacity as Officer and Director of Special Education Action Inc.. The Directors of Special Education Action Inc. also have possible legal exposure if they failed their oversight duties as Directors. Hopefully Callie got them D&O insurance (but I somehow doubt it).

3. Non-profits don’t have “a destruction protocol” unless they are the Terminator. Most non-profits have “document retention policy”, but this is typically not a legal requirement. Nothing prevents the President of a non-profit to put stuff on the dark web, especially if her Board of Directors does not provide serious oversight.

4. The IRS DOES require non-profits to have a Conflict of Interest policy. For instance, using your official position in a non-profit to pursue a personal vendetta against FCPS (or pursue a specific political agenda) would be a potential COI. Failure to have or enforce your COI can result in a 501c3 losing tax-exempt status.

5. Callie (and the I-am-not-Callies that are on the Board of Directors or serve as Officers) were clearly not well-served by Legalzoom as they failed to register with the VDACS Office of Charitable and Regulatory Programs (https://cos.vdacs.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/char_search.cgi). Until they do, Special Education Action Inc. is not allowed to solicit donations in the Commonwealth of Virginia and is subject to considerable penalties.

If Callie and the I-am-not-Callies can’t properly run their own lemonade stand in a legal manner, they probably should stop making inaccurate statements on this forum and be a lot more respectful of the public servants who are doing their best to serve the community.

Keep trying.

[Anonymous]

Can the people on here that voted for these members of FCPS schoolboard post their name so they can be sued? You voted for this group of people!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing this FCPS link. I had not seen it. The fact that this was an " unusual review" says a lot. FCPS found the problem, which " occurred because older thumb drives containing unredacted files pulled to respond to the parent’s prior FERPA requests were unintentionally and unknowingly left within boxes accessible to the parent during her in‑person review." I guess the parent has had many FOIA requestions. Even though the parent knew our children's information was private and confidential, they " copied the files and removed them from FCPS property." How is this ok?

Callie made a data request.
FCPS responded by giving her a box of data, thumb drives, etc.
Callie made a valid request - it is FCPS as the Custodian of the Data who is responsible for giving the correct data out.
So, it is reasonable for Callie to expect this is the data that pertained to her request.

Is FCPS seriously that lazy? I have been a provider of many FOIA requests. The process is simple:
1. Define the scope
2. Gather the minimum materials to respond
3. Peer review of materials
4. Legal review of material
Its simple.

[Anonymous]

Omg- the republicans running for school board were WORSE. Do you think things would be different with that crew of nutters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg- the republicans running for school board were WORSE. Do you think things would be different with that crew of nutters?

Yes it would have been different. If you keep doing what you always did, you can expect the same results.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg- the republicans running for school board were WORSE. Do you think things would be different with that crew of nutters?

Yes it would have been different. If you keep doing what you always did, you can expect the same results.

It would be different. They’d be much worse - more chaos and more difficult to get things done. Please refer to the Republicans in Congress.

Bringing in a gun nut, 1/6 insurrectionist, or
anti-LGBTQ candidate would not have helped our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg- the republicans running for school board were WORSE. Do you think things would be different with that crew of nutters?

Yes it would have been different. If you keep doing what you always did, you can expect the same results.

It would be different. They’d be much worse - more chaos and more difficult to get things done. Please refer to the Republicans in Congress.

Bringing in a gun nut, 1/6 insurrectionist, or
anti-LGBTQ candidate would not have helped our kids.

Can you just admit you voted for this cast of people, and own the outcomes? If you did, then you participated in this data breach.