What the heck is going on in Belfast?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Half of the problems this world is facing are thanks to United Kingdom, their colonialism, poor, resource theft and map redrawing.

+1 and the other half is bad parenting. So much of what we are seeing with immigration is the long shadow of colonialism coupled with overpopulation in parts of the world with insufficient resources

None of this is reason to gouge an eye and try to behead someone

You obviously missed PP’s point if you think they were trying to excuse what happened

[Anonymous]

From a PP’s comment about the UK importing workers from Sudan, it’s clear some people just don’t understand the difference between refugees and asylum seekers and immigrants.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her home because of war, violence or persecution. An asylum seeker is someone who is seeking international protection from dangers in his or her home country, but whose claim for refugee status hasn’t been determined legally.

The UK isn’t out recruiting workers in Sudan. Most Sudanese are refugees or asylum seekers. They are not assessed on whether they speak English and have work qualifications.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??

Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.

Well, the Sudanese asylum seeker nearly beheaded the victim and gouged out his eyes. Not exactly the same as barroom brawl.

This is Belfast we’re talking about right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:STOP calling these “riots.”

They are civil rights protests.

Plus, they have been mostly peaceful.

You're both either trolls or know nothing about the situation. They were NOT "mostly peaceful" OR "civil rights protests." And they were not organic but coordinated.

They involved male protestors, many masked, who:

*set homes, cars, businesses, and a bus on fire (several dozen people were left homeless)
*smashed windows
*clashed with police including throwing bricks, bottles, and petrol bombs
*blocked roads

Sounds like your typical BLM protest. Liberals should celebrating this.

Yep. Sounds exactly like what we saw (and continue to see) whenever the left "protests."

Versus the right who just gun down tons of people or mow people over with cars. SDASDFU with your BS.

Are they mowing people down with firearms in Belfast?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??

Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.

Ah, so only liberals are allowed to riot. Good to know.

Families are being chased out of their homes, which are then being burned down. Keep on with your outrage over imagined hypocrisies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From a PP’s comment about the UK importing workers from Sudan, it’s clear some people just don’t understand the difference between refugees and asylum seekers and immigrants.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her home because of war, violence or persecution. An asylum seeker is someone who is seeking international protection from dangers in his or her home country, but whose claim for refugee status hasn’t been determined legally.

The UK isn’t out recruiting workers in Sudan. Most Sudanese are refugees or asylum seekers. They are not assessed on whether they speak English and have work qualifications.

Still no need for them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From a PP’s comment about the UK importing workers from Sudan, it’s clear some people just don’t understand the difference between refugees and asylum seekers and immigrants.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her home because of war, violence or persecution. An asylum seeker is someone who is seeking international protection from dangers in his or her home country, but whose claim for refugee status hasn’t been determined legally.

The UK isn’t out recruiting workers in Sudan. Most Sudanese are refugees or asylum seekers. They are not assessed on whether they speak English and have work qualifications.

Still no need for them

No refugees are taken to fill a need. They are taken for humanitarian reasons. It doesn’t mean they don’t contribute though. Sergey Brin, Madeleine Albright, and Gloria Estefan were refugees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From a PP’s comment about the UK importing workers from Sudan, it’s clear some people just don’t understand the difference between refugees and asylum seekers and immigrants.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her home because of war, violence or persecution. An asylum seeker is someone who is seeking international protection from dangers in his or her home country, but whose claim for refugee status hasn’t been determined legally.

The UK isn’t out recruiting workers in Sudan. Most Sudanese are refugees or asylum seekers. They are not assessed on whether they speak English and have work qualifications.

Still no need for them

No refugees are taken to fill a need. They are taken for humanitarian reasons. It doesn’t mean they don’t contribute though. Sergey Brin, Madeleine Albright, and Gloria Estefan were refugees.

Didn't Sergei Brin live in western europe as a "refugee" before coming to the USA?

Didn't Madeline Albright live in the united kingdom before requesting asylum in the USA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From a PP’s comment about the UK importing workers from Sudan, it’s clear some people just don’t understand the difference between refugees and asylum seekers and immigrants.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her home because of war, violence or persecution. An asylum seeker is someone who is seeking international protection from dangers in his or her home country, but whose claim for refugee status hasn’t been determined legally.

