What the heck is going on in Belfast?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to break into the usual racially-charged picking of sides, but there are very real problems with housing being caused by the influx of immigrants.

I sincerely hope that people can look at history and figure out how to better handle migration crises in the future. Calling people racists and mud-slinging isn’t it. Hope this helps! Now, be sure to get back to your robotic responses and aforementioned mud-slinging. Quick! Pick a side!

There may be real problems but the data on the riots/protests show the following:

The CAJ report, he said, found no clear correlation between the areas where violence has flared up in Northern Ireland since 2023 and poverty rates or high immigration rates.

“When you look at the pattern of where attacks are taking place, they’re not in the most deprived areas,” Holder said. “What this points to is that attacks involve particular far-right elements, including some elements of loyalist paramilitary organisations, rather than this being tied to either migration levels or deprivation.”"
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/13/why-...-in-northern-ireland-

Are you kidding me? I know about the housing problems, and I live thousands of miles away. It doesn’t need to be happening in your yard to know it’s happening.

[Anonymous]

I’m curious about those that post statistics propagated from an authority.

What makes you believe those stats? You think they wouldn’t alter the parameters to give people the impression that things are not as bad as they seem?

Cancer clusters get covered up by official stats. Crime gets covered up by official stats.

What makes you think the entities that publish those stats that you cling to like gospel are not manipulating things?

If I were a betting person I’d wager that the frustrations that people are reacting to are based on real life experiences that get white washed because authorities don’t want the population to think that foreigners from a vastly different culture are causing problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about those that post statistics propagated from an authority.

What makes you believe those stats? You think they wouldn’t alter the parameters to give people the impression that things are not as bad as they seem?

Cancer clusters get covered up by official stats. Crime gets covered up by official stats.

What makes you think the entities that publish those stats that you cling to like gospel are not manipulating things?

If I were a betting person I’d wager that the frustrations that people are reacting to are based on real life experiences that get white washed because authorities don’t want the population to think that foreigners from a vastly different culture are causing problems.

Youre refusal to acknowledge far right infiltration in these events is something when you post about impressions/stats/white wash authorities.
Do you believe ANY stats?

[Anonymous]

We were in Belfast about a month ago. We found the local Belfast citizens to be exceptionally clannish.

It was tough for us to get a taxi driver to take us to a Protestant church on Sunday.
The driver we had told us that he normally did not drive on that side of town. He also made disparaging remarks about the union jacks that were flying at every block.

We were kind of clueless Americans but after a while figured out the situation.

I’ve never had a problem getting a taxi driver to drive us to church on Sunday any place in the world ever.

Uber is weird in Belfast too. Before we went to Belfast, I thought yay there is Uber in Belfast.
I think the Uber drivers just stay in there particular side of town. We could never get an Uber driver to show up but we could see them driving around.

Belfast has been open for tourism for the last 20 years, but there is a lot of local clannishness bubbling just below the surface.

The UK props up Belfast with a lot of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??

Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.

What’s your opinion of protests / riots in the US in 2020 regarding police brutality being stoked by Twitter, bots, and foreign governments like China and Russia?

Social media and bots are a scourge. So is the relentless killing of unarmed Black men and women. Violent protests have no place and Ill remind you that our own government stated that many of the violent protests had far-right agitators flaming the violence.

[url]https://www.counterterrorismgroup.com/post/threat-pattern-analysis-assessing-risks-of-protest-infiltrations[google]
[/url]https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110775/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20200610-SD019.pdf[url]

The common thread I can find is the far-right.

Except the supposed epidemic of killings of unarmed black men by whites has been exposed as a hoax. There are lots of black men being killed, but the inconvenient truth is that the vast majority of the killers are other black men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about those that post statistics propagated from an authority.

What makes you believe those stats? You think they wouldn’t alter the parameters to give people the impression that things are not as bad as they seem?

Cancer clusters get covered up by official stats. Crime gets covered up by official stats.

What makes you think the entities that publish those stats that you cling to like gospel are not manipulating things?

If I were a betting person I’d wager that the frustrations that people are reacting to are based on real life experiences that get white washed because authorities don’t want the population to think that foreigners from a vastly different culture are causing problems.

Youre refusal to acknowledge far right infiltration in these events is something when you post about impressions/stats/white wash authorities.
Do you believe ANY stats?

Not the PP, but you’re doing what you’re accusing this other poster of doing. You’re failing to acknowledge the other contributing factors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STOP calling these “riots.”

They are civil rights protests.

Plus, they have been mostly peaceful.

You're both either trolls or know nothing about the situation. They were NOT "mostly peaceful" OR "civil rights protests." And they were not organic but coordinated.

They involved male protestors, many masked, who:

*set homes, cars, businesses, and a bus on fire (several dozen people were left homeless)
*smashed windows
*clashed with police including throwing bricks, bottles, and petrol bombs
*blocked roads

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what this specific man’s claim of asylum was, but I do want to just say that there is a genocide going on in Sudan right now.

