Republicans and the debt ceiling

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Anonymous wrote:For the folks on the right, ask yourself, who benefits if the US Economy crashes. Who benefits if the Dollar is degraded?

Answer: China and Russia

So...why is the GOP hell bent on tanking the economy for basically no reason, to benefit China and Russia?

Or Biden is bent on destroying the economy to push his ideology.

He isn't pushing ideology. He is obligated to honor the faith and credit of the united states of america. Much of the debt was created by GOP tax cuts. Restore the levels of taxation and the problem is solved too. But you aren't willing.

He certainly IS pushing an ideology. Every damn day. And it's a very unamerican one.

Why does the party that can't ever win a majority of votes telling the party that almost always wins the support of the majority of Americans what is and isn't American

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Anonymous wrote:For the folks on the right, ask yourself, who benefits if the US Economy crashes. Who benefits if the Dollar is degraded?

Answer: China and Russia

So...why is the GOP hell bent on tanking the economy for basically no reason, to benefit China and Russia?

Or Biden is bent on destroying the economy to push his ideology.

He isn't pushing ideology. He is obligated to honor the faith and credit of the united states of america. Much of the debt was created by GOP tax cuts. Restore the levels of taxation and the problem is solved too. But you aren't willing.

Get off here with your facts and sensible thinking. It isn’t in fashion for all the right wingers populating this board.

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Much of the debt was created by GOP tax cuts

Then, why did revenue increase as a result?

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

I know what govt is all about. There's a website with "mission statements" and then there's reality.

Reality is govt is about paper pushing, unbelievable bureaucracy, ridicuous layers of management and busy work.

Reality is, there are hundreds of thousands of Federal employees, Park Service, Food inspectors Postal workers etc spread across the country working hard on behalf of the American public. Your ignorance is a tell.

Reality is you could cut the federal workforce by 60% and no one would miss it.

I guess you don't like going to national parks or riding on safe planes or taking medicines that meet quality control standards.

I could go on and on, but there is not cure for blindness.

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't negotiating.

It's the Washington Post. Get real.

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Anonymous wrote:Government has a spending problem not a revenue problem. I could cut 25 percent of the federal govt workforce and it wouldn’t make a difference to most Americans. Just a jobs program. So much wasteful spending.

You're wrong. Every billionaire is a policy failure. Every one of them would have contributed the same amount in exchange for $500 million -- meaning we left half a billion dollars on the table that could have gone to something productive.

Ummm....as of 2020, the top 10 percent of earners paid 74 percent of all income taxes. The top 25 percent of earners paid 89 percent of income taxes and the top 50 percent of earners paid 97.7 percent of all income taxes. Most billionaires (not counting those who inherited it) took risk and founded companies that grew and now employ thousands of people who also pay taxes. The device you are typing on is a result of capitalists, innovators, and risk takers.....personality traits that socialism inevitably destroys. Socialism fails to take into account human nature -- why should I work hard, risk capital, take chances, innovate if I can't reap the rewards.

Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

I know what govt is all about. There's a website with "mission statements" and then there's reality.

Reality is govt is about paper pushing, unbelievable bureaucracy, ridicuous layers of management and busy work.

Reality is, there are hundreds of thousands of Federal employees, Park Service, Food inspectors Postal workers etc spread across the country working hard on behalf of the American public. Your ignorance is a tell.

Reality is you could cut the federal workforce by 60% and no one would miss it.

I guess you don't like going to national parks or riding on safe planes or taking medicines that meet quality control standards.

I could go on and on, but there is not cure for blindness.

I seem to remember Biden telling us he would cure cancer if elected. Ridiculous.

Meanwhile, we got statements from Biden stating Trump should resign because Covid deaths crossed the 250K mark. When it crossed the million mark with Biden, silence.

The bureaucracy needs the national parks. The parks don't need the bureaucracy.

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Anonymous wrote:Government has a spending problem not a revenue problem. I could cut 25 percent of the federal govt workforce and it wouldn’t make a difference to most Americans. Just a jobs program. So much wasteful spending.

You're wrong. Every billionaire is a policy failure. Every one of them would have contributed the same amount in exchange for $500 million -- meaning we left half a billion dollars on the table that could have gone to something productive.

