Why hasn't William and Mary gotten rid of its DEI yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI is a broad, ambiguous term and concept, which may be manifested or implemented quite differently. W&M indicated it would comply with applicable laws, just as it did after the Supreme Court ruling in Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. President & Fellows of Harvard College.

https://wmit-news-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/25134636/2025.04.24_BOV_resHC3.pdf

Then why is OP so upset?

Because the found a webpage (with nothing they can point as DEI on it” entitled “Diversity & Inclusion”. And the Trump Admin believes we no longer have a 1A right to say those words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

+1. I actually feel bad for them that they got a MAGA Board. In 2025, it might protect them some. Long term, this will hurt their reputation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

+1. I actually feel bad for them that they got a MAGA Board. In 2025, it might protect them some. Long term, this will hurt their reputation.

You sound smart...NOT! Guessing you received a crushing summary rejection years ago that you still aren't over? Sounds about right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

That is what got UVA's first president cancelled and the main library renamed.

What?

Alderman was a eugenicist.

Alderman expressed his views on racial hierarchy strongly, frequently and at length. A particularly instructive example, just to give a taste of his rhetoric, is a speech he delivered to a near-capacity Carnegie Hall audience in 1908, several years into his UVA presidency. He called denying African Americans the right to vote “the chiefest political constructive act of Southern genius” and defended segregation as “a far-sighted politics of justice, both to the negro as a race, and to the higher groups that inhabit this nation and to civilization at large.”

(https://uvamagazine.org/articles/renovating_the_name_too)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What part do you want to get rid of?
Diversity?
Equity ?
Inclusion?

Also, what are you talking about?

Wow. Didn't know this would strike such a cord. I was just curious, I'm not against DEI at all. I think diversity has been proven to be beneficial for institutions of all sorts and that DEI is a crucial part of ensuring diversity. I was just wondering why it is the case that other Virginia universities have gotten rid of their DEI programs while William and Mary hasn't.

You started a very trollish and argumentative way. It seemed like you were a trump troll who approves of discrimination

DP. DEI is the epitome of discrimination. Everyone should be included, regardless of their color of their skin.

What’s an example of how diversity and inclusion at W&M was discriminatory? Who was excluded through W&M’s inclusivity efforts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What part do you want to get rid of?
Diversity?
Equity ?
Inclusion?

Also, what are you talking about?

Wow. Didn't know this would strike such a cord. I was just curious, I'm not against DEI at all. I think diversity has been proven to be beneficial for institutions of all sorts and that DEI is a crucial part of ensuring diversity. I was just wondering why it is the case that other Virginia universities have gotten rid of their DEI programs while William and Mary hasn't.

You started a very trollish and argumentative way. It seemed like you were a trump troll who approves of discrimination

DP. DEI is the epitome of discrimination. Everyone should be included, regardless of their color of their skin.

DEI is, quite literally, inclusion of all. That's the "I" in DEI. It does not mean include at the expense of someone else. It is not quotas. It's not individual admission or hiring decisions. It's making sure people are trained, and policies promote, outreach to everyone and inclusive. It's removing artificial barriers. It's teaching people to recognize biases.

If you're going to spew dumb Shht like in your post, at least make an attempt to be informed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

UVA has a BOV that is more aligned with Youngkin and an administration that is a typical left of center university administration. They are far apart and there is tension. W&M's BOV and administration are not as far apart. The result in a significant difference in messages, but I don't think the end result is that different.

The UVA BOV resolution instructs the university to “transfer permissible programs to a new organizational home” and stipulates that “legally permissible” research and activities proceed as normal and orders the President to give an update in 30 days. The W&M BOV resolution requires to the president to "continue to review guidance from the U.S. Department of Education, the U.S. Attorney General, the Virginia Attorney General, and other relevant federal and state agencies, and ensure full compliance with applicable laws." The president must report to the BOV executive committee at its next meeting.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

+1. I actually feel bad for them that they got a MAGA Board. In 2025, it might protect them some. Long term, this will hurt their reputation.

You sound smart...NOT! Guessing you received a crushing summary rejection years ago that you still aren't over? Sounds about right.

This is incorrect. In fact, I was accepted OOS for law school in 2006. Which even then was a heavy lift.

I maintain— a MAGA BOV isn’t great for UVA long term. I’m sorry that upsets you. But ask yourself— why are you being really nasty to someone pointing out something pretty obvious, rather than refuting the premise. If the current BOV isn’t problematic, say why. Otherwise, cut it out with the nasty personal attacks. They don’t help your case.