Really, really awful things are happening there that are very legit reasons for Sudanese to seek asylum.

Also want to point out that the UAE is funding the RSF who are committing the worst atrocities in Sudan. And the west, especially the US, turn a blind eye to the UAEs funding of these terrorists.

What does any of that have to do with Ireland?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what this specific man’s claim of asylum was, but I do want to just say that there is a genocide going on in Sudan right now.

Really, really awful things are happening there that are very legit reasons for Sudanese to seek asylum.

Also want to point out that the UAE is funding the RSF who are committing the worst atrocities in Sudan. And the west, especially the US, turn a blind eye to the UAEs funding of these terrorists.

What does any of that have to do with Ireland?

Perhaps because > atrocities may = > asylum seekers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what this specific man’s claim of asylum was, but I do want to just say that there is a genocide going on in Sudan right now.

Really, really awful things are happening there that are very legit reasons for Sudanese to seek asylum.

Also want to point out that the UAE is funding the RSF who are committing the worst atrocities in Sudan. And the west, especially the US, turn a blind eye to the UAEs funding of these terrorists.

What does any of that have to do with Ireland?

Perhaps because > atrocities may = > asylum seekers?

Perhaps they should stop in the first safe country? Why come to Ireland?

There are 50 million people in Sudan. The island of Ireland has 7 million. How many people should Ireland offer asylum to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what this specific man’s claim of asylum was, but I do want to just say that there is a genocide going on in Sudan right now.

Really, really awful things are happening there that are very legit reasons for Sudanese to seek asylum.

Also want to point out that the UAE is funding the RSF who are committing the worst atrocities in Sudan. And the west, especially the US, turn a blind eye to the UAEs funding of these terrorists.

What does any of that have to do with Ireland?

What does the fact that European resource exploitation of the Sudan for over 100 years now, including the deep involvement of EU companies (many of which are Ireland-based) in human rights violations in the Sudan for decades now, have to do with Ireland, an EU member state?

Oh, I don't know.

I'm really sorry you people can't just extract from and loot other countries and then turn your backs when the countries collapse. You should definitely burn down your cities. That's the answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what this specific man’s claim of asylum was, but I do want to just say that there is a genocide going on in Sudan right now.

Really, really awful things are happening there that are very legit reasons for Sudanese to seek asylum.

Also want to point out that the UAE is funding the RSF who are committing the worst atrocities in Sudan. And the west, especially the US, turn a blind eye to the UAEs funding of these terrorists.

What does any of that have to do with Ireland?

Perhaps because > atrocities may = > asylum seekers?

Perhaps they should stop in the first safe country? Why come to Ireland?

There are 50 million people in Sudan. The island of Ireland has 7 million. How many people should Ireland offer asylum to?

It would be a fun exercise to qualify how much Ireland has benefited from being a member of the EU and partaking in the contributions of EU-based companies to its economy while the EU and EU-based companies were looting the Sudan.

We could then divide that number by how much the upkeep of a migrant costs per year to come up with how many migrants Ireland must take in.

I don't think you'd like to answer though. Much better to whine and play victim while your lifestyle is subsidized by theft from the very people you complain about.

You want them to go back where they came from, but why don't Europeans and Americans ever go back where they come from and get their fingers out of everyone else's pies?

Exploit the world, import the world.

Invade the world, import the world.

Prop up the Sudan's Islamist governments for decades by buying their oil and all the many resources Sudan exports, import the Sudanese when the edifice collapses.

Enable the UAE's genocide in Sudan by doing business with the UAE and welcoming there investments in your country, import the Sudanese who are fleeing the genocide.

You get it now?

[Anonymous]

**fun exercise to quantify

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STOP calling these “riots.”

They are civil rights protests.

Plus, they have been mostly peaceful.

You're both either trolls or know nothing about the situation. They were NOT "mostly peaceful" OR "civil rights protests." And they were not organic but coordinated.

They involved male protestors, many masked, who:

*set homes, cars, businesses, and a bus on fire (several dozen people were left homeless)
*smashed windows
*clashed with police including throwing bricks, bottles, and petrol bombs
*blocked roads

Sounds like your typical BLM protest. Liberals should celebrating this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STOP calling these “riots.”

They are civil rights protests.

Plus, they have been mostly peaceful.

You're both either trolls or know nothing about the situation. They were NOT "mostly peaceful" OR "civil rights protests." And they were not organic but coordinated.

They involved male protestors, many masked, who:

*set homes, cars, businesses, and a bus on fire (several dozen people were left homeless)
*smashed windows
*clashed with police including throwing bricks, bottles, and petrol bombs
*blocked roads

Sounds like your typical BLM protest. Liberals should celebrating this.

Yep. Sounds exactly like what we saw (and continue to see) whenever the left "protests."