Ummm....as of 2020, the top 10 percent of earners paid 74 percent of all income taxes. The top 25 percent of earners paid 89 percent of income taxes and the top 50 percent of earners paid 97.7 percent of all income taxes. Most billionaires (not counting those who inherited it) took risk and founded companies that grew and now employ thousands of people who also pay taxes. The device you are typing on is a result of capitalists, innovators, and risk takers.....personality traits that socialism inevitably destroys. Socialism fails to take into account human nature -- why should I work hard, risk capital, take chances, innovate if I can't reap the rewards.

Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.

This will anger the echo chamber.

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Anonymous wrote:Government has a spending problem not a revenue problem. I could cut 25 percent of the federal govt workforce and it wouldn’t make a difference to most Americans. Just a jobs program. So much wasteful spending.

You know nothing. Cutting federal personnel almost always increases costs. Most waste and misuse of federal funds is committed by state and local governments, contractors, and grantees, in large part because there is just enough federal staff to distribute funds but not to perform adequate management and oversight. Also, almost all the waste is in the most popular departments and programs that have bipartisan support because no one dares challenge to money going to a popular cause. Tax credits and deductions are the most wasteful thing the government does because almost all the tax breaks subsidize the baseline actions that would have happened anyway without the tax breaks. Studies continually document this but no one cares because tax incentives are politically popular.

Sorry but you are just plain wrong. I used to work for the federal government. I saw so much waste it bothered me as a taxpayer. An inefficient bureaucracy with so many people in GS-13/14/15 and SES positions who are in do-nothing jobs that just create more roadblocks to efficiency. Wasteful and unneeded travel (boondoggles) was rampant. I could cut a quarter of the personnel working in the Pentagon and it wouldn't make a difference to the Marine, Soldier, Sailor, or Airman on the pointy end of the spear.

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Anonymous wrote:For the folks on the right, ask yourself, who benefits if the US Economy crashes. Who benefits if the Dollar is degraded?

Answer: China and Russia

So...why is the GOP hell bent on tanking the economy for basically no reason, to benefit China and Russia?

Or Biden is bent on destroying the economy to push his ideology.

His ideology? Lol if the radical republicans force a default Kevin will lose the speakership, 10-15 republicans house members will switch parties and Jeffries will be running the house. All the dems have to do is call your bluff.

Oh OK.

It's surreal.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he has taken 90% of spending off the table and is leaving things like funding police and teachers, maintaining roads, food safety inspections and VA hospitals.

What food safety inspections? No one is inspecting food. They're in their office all day surfing the internet, shuffling paper and sending emails to each other about ESG and DEI. You know I'm correct, even if you don't want to admit it.

Huh? This really exposes the ignorance of the right. Yes, there are over 9,000 USDA food inspectors who review the processing of our animals like cows, pigs and chickens, as well as facilities that package things like spinach, lettuce, grapefruits, stawberries etc on a daily basis to ensure what we are getting the the market is safe and clean.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/

Do you really not know this?

I know what govt is all about. There's a website with "mission statements" and then there's reality.

Reality is govt is about paper pushing, unbelievable bureaucracy, ridicuous layers of management and busy work.

Reality is, there are hundreds of thousands of Federal employees, Park Service, Food inspectors Postal workers etc spread across the country working hard on behalf of the American public. Your ignorance is a tell.

Reality is you could cut the federal workforce by 60% and no one would miss it.

I guess you don't like going to national parks or riding on safe planes or taking medicines that meet quality control standards.

I could go on and on, but there is not cure for blindness.

I seem to remember Biden telling us he would cure cancer if elected. Ridiculous.

Meanwhile, we got statements from Biden stating Trump should resign because Covid deaths crossed the 250K mark. When it crossed the million mark with Biden, silence.

The bureaucracy needs the national parks. The parks don't need the bureaucracy.

Not true - remember when Trump was ready to start mining and drilling them for oil and gas?

Parks need protection, careful maintenance to reduce tree diseases as much as possible, and maintenance of public hygiene facilities and trash …

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Government has a spending problem not a revenue problem. I could cut 25 percent of the federal govt workforce and it wouldn’t make a difference to most Americans. Just a jobs program. So much wasteful spending.

You're wrong. Every billionaire is a policy failure. Every one of them would have contributed the same amount in exchange for $500 million -- meaning we left half a billion dollars on the table that could have gone to something productive.

Ummm....as of 2020, the top 10 percent of earners paid 74 percent of all income taxes. The top 25 percent of earners paid 89 percent of income taxes and the top 50 percent of earners paid 97.7 percent of all income taxes. Most billionaires (not counting those who inherited it) took risk and founded companies that grew and now employ thousands of people who also pay taxes. The device you are typing on is a result of capitalists, innovators, and risk takers.....personality traits that socialism inevitably destroys. Socialism fails to take into account human nature -- why should I work hard, risk capital, take chances, innovate if I can't reap the rewards.

Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.

This will anger the echo chamber.

No kidding. Reading the comments on this board is depressing. I can't believe many posters are advocating for socialism. Capitalism may have it flaws but I'll take it any day over what Democrats are driving this country toward. Capitalism, entrepreneurialism, free enterprise, and an abundance of natural resources is what made the United States the economic power that it is today. The government needs to get out of the way. Democrats are destroying it.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is McCarthy doesn’t have the votes to broker a deal with Biden and save his Speakership. GOP is going to take the country over the fiscal cliff and blame the White House. And since Biden has long lost his ability to think clearly and speak coherently, the GOP may actually pull it off.

Or, if Biden refuses to negotiate and make meaningful concessions, we will go over the fiscal cliff. That's the way i see it.

What meaningful concessions is McCarthy offering?

He's taken everything except discretionary spending off the table for starters.

How about we go back to the spending budget of 2018? He isn't even pushing that hard.

So he’s offered nothing then?

That is the offer.

There's a 1.5T spending cut bill on the table. If you don't like it, don't agree to it.

Don't care. Let's Thelma and Louise this.

So McCarthy is just threatening to crash the economy and hurt tens of millions of Americans unless he gets what he wants, and he won’t give up a single thing to get it. Got it.

Kinda sounds like Biden has the same position.

Wait until interest on the debt can't be paid. That will hurt America too. You seem to have no concept of reasonable government spending and want a womb to tomb welfare state. Well, the math says no.

But Congress, a duly elected representative body, already debated and decided on what programs expenses to keep. The time to debate the costs of government is during the budget negotiations--not now.

You mean like using covid funds to pay for housing for the migrants? I think not.

Turning the border patrol in to baby sitters? I think not.

Calling a new green deal spending bill an inflation reduction act? I think not

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Anonymous wrote:Government has a spending problem not a revenue problem. I could cut 25 percent of the federal govt workforce and it wouldn’t make a difference to most Americans. Just a jobs program. So much wasteful spending.

You're wrong. Every billionaire is a policy failure. Every one of them would have contributed the same amount in exchange for $500 million -- meaning we left half a billion dollars on the table that could have gone to something productive.

Ummm....as of 2020, the top 10 percent of earners paid 74 percent of all income taxes. The top 25 percent of earners paid 89 percent of income taxes and the top 50 percent of earners paid 97.7 percent of all income taxes. Most billionaires (not counting those who inherited it) took risk and founded companies that grew and now employ thousands of people who also pay taxes. The device you are typing on is a result of capitalists, innovators, and risk takers.....personality traits that socialism inevitably destroys. Socialism fails to take into account human nature -- why should I work hard, risk capital, take chances, innovate if I can't reap the rewards.

Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.

This will anger the echo chamber.

The earned income tax credit was a conservative darling for years. It was always seen as going hand and hand with welfare reform

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Anonymous wrote:Government has a spending problem not a revenue problem. I could cut 25 percent of the federal govt workforce and it wouldn’t make a difference to most Americans. Just a jobs program. So much wasteful spending.

You're wrong. Every billionaire is a policy failure. Every one of them would have contributed the same amount in exchange for $500 million -- meaning we left half a billion dollars on the table that could have gone to something productive.

Ummm....as of 2020, the top 10 percent of earners paid 74 percent of all income taxes. The top 25 percent of earners paid 89 percent of income taxes and the top 50 percent of earners paid 97.7 percent of all income taxes. Most billionaires (not counting those who inherited it) took risk and founded companies that grew and now employ thousands of people who also pay taxes. The device you are typing on is a result of capitalists, innovators, and risk takers.....personality traits that socialism inevitably destroys. Socialism fails to take into account human nature -- why should I work hard, risk capital, take chances, innovate if I can't reap the rewards.

Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.

This will anger the echo chamber.

No kidding. Reading the comments on this board is depressing. I can't believe many posters are advocating for socialism. Capitalism may have it flaws but I'll take it any day over what Democrats are driving this country toward. Capitalism, entrepreneurialism, free enterprise, and an abundance of natural resources is what made the United States the economic power that it is today. The government needs to get out of the way. Democrats are destroying it.

Unfettered capitalism is an awful system if you aren't on the top. The countries with the highest standards of living are those with very regulated capitalism