No, you weren't. Stop lying. No BOV is going to knock UVA out of the #1 spot, something you're desperate to see happen. Get out of other schools' businesses and focus on your own. It's not your place and you look stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

DP. Youngkin actually removed the most disruptive conservative board member. If there is some movement to control administrative growth at UVA, something positive could come out of the board changes.

Not sure how this got away from a discussion of W&M.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Irrational, hostile MAGAs sure love UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

That is what got UVA's first president cancelled and the main library renamed.

What?

Alderman was a eugenicist.

Alderman expressed his views on racial hierarchy strongly, frequently and at length. A particularly instructive example, just to give a taste of his rhetoric, is a speech he delivered to a near-capacity Carnegie Hall audience in 1908, several years into his UVA presidency. He called denying African Americans the right to vote “the chiefest political constructive act of Southern genius” and defended segregation as “a far-sighted politics of justice, both to the negro as a race, and to the higher groups that inhabit this nation and to civilization at large.”

(https://uvamagazine.org/articles/renovating_the_name_too)

How dare you try to smear the name of a university (from which you were summarily rejected) out of disgusting ignorance and jealousy? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Is this level of outrage and anger management issues doesn’t speak well of you or UVA.

+1

PP is demonstrating why many top students don’t even look at UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

There is no better school, LIAR. No better law school or undergrad, PERIOD. And yes, you don't have ill will per se, more of a sickening and embarrassing insatiable jealousy that permeates every word you type. It's sickening and you need serious help.

Seek help. (Duke was better, especially since I got a 1/2 tuition scholarship).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What part do you want to get rid of?
Diversity?
Equity ?
Inclusion?

Also, what are you talking about?

Wow. Didn't know this would strike such a cord. I was just curious, I'm not against DEI at all. I think diversity has been proven to be beneficial for institutions of all sorts and that DEI is a crucial part of ensuring diversity. I was just wondering why it is the case that other Virginia universities have gotten rid of their DEI programs while William and Mary hasn't.

You started a very trollish and argumentative way. It seemed like you were a trump troll who approves of discrimination

DP. DEI is the epitome of discrimination. Everyone should be included, regardless of their color of their skin.

What’s an example of how diversity and inclusion at W&M was discriminatory? Who was excluded through W&M’s inclusivity efforts?

Back to the topic at hand. Can anyone share a problematic DEI program or initiative from W&M?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA has a board that is predominantly composed of Youngkin appointees. The most ardent wanted UVA to remove any reference to DEI and dissolve the DEI office without completing the UVA administration's analysis of what activities violated laws and Federal directives, if any. VT and JMU appear to have followed suit. It should be noted, however, that Youngkin asked the most vocal anti-DEI board member, Bert Ellis, to resign, presumably because he was being too disruptive to UVA.

In some ways, the UVA board action may be analogous to the Department of Defense removing reference to the WW2 bomber "Enola Gay" because it included the word "Gay".

W&M appears to be looking more specifically at ensuring programs or policies are in compliance with law.

UVA has an unfortunate MAGA infestation.

Why are you trying to slander UVA? Did you not get in? Of course you didn't. Because UVA doesn't let in IDIOTS. Get off of your phone and crack open a damn book. Brainless weirdo UVA rejects are disgusting and you should consider sterilization.

My kid did get in. Fact remains that more than any other college, Youngkin has been replacing liberal and moderate BOV members with MAGA. It’s not UVA’s fault. But, it’s hard to see this as good for UVA, long term.

Neither you nor your faulty offspring were offered spots at UVA. You're mad, and I wish I could say that I get it, but since I've never had the experience of being relegated by UVA's admission committee to lesser schools than UVA, I can't honestly say that I do. I suggest you seek therapy for your pathological lying and stupidity.

Again, I got in for law school and went to a better school.

One of my kids got in and went to a better school (for them at least). One didn’t apply.

No ill will towards UVA.

So stop with the nasty personal attacks. Am I incorrect that the Youngkin MAGA BOV appointments are a long term problem? If not why?

DP. Youngkin actually removed the most disruptive conservative board member. If there is some movement to control administrative growth at UVA, something positive could come out of the board changes.

Not sure how this got away from a discussion of W&M.

A UVa booster went insane. In real time. While we watched.