The UK isn’t out recruiting workers in Sudan. Most Sudanese are refugees or asylum seekers. They are not assessed on whether they speak English and have work qualifications.

Still no need for them

No refugees are taken to fill a need. They are taken for humanitarian reasons. It doesn’t mean they don’t contribute though. Sergey Brin, Madeleine Albright, and Gloria Estefan were refugees.

Didn't Sergei Brin live in western europe as a "refugee" before coming to the USA?

Didn't Madeline Albright live in the united kingdom before requesting asylum in the USA?

I don’t know. Most refugees travel through or live in other countries after fleeing their country of origin.

[Anonymous]

If anything, Ireland needs more Sudanese people, not less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If anything, Ireland needs more Sudanese people, not less.

Why?

Northern Ireland has an unemployment rate of 2.1%.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment/timeseries/zsfb/lms

Ireland is around 4.9%.
https://tradingeconomics.com/ireland/unemployment-rate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, Ireland needs more Sudanese people, not less.

Why?

Northern Ireland has an unemployment rate of 2.1%.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment/timeseries/zsfb/lms

Ireland is around 4.9%.
https://tradingeconomics.com/ireland/unemployment-rate

2.1% is about as low as unemployment rates ever get and even 4.9% is considered close to full employment. Unemployment close to 2% is too low in fact - at those kind of levels, shortages of labor reduce overall economic productivity and create inflationary pressures. This is exactly the scenario where migrant workers are economically beneficial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From a PP’s comment about the UK importing workers from Sudan, it’s clear some people just don’t understand the difference between refugees and asylum seekers and immigrants.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her home because of war, violence or persecution. An asylum seeker is someone who is seeking international protection from dangers in his or her home country, but whose claim for refugee status hasn’t been determined legally.

The UK isn’t out recruiting workers in Sudan. Most Sudanese are refugees or asylum seekers. They are not assessed on whether they speak English and have work qualifications.

Wouldn’t it make more sense to support them in Africa? Why have them come to one of the most expensive housing markets in the world?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From a PP’s comment about the UK importing workers from Sudan, it’s clear some people just don’t understand the difference between refugees and asylum seekers and immigrants.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her home because of war, violence or persecution. An asylum seeker is someone who is seeking international protection from dangers in his or her home country, but whose claim for refugee status hasn’t been determined legally.

The UK isn’t out recruiting workers in Sudan. Most Sudanese are refugees or asylum seekers. They are not assessed on whether they speak English and have work qualifications.

Wouldn’t it make more sense to support them in Africa? Why have them come to one of the most expensive housing markets in the world?

Yes. It makes a lot of sense to support them in Africa. In reality that is where most Sudanese refugees are. There are 1.3 million in Chad alone, which itself is a poor country. The UN supports the refugees and it is much cheaper but I suppose there are limits to how many can be absorbed. If people are approved as refugees by the UN, they can apply for resettlement in other countries. That can take decades if it happens at all. If things settle down then most will return home.

In reality, most refugees end up in neighbouring countries. For example, there are 5 million refugees in the Middle East including 3 million in Turkey. I think many people don’t realise this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From a PP’s comment about the UK importing workers from Sudan, it’s clear some people just don’t understand the difference between refugees and asylum seekers and immigrants.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her home because of war, violence or persecution. An asylum seeker is someone who is seeking international protection from dangers in his or her home country, but whose claim for refugee status hasn’t been determined legally.

The UK isn’t out recruiting workers in Sudan. Most Sudanese are refugees or asylum seekers. They are not assessed on whether they speak English and have work qualifications.

Wouldn’t it make more sense to support them in Africa? Why have them come to one of the most expensive housing markets in the world?

Yes. It makes a lot of sense to support them in Africa. In reality that is where most Sudanese refugees are. There are 1.3 million in Chad alone, which itself is a poor country. The UN supports the refugees and it is much cheaper but I suppose there are limits to how many can be absorbed. If people are approved as refugees by the UN, they can apply for resettlement in other countries. That can take decades if it happens at all. If things settle down then most will return home.

In reality, most refugees end up in neighbouring countries. For example, there are 5 million refugees in the Middle East including 3 million in Turkey. I think many people don’t realise this.

* 5 million Syrian